IVF/FET Jan/Feb 2022

[Juno231]

I know I'm a bit early but knowing that I get to start in January I think I'll go mad just twiddling my thumbs until then.

With Christmas clinic closures I think there's a fair few of us around waiting for Jan to start, so hopefully we can gather here for support in the mean time?

About me - 33 years old (although I turn 34 in Jan!), TTC#1 for two years with unexplained infertility. Am due to start my first ever round of IVF in January (NHS). I've been told I'll do short protocol and in terms of next steps I've got a trial embryo transfer in two weeks' time, and both OH and I have to get blood tests done in Dec. I can order my meds from the pharmacy in Dec as well so got that to look forward to ha.

I'm currently predicted to start my cycle on the 31st of Dec which would mean having to wait a whole cycle due to the new year bank holiday getting in the way. My cycle can vary by a few days though so I'm really hoping CD1 actually comes a day or two later!

@PcosSOS @Bluehawaii29 My clinic we’re happy to transfer 2 and that was first NHS round. They said is was due to my age, I’m 36. Unfortunately, we only got 1 egg and that was our only NHS round.

I also had embryo glue.

@Jennie154 that’s interesting they were willing. I’m 38 going on 39, I don’t know what my clinic will say but I will assume no. I know they’re more lenient over 40 usually. Obviously depends on if we can make any viable embryos.

I transferred 2 in October neither stuck . I think they advised us too because I'm 40 and they were 3BB . And at that point we only thought we were having 1 round nhs so they wouldn't have known if we were going again
I'd definitely take 2 again even if they were graded 5's . Maybe thats wishful thinking. 🤷

Thinking way into future... What's everyone's thoughts on Embryo glue our clinic hasn't recommended it, as they say not enough accurate evidence either way and advised us at time to tick no to it on forms. 🤷‍♀️

Now thinking if we get to Tuesday Transfer should I ask for it? 🙈

@Frenchiepupmama my NHS clinic do it as standard as they say it improves results.

@Jennie154 thanks il speak to my private clinic Monday about it as I did think was odd, they say they don't charge extra for it but don't automatically suggest having it.

Has been on my mind. Will see what they say.

Had a look and found one of the documents they sent us and this is listed as 'amber'
EmbryoGlue (AMBER):
Pros: Hyaluranon is naturally present in the human body including follicles, tubes and the cavity of
the womb. It is thought to help embryo implantation.
Cons: Research on embryo glue has been contradictory and in our experience we have not seen
any benefit with Embryoglue. There is an increased risk of twin pregnancies in some studies and a
trend towards a reduced birth weight in a recent retrospective study.
Our verdict: Whilst there is no additional cost to using it, we do not recommend using Embryoglue
at our clinic because of the above potential downsides. 🤷‍♀️

That's interesting @Frenchiepupmama I read another study that says it increases live birth rate by 10%. I wonder if the trend to do with lower birth rate is tied in with increase of multiples.

It's so hard to know what to do isn't it? I think I'm just going to go with whatever my clinic advises on the next round but push to have 2 put back in and see what happens. I think the hardest part about all this is that it's mainly down to luck and genetics and there's nothing really you can do about either.

In a twist I have had really really light pink spotting all day today and my ever hopeful brain has been torturing me that it's implantation. At 9dp5dt that is basically impossible though right? Especially as it was a hatching blast they put back. I think rationally I know it's probably the progesterone only just holding back my normal period.

That's really interesting-we used embryo glue on the successful round, but my son was quite low birth weight even factoring in he was 3 weeks early.

@PcosSOS il keep everything crossed that it is implantation 🤞 you never know how all this works for the individual. Everyones different and i hope so much for u that it is. 🤞✨

Il go with the clinic advice this time if we get to blastocyst stage on Tues and if doesn't happen this round then il definitely asked for it the next round. We have three attempts with the package we could afford thru Acces Fertility. 🤞

FFS!!! Just had a call from my Clinic asking why I haven’t been in for my blood test today…… the date they gave me was the 5th of feb. I did query why it was 22 days after EC! Blood test on Monday now

@Jennie154 so frustrating! Also typical that it’s Sunday tomorrow and you have to wait another day 😩 can you go in first thing Monday?

