IVF/FET FEB MARCH No 3 2022

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New thread created from previous

@hopeful199

Just marking my place on the new thread!

Hope everyone’s cycles are going well….. I need to read back and catch up.

Took a break from the threads after a BFN….. now waiting and prepping for an FET…… just feels like the gap takes forever!!!! 😫

@Hopeful199 Welcome back :)

I was in the same position as you before christmas ! I felt like I waited quite some time before my FET and now it's here! Hopefully not much longer for you ! :)

That sounds like really good news @Mochii. Got my fingers crossed crossed for Friday.
@WhiteLily86 I was listening to a podcast the other day and the doctor said a very high percentage of women have some bleeding in the first trimester. Don't give yet!
@Bluehawaii29 that's really rubbish. I didn't have my husband there for the second or third transfers. Have they given you a reason?

@IVFGotThis05 thanks!

When do you transfer? Really hope this is the one for you! You have to wait a full dont you so I will most likely be April now….. feels like forever

Just need to dust myself off. It all felt good. I felt calm, process had gone well (all things considering) and I really thought it had worked.

I’m nearing 40 so can hear time ticking….. thankfully there are a couple more in the freezer for fingers crossed for next time.

Have you done anything different to prepare this time? Is this your second transfer?

@Bluehawaii29 I have my husband around for the first week to 'look after' me but not the second week. I'm trying to get through all my comedy dvds, going to walks into town and not taking baths.
Like you, I'm not testing until the OTD which is March 4th, it's been ok not to think about it much tbh. I reckon mine will be a slow implanter as it was a grade 2 for development so hgg won't show up until later this week anyway. I e had chemicals before and honestly the disappointment is horrendous when it fades. I'd rather get an outright negative and move on.

I'm 5dp5dt and apart from cramping the first couple of days feel absolutely normal. Not even a twinge 😶 Anyone else on Inhixa? It stings so bad when I inject it. Any tips?

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@Mochii @tulipsandsnow that's made me feel so much better, thank you. I think the fact that I've had a stressful day with double the patients, then googling it and reading that it says to rest and avoid any exercise for the first two days, just absolutely sent me over the edge. I'm feeling super emotional today I think. Thank you for the reassurance 💐

@Mochii that's such great news, very happy for you. It sounds like it's all heading in the right direction 🤞🏼

@IVFGotThis05 good news about your lining. Wishing you all the best for Monday x

Clinic called. Beta is 8, so 99.9% I am not pregnant. It is probably the residue from the hCG booster. They want me to give blood on Thursday again just to make sure. If it doesn't double up then there is no chance for me to be pregnant. I am so devastated. It was a good quality expanded blastocyst. My hormone levels were really good. I took Prolutex, Cyclogest, Omegaven, Clexane, hCG booster, basically all the "good stuff". I really don't know what else I can do... I have no enthusiasm or hope for the next FET. This weekend we went to a furniture store to look at baby furnitures just to get some positive vibes. Looking back, I feel like a fool. It is never gonna happen for us.

@IVFGotThis05 heyy wow snap with the lining thickness, mine was 7.6mm yesterday but my clinic doesn’t give go ahead for transfer until it’s at least 8mm hence why have to scan again on Friday. Transfer will then be 5 days later from everything I’ve been told so that means weds next week! Doesn’t seem real yet after all this waiting that’s it’s one week away from tomorrow. Feeling nervous and excited at the same time. I just hope I don’t lose any embryos in the thawing process so that I don’t feel too much pressure that we have less left for next time. @xreadytoglow glad you’re feeling better, just watch something funny today and try to take your mind off things. I find I’m good at advising others but never take my own advice! @LBalf that’s good you have your husband the first week. Mine is off till Thursday next week but I figured it’s better he keeps me company before the transfer too so we are going to try and do some fun stuff in our leave together and go to a nice restaurant or two as Im probably going to spend the rest of it at home mainly. He only works away on a Tuesday so that will give me nearly a week before I’m home alone for the day. Just hope time goes faster than last time because that was a horrible time. I never watched teen moms in my life and was spending my time watching that back to back watching all these 16-18 yr olds having baby after baby and with different dads too. Just made me more upset how easy it is for them to pop them out.

