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Create Fertility - Experiences (Part 2)

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Sunflower360 · 23/11/2023 21:10

Hi 👋

A thread for anyone who wants to discuss their Create Fertility experiences.

I'm 38, currently in a 3 cycle Natural Modfied ICSI package and nearing transfer stage.

Tagging as follows from previous chat, please tag any others I may have forgot. New joiners to the thread welcome to share your stories/journey!

@gemso2020
@Doxy21
@VSRCM
@GirlAgirlBboyC
@HopefulElle
@Maddie23
@Jennaqua

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alittlebitsocial · 15/02/2024 20:38

Hi ladies,

I've been lurking for a couple of weeks. We've had quite the journey; we started TTC seven years ago when I was 34. There were no issues with me, just the male factor. Dr's said you're young, keep trying, and it will happen. Then COVID happened, and I really didn't want to start treatment then.

So now, I'm 41, and it's our last shot. In January 2024, we went to a clinic and ran the tests. It came back with the same malefactor, if not worse, and my AMH was low at 2.8 Pmol/ml. The scan showed follicles and a healthy uterus, but only three that he could see as my fourth ovary was hiding, and he basically told us. Don't bother, adopt or donor eggs. Oh, and I'm months away from menopause. An extremely negative consultation that left us slightly numb as we were told we had less than a 5% chance at conception.

Never one to give up, I approached Create in February 2024 for a second opinion because I wanted fewer drugs and not to overdose my body on hormones. I had my baseline scan, and they found seven follicles on the left ovary and two on the right; she struggled to gain access again so that it could have been a third follicle, but she wasn't sure. But I definitely felt more positive, and this morning, we had our planning consultation.

So, the main thing to come out of the consultation is that my BMI needs to come down from 35 to 32, ideally 30, but he understands that it may take too long, so he has given me until May to lose it. I knew this was likely. He's also suggested my husband does a sperm freeze in case it's bad on the day. He also admitted that if we'd come to him five years ago, he would likely have told us to go away and keep trying so we'd still be here. He also implied that if I lost weight, we'd likely conceived naturally, but my BMI was under 30 when we started this journey, so I highly doubt it at this point. My husband's sperm is just a mixture of chaos.

We received the treatment plan, and after, I peeled myself from the ceiling at the cost. We did say a quote for a single cycle, but he then said I'd suggest the three cycles, so he quoted for that. I didn't feel it was very tailored to us; it just felt extremely generic. I was surprised he offered mild IVF; given my low AMH, I was expecting modified, but perhaps my follicle count showed more positive outcomes.

I guess my first question is, has anyone just done a one-cycle collection and gone for it? Also, has anyone else frozen their sperm for later? I know there are some pretty similar views on communication, which is always a worry. We're based out of the Southampton branch and Wimbledon. Anyone else?

Sunflower360 · 15/02/2024 22:29

@VenusStarr just waiting for my AF now, good to hear you've started. Hope you feel a bit better about things, maybe because you are embryo banking and its part way through that is perhaps causing you to feel numb/neutral?

@alittlebitsocial I think Create tend to prefer multi cycle when AMH is low to embryo bank, suppose it can perhaps improve chances/stats for transfer stages as they can pick one to transfer? I too had mild IVF on my last egg collection with a low AMH - if you have the AFC for it it can be worth doing perhaps. Any follicle numbers above 4 can be good I think

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VenusStarr · 16/02/2024 08:42

Thanks @Sunflower360 had a horrendous night, never usually get period pains but it woke me up about 1am. Had to get a heat pad and paracetamol and did manage to eventually drop off again. I think its the estrogen priming.
Am booked in for my cd6 scan on Wednesday. Doubled checked who I'm booked with after the cock up last time.
How are you?

@alittlebitsocial welcome. I'm a bit younger than you but am doing banking. My amh is 9 and afc was 9. My first cycle of the 3 didn't go well though, out of 11 follicles we only got 4 eggs, 3 fertilised but no blastocysts. Its really hard to predict how things will go. My first ever cycle I got 7 eggs, 3 fertilised and 3 top quality blastocysts which resulted in 2 pregnancies (but miscarried).

VenusStarr · 16/02/2024 08:45

@Jennaqua I've been pregnant 6 times, 4 unassisted, 2 ivf.
I'm sorry you've had so many delays. Ivf is stressful in itself but to have miscommunication and not feeling supported by the clinic, it can feel even harder. Has there been any progress for you? X

Plantymcplant · 16/02/2024 09:44

@alittlebitsocial hi! We went for one cycle of mild on their suggestion. 8 eggs 6 fertilised and 2 blasts. The first failed and waiting to transfer the second. Tbh I don't know if I would change and done 3 cycles in one go. I guess I will have a better opinion after the results of this second transfer. I think you save money if you book 3 in one go so if we end up needing 3 cycles we will have lost money

Sunflower360 · 16/02/2024 10:17

@VenusStarr sorry that your getting such pains, is it worth mentioning to the clinic? Are you booked in with the Dr for your scan? Hope it goes ok.

I'm just waiting on AF then need to see how my lining gets on, not done a FET before or monitored my natural cycle through scansso not sure what to expect. My last 2 ovulations have been later than usual so my cycle has been a few days longer so I'm not looking forward to the uncertainty with it being a natural FET, but will see how it goes. Start my Prednisolone on CD 2 then scan I'll book in for CD 10 hopefully, then will monitor to see when/if can transfer in March. Progesterone will start surge/trigger day. Is the transfer meant to be 5 or 6 days after surge/trigger day?

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VenusStarr · 16/02/2024 11:39

@Sunflower360 I did a natural modified with trigger FET and I triggered on the Saturday and transferred the following Saturday. So think I started progesterone on the Monday. In a medicated FET it's 5 days of progesterone and transfer day 6.