@Jennie154 awww no! That's beyond frustrating now having to wait til next week.

@Mochii I can go at 7:30. I know it will be negative anyway as I’ve tested every day since transfer and all negative.

Hey everyone, I’d like to join in with this chat please 😊 just had prostap last week to begin down reg.
This is my 2nd round, first round in Nov was a short protocol, where we got 7 eggs, only 3 mature, all 3 fertilised but none made it to blast.

They have decided to change the approach this time with a long protocol, really hoping it makes a difference!
Good luck to you all wherever you are in your journey x

@Jennie154 I'm so sorry you're testing negative. Good luck for the bloods anyway.

I'm having a chemical as I knew I was. Had bloods yesterday and have to go back on Monday to check the numbers are coming down. This is a euploid embryo so not really sure what to do next. We've done every test, every treatment. If this doesn't work, what will?

@Hopewishprayer welcome and sorry about your previous cycle. This process can be heartbreaking but fingers crossed that the long protocol does the trick for you x

All the best @Hopewishprayer

Really sorry to read through today on all the disappointment people have been having. @PcosSOS @Jennie154 @Dobcaty stay strong x

To those worried about pain during embryo transfer, in my first cycle at egg collection my surgeon advised I was sedated for transfer as well. Whilst it's costing £300 it's taken away the anxiety for me.

I had a good meeting wi my clinic last week after our 2nd cycle failure. They described it as a rogue cycle after my first (short) cycle yielded nine eggs and two blasts and this (long) cycle four eggs and no mature!

We've decided to go back to the short protocol with Meriofert but up the dose from 300>375 for my third cycle and we start in two weeks' time.

Has anyone else gone back to short after trying long?

@Janefx40 so sorry to hear this. It's such a heartbreaking process-everything can go 'right' and yet it still doesn't always work.
@MollyVanDer glad you had a positive meeting with the clinic.
@Hopewishprayer welcome

Anyone got any experience of covid impacting treatment?

Feeling so sad and frustrated today as my husband and son have tested positive on LFT this morning. I have been having aches and sore throat this week and also been testing…. So far I’m negative but looks like that may change quite shortly! Am so so gutted.

Does anyone know what happens If he is positive but I manage to stay negative? I was due my final scan before trigger tomorrow but now obviously that may well be screwed.

All the options are flying round my head but I have no idea if they are actually options??

• could I take a sample in for him to use?
• would they even let me progress knowing someone in the household has it
• would they collect and freeze the eggs only? If so can they defrost to fertilise and then refreeze or does that mess things up??
• how long have people had to wait before trying again?

Can’t believe we got this far along the process after so long long of trying to not even then have a chance of an actual pregnancy

Any advice gratefully received

@Hopeful199 oh no . Its so frustrating .

Are you to have a PCR before collection?

I would say as long as you are negative rules say you can still go out. Although my clinic ask if I have any symptoms before entering the unit.

If push come to shove I don't see why they can't use a sample. How far away do you live. ? I know when we dropped one off for testing it had to be within an hour. Would you be on the unit and ready within the hour . It's a shame for you . Hopefully you remain negative and can still.go ahead.

This is my worst fear. My mother in law wants to come with me tomorrow and I dont want her to sit in the car with me as she goes here there and everywhere. I've got my PCR booked for Thursday.

Hope everything works out for you .x

@Hopeful199 I don’t know if clinics have different rules but mine states it would stop treatment if either of us have covid during stims before egg collection even if I am testing negative. My other half got covid the day before I was due to start stims and they wouldn’t let me start even tho I was negative and he wasn’t needed to attend until after his isolation was over. We had to postpone until the next month.

Thanks @Jennie154

This is what I’m guessing will happen. I am at the very end of stims so guess I would have to trigger and waste all of those and then wait a full cycle to start again. I have been down regging since before Christmas. We were so nearly there!

I almost want to catch it now as if I don’t and we restart then I will be just as fearful about it being me next time. Just feel so so sorry for myself. So gutted 😞