@Cayandsimit oh no I just seen your message. I’m so sorry this is what they’ve said. It’s so hard to hold on to hope with this whole process but please don’t give up. The fact it’s even 8 means something must have happened. Mine was

@womaninkent just scrolled up a bit further and seen your message too they just been saying this whole time because of covid he can come with you to the transfer room. The last one we did was first week of December and I was totally alone for that too. Just a tonne of staff in the room all chatting around me and I had legs up in stirrups and then this male dr was like don’t be so tense, you’re about to accept your embryo, try and relax. Not so easy when a catheter has just been passed through your cervix! Sometimes would be great if men knew what it felt like hoenstly

I had my initial consultation at a new clinic today. For my last cycle I used Gonal F but the new consultant is suggesting Menopur. Does anyone have experience of both and had more success with one than the other?x

@Cayandsimit hold on until Thursday... my BFN Beta was "< 2" Like someone said, 8 means something happened, and it can still double, maybe a late implant?

And you're not a fool for looking at baby furniture!!! Or if you are I'm sure it makes us all fools 😉 For the last 2 years ive pretty much only bought clothes that are non-maternity, but could fit a bump... poor DH despairs of my "sacks" 😂

I reckon fools end up with the best researched, most fabulous nurseries... (eventually!!)

Thanks @womaninkent

Unfortunately I think I am out, the bleeding has got heavier throughout the day and definitely isn't an IB 😭

Will call the clinic tomorrow and see what they want me to do. Just so confused by the positive test result. Will do one again tomorrow just to see if I can understand it.

All the more confusing as we have secondary infertility - no rhyme or reason after naturally conceiving our son. So we know sperm is good and have great gradings on embies.

Not sure if this is more like a chemical pregnancy? Who knows, I will continue to take drugs until I speak to them.

@WhiteLily86 I’m sorry to hear the bleeding has got heavier, wait to see what your clinic says. Regarding the positive pregnancy test this morning do you know how long it was before you checked it because I remember having a second line once but it was an evap line which happened because I checked it a lot later than 10-15min

@bluehawaii29 @luckyNovember thank you for your kind words. I don't think there is any hope at this point since I am 13dp5dt. Re-testing will only confirm the result. We are enjoying a few glasses of wine, steaks, pizzas and fries.
We cried it out. I always have plan A, B, C...Z. Our next step will be getting a consultation appointment for adoption and getting ready for the next FET around April. Meanwhile, I will start enjoying my life again. I feel like I was buried alive in the last two years. I will try not to make ICSI center of my life again.
I wish everyone good luck in this process and smooth pregnancy to all who are already pregnant 💐❤️

@Cayandsimit aww you sound a such a lovely person and I wish you all the best on your journey. You will be a great mum and it will happen one way or another, don’t lose hope
when you said ICSI centre of your life can I ask what your previous attempts were like with it? We also have used ICSI on all the eggs in our fresh cycle due to MFI

@Bluehawaii29 our initial problem was also MF. Count 200 million, good motility but 1-2% morphology. But also even the good sperms we dying within 24 hours. So probably he has some DNA damage as well. He never smoked or used drugs and has a healthy weight btw.

In our first attempt we collected (on 150 IU Pergoveris for 10 days) 11 eggs, 9 were mature, 4 were fertilized. We did two 3day transfers with double embryos, both failed.
I did a super extensive coagulation test and uterine biopsy in between. Increased PAI-1 activity, MTHFR heterozygous gene and slightly elevated NK were found. So, I got Omegaven and Clexane prescribed.
In the 2nd round I did 200 IU Pergoveris for 9 days, 14 eggs collected, 10 were mature and they had good size (mostly 17-20 mm), 7 fertilized. We had to freeze 2 on the first day because German Embryo Protection Law does not allow us to put more than 5 fertilized eggs into long culture. So, we tried the long culture with only 5 fertilized eggs and got 3 blastocysts (1 expanded on the day5, one blastocyst on the day5 and another blastocyst on the day6), 1 morula and one 8 cell which didn't develop any further. I had to transfer the morula in Dec because I had moderate OHSS. If I have chosen not to transfer, I had to pay the full price because of stupid health insurance 🙄 it failed obviously... We had two add-ons (PICSI & Calcium ionophore treatment) in the second round which I believe increased the fertilization rate.
We transferred the expanded embryo this round and it didn't stick. Maybe it was genetically abnormal or maybe there is something wrong with my uterus...