My period is heavier than usual as well. Pains have eased a lot, it was just very unusual for me to be woken up by it and need pain relief. It actually reminded me of the pains I had with my first loss, like contractions.

I've got a day off today, so had my hair cut and going for a walk now.

How are you monitoring your ovulation, or will you just see what the clinic say at your scan?

Sunflower360 · 16/02/2024 11:43

@VenusStarr thanks that is really helpful, I'm hoping it lands on a Saturday but appreciate it is hard to plan. I'll monitor ovulation with the Clear Blue monitor as I usually get 1 x static smiley and then a peak the day after when I surge so hopefully that will catch it but they did say they could trigger earlier if follicle size and lining was where it should be

Good that you've got a day off to rest today, as you say perhaps it was the estrogen that caused the cramps.

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JunieS · 18/02/2024 17:19

Hello lovely ladies :)

I've been reading this thread non stop for hours, my eyes are going square and my brain exploded 2 pages ago I think.. xD Thank you so much for all the information and the support you're sharing with everyone else.

I just had baseline scan and first consultation with Create Wimbledon and honestly, I feel I'm even less ready now than before. As green as they come, or even greener. In my case, and after losing my baby 2 years ago at 22w (super easy and natural pregnancy at 42 until infection) I could not face the idea of IVF...until now, when it's probably too late. Perhaps this is all I need, some closure and the feeling that I did all I could. The what ifs are the worst I had to deal with, and still do, after I lost my little girl.

There so much to know, so much I don't know that I should be asking, so your posts are helping a lot, and I wanted to thank you all and apologise in advance if I sometimes ask dumb questions about processes you're familiar with by now.
Thanks so much!
Junie

Doxy21 · 18/02/2024 20:32

So sorry to hear about your loss @JunieS

good luck on this journey, I hope you get what you need and do let us know if we can help at all!

Sunflower360 · 18/02/2024 20:37

@JunieS Hi 👋 Really sorry about your loss. No problem at all about asking questions, please ask as many questions as you like as this journey is full of curve balls.

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VenusStarr · 19/02/2024 09:16

Hi @JunieS I am so worry to hear about your little girl 🩷 I'm sending you lots of love.
Please do ask questions, I'm sure one of us will have some knowledge or experience, but sometimes, it's just good to have a space to share. I can definitely relate to your feeling of trying it to be able to move on. This is where I am at. It's hard because I think my dh is ready to stop now, so it is tough. I'm looking forward to not having to do this, even if it ends up with us not having a baby.

I'm on my second cycle of 3 and today is day 3 of stims and I don't feel ready, but I'm doing it anyway. Feel like I'm getting twinges already. I had a dream on the weekend that I went for my cd6 scan and had 2 follicles of 22mm and 23mm 🙃

How are you @Sunflower360 did af arrive yet?

How are you @Doxy21 ?

Lots of love to all x

Sunflower360 · 19/02/2024 09:51

Thanks @VenusStarr AF arrived yesterday so scan is booked for a week Tuesday, started Prednisolone today too. Hope you're ok

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muddlingthrou · 19/02/2024 11:00

Hi all, hoping I can join this thread if that's OK. I'm booked in for a frozen embryo transfer at Create Wimbledon tomorrow. I have a nearly two year old from a successful 3-cycle package with the same clinic in 2021. My views on Create are that they are great on the medical side, reidiculously disorganised on the admin side. But I trust the embryology team, which to me is the most important factor.

Wishing everyone luck with their treatments x

Doxy21 · 19/02/2024 14:20

@VenusStarr @JunieS I’m now on my closure journey - 3 years, 1 iui, 2 clinics, 5 collections and 3 transfers so far. This will be my last transfer before I call it a day. AF started today so tomorrow I will start meds in prep for a double transfer.

Doxy21 · 19/02/2024 14:21

I’m so glad there’s someone who has had success @muddlingthrou!

VenusStarr · 19/02/2024 17:03

❤️ @Doxy21 thinking of you. Are you doing a medicated FET? Are you doing a day 3 or day 5 transfer?
I hope you're OK x

Jennaqua · 19/02/2024 17:25

@JunieS , @Doxy21 ,@VenusStarr @Sunflower360 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜Xoxo🥰😍You've all got this!!!
And thank you @muddlingthrou for sharing your journey with us.
We appreciate you, welcome to the team.

Jennaqua · 19/02/2024 17:29

For me😭polyps has been sighted🤦‍♂️🤔
I will have to take it out, although it was triggered by the ivf meds, I didn't have polyps before I started cetrotide (by the records).
Still waiting for them to give me the quote and a possible scheduled date for the surgery.
Don't know what to expect t as this point.
Really want to get it right and clear my uterus😥

Doxy21 · 19/02/2024 17:50

@VenusStarr day 5 - but one embryo is day 3 so hopefully it gets to day 5 like the other one!

VenusStarr · 19/02/2024 17:57

@Doxy21 🙏 fingers crossed!

@Jennaqua oh no! That's rubbish, I'm sorry. It's the same as @Sunflower360 😔 just more money and delays. Hope you get booked in soon x

jolly86 · 19/02/2024 17:58

@VenusStarr @Sunflower360 @Doxy21 good luck with your cycles xx

VenusStarr · 19/02/2024 18:08

Thank you @jolly86 how are you? X

jolly86 · 19/02/2024 18:13

@VenusStarr thanks I am ok! Haven't been thinking of IVF too much but will not wait too long.

alittlebitsocial · 19/02/2024 20:26

@Plantymcplant @VenusStarr@Sunflower360
Thank you, ladies, and I am sorry for everyone's losses and struggles. It's such an emotional time. With so much to consider and think about.