To summarize, I think ICSI is a great thing overall and it is our only hope if we want to have biological children. Even though my consultant thinks that our main problem is my husband's sperm, I still think it is my uterus... We had good blastocysts in the 2nd round afterall.

I hope you will get pregnant this round and never have to go through this again. I keep everything crossed for you ❤️🤞

@Cayandsimit wow that’s such a journey for you. Yeah I know what you mean about the doubt it causes when it fails regarding whether it is your uterus or not. We also initially had MFI but then they found a polyp which was removed and found to have an abnormality on biopsy so I had to use a coil for a few months and then rebiopsy of rest of limiting was done in September which came back normal. Was only after that we were allowed to do IVF. We knew going in to it that it would have to be ICSI but managed to achieve good fertilisation rates on our first round with 7/8 fertilised and 5 good quality blastocysts (5AA transferred and 4 frozen). After failing on such a ‘perfect’ embryo the negative voice in my head started wondering whether it was anything to do with my lining that implantation didn’t happen. So this time we are doing an add on with embryo glue and the consultant said we can go for a double transfer of 5 day blastocysts even though I’m still 34 going on to 35 and normally HFEA says 3 rounds at least for under 38 before double transfer. She said one failed implantation should be enough justification to try two. We are hoping that at least one sticks but if it’s twins then we will find a way to cope I’m sure. Trying not to think that far at the moment although it’s always difficult to not consider that outcome. It’s scary thinking of it doesn’t work whether it’s something wrong with me or whether it was just unlucky embryos. This process is so difficult and I totally understand what you mean by not feeling positive about the next FET. All the uncertainty takes away the excitement of this process. Making a life is so special so we need to give our bodies more credit and just believe in ourselves that we can do this x

@bluehawaii29 Sounds like you have been through a lot also. If MF wasn't enough, you had also polyps and abnormalities in the uterus.
What you said is about the embryo quality is exactly what I think right now. If such a "perfect" embryo fails, there is no way the others can stick. But of course this is not true... I received the bad news just few hours ago. I am in such a bad mood right now, of course I cannot think anything positive. Unless you get genetic testing done, you never know which Embryo is normal. Anyone can stick and it is really pure luck in the end.
Everyone's situation is different also. You had better fertilization rate which indicates that your MF is not so severe. I think you made a good decision about transferring two embryos. I am 35 and I will also do a double transfer in the next FET. I wish you best of luck 🤞 I sincerely hope that you will share the good news with us in a couple of weeks 💕

@Cayandsimit thank you, yeah I really hope I can bring some good news to the table ahead of your next round 🤞 the polyp was thought to occur due to a clomid round I had for IUI so I didn’t do that again after the removal, we went straight for ivf and the drugs seem to be safe for me so far, there’s been no further abnormal scans touch wood so just got to stay positive that it was due to the embryo on that first round and we hopefully have some normal ones left in the bunch somewhere 🙏🏽 I hope you feel better soon and keep in touch how it all goes ❤️Xx

I've just had some light bleeding 😪 panicking slightly. I'm 7dp5dt today, don't what to think of it as don't know whether it's good or bad

OTD for me and BFN. Sixth transfer and it looks like this is not going to happen for me.

Has anyone expreinced blood that is maroon but nearly purple??

@lucymills1234 and @Cayandsimit I'm so sorry to hear this. It's such a tough journey. Xx