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IVF/FET October/November 21

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2021babyhope · 02/09/2021 08:10

I think I'm a bit early on some of the other threads so starting one for October/November 😊

1st fresh cycle in august ended in CP.

Booked for follow up consultation 30th September so hopefully I'll be able to transfer late October early November 🤞🏼

5 frozen blasts. Hoping to transfer 2 this time round but I'm not sure they'll let me 😬

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paintfairy · 12/11/2021 08:33

@CycleGirl20 yep. And for me (i still keep getting lots of wind though) it was still pretty bad up until midweek this week, several days after transfer.

CycleGirl20 · 12/11/2021 08:57

Thanks @paintfairy & @SunshineAndScience. I was worried they might not do transfer if I had bloating but sounds like it's quite normal

Ivfnewbie1 · 12/11/2021 09:00

Hey everyone how are you all doing today? @SunshineAndScience I hope your ok and ready for tomorrow 🤞🏻I’ve had no brown bleed as of yet since yesterday early evening, I also changed where I put the cyclogest x

paintfairy · 12/11/2021 09:02

@CycleGirl20 they asked me on transfer day about symptoms. I said I was bloated. They didn't seem to care. 🤣

strawberrysummer19 · 12/11/2021 09:07

@Ivfnewbie1 that's great news long may that continue

@CycleGirl20 I had such a bad bloat, mine seemed to die down after et x

Drink lots of electrolytes- worked a treat for me so coconut water and Lucozade sport x

IVFGotThis05 · 12/11/2021 11:48

Ahhh I was just about to ask this @CycleGirl20 ! Im back at work today and my stomach is just bloated and painful and sharp pains.. Gonna get myself some lucozade on my lunch! I just want to go home !

also these cyclogest are an experience aren't they!

TheSnufflet · 12/11/2021 13:27

Good luck today @VenusStarr, I've been keeping everything crossed for you x

@lucymills1234 I am gobsmacked and livid and heartbroken for you. Surely they are going to refund you your money? Did they say what stage/grade the one they actually transferred was at?

@MrsC2018 and @paintfairy how are you two holding up?

I've been away from these boards for good reason during the end of stims/ER/updates/ET - the whole thing has been a complete emotional rollercoaster for me and to provide 'live updates' would have been even worse Sad so forgive me for brain-dumping the whole previous week here:

My ER last Friday yielded 7 eggs, the same as last time, which was kind of disappointing as I had been on an increased dose of stims and I appeared to have more follicles this time around. I also had fainted about an hour before ER as the first attempt at cannulation wasn't successful - I came to with two very worried nurses over me! I've said it before - Bourn Hall may not be the best at comms but their in-person clinical care is excellent.

During retrieval the embryologist was saying to the doctor that they hadn't got any eggs out of several follicles that had been aspirated. Yet again, one of my ovaries was hard to access and the anaesthetist had to press down on my abdomen to allow the doctor to reach it - eventually the doctor gave up on the remaining follicles as he explained that they were of too small a size to be worth it/yield a mature egg. @ExhaustedPigeon1988 I had the same deal as you in the Norwich clinic - it is no longer policy to give a relaxant beforehand, so I had two paracetamol beforehand and everything else given via IV. I concur that this time round it was a lot more painful, although not unbearable (although I did get told off for clenching my buttocks during Blush).

As my last round ended up with zero fertilisation, I was dreading the embryologist's call on day 1, but luckily I got a very chirpy call that 5 out of the 7 had fertilised - I was over the moon! Apparently one egg had not survived the ICSI injection and another one that had been injected degenerated overnight (it was 'dark' looking, apparently), but the rest were 2PN and looking good. I asked for a day 3 update, and everything was still looking relatively good on Monday: one had not divided and was still 1 cell, one was at the 4-cell stage so a day behind, but the rest were 8, 9 and 10 cells respectively and all looked pretty symmetrical and not too fragmented (one was more fragmented than the rest though), so I was due to come in about midday on Wednesday for day 5 transfer.

I had been steeling myself for the worst-case scenario at every point throughout this process, including having nothing to transfer at day 5 - they told me if they rang on day 5 before my appointment, then it was going to be bad news and I wasn't to come in. Lo and behold, I got a call at 9am on the dot, where they said it was bad news - everything was behind where it should be, the best one was only a grade 1 blast, so barely a blast at all, and the other two were compacting morulas which looked heavily fragmented and poor quality. However they asked me to come in anyway as they were likely to transfer two? Which confused the hell out of me, as if they were so shit, why bother transferring them? There were a a lot of tears and a silent car journey on the way there.

However, when we arrived into the room for transfer, the doctor said "Better news!" - apparently there were now two actual blastocysts (one better than the other) and this had happened in the last couple of hours??? Shock And then they wanted to give us the pros and cons of transferring one or two: two, you get the risk of a multiple pregnancy; but if they transferred the best one, then there was always the chance that the other two they left until day 6 wouldn't be good enough to freeze and I would lose any NHS funding for a subsequent FET as there wouldn't be anything to transfer. They all left the room and gave my husband and I a few minutes to decide, and we both decided to transfer two pretty much immediately. ET itself was completely painless. I asked the doctor if it was true that he wouldn't transfer anything that he didn't think had a chance of making it, and he said absolutely, this was in no way a hopeless endeavour. I still have no idea what the actual grade of what they transferred was, but at this point I don't think it especially matters. The other morula they were keeping an eye on until day 6 obviously crapped out as I didn't get a phone call saying they were going to freeze anything, but then the embryologist said it wasn't likely to do much on the day of transfer.

So now I'm 2dp5dt with two somethings that may or may not be the sad fragmented sweepings off the embryology floor. I've awoken inconsolable from nightmares of disembodied voices calmly telling me that my embryos are already dead and that I'm not meant to be a mother, and been pretty much sobbing constantly during the daytime as well, but I'm guessing the Cyclogest isn't helping there Confused

Isn't the 2WW great!!

CycleGirl20 · 12/11/2021 13:43

@TheSnufflet that sounds like a rollercoaster. Fingers crossed for you! With 2 transferred you should have a reasonable chance and like you say, they'd not transfer if they didn't think there was a reasonable chance. Plus they obviously thought you were in with good odds only transferring one!

@IVFGotThis05 the cyclogest certainly are something. Although I'm not sure if they've made me feel any different. Just a weird application!

strawberrysummer19 · 12/11/2021 13:49

@TheSnufflet omg tour journey sounds so stressful bless you!

I had a similar call on my 1st cycle and they offered to transfer two but I only transfer one as I was so scared of multiple pregnancy. It didn't work for me sadly and now on 2ww on cycle
2 which is much better

I hope your 2 stick and like others have said they wouldn't transfer if there wasn't a chance

We were given less than 10% chance success rate but it's better than nothing

Hope you are taking care of yourself xxx

ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 12/11/2021 14:02

@TheSnufflet omg that all sounds so stressful, but actually really good news. Considering you didn't think you were going to make it to transfer, you have and you have 2 embryos on board which is pretty fantastic :) very well done for holding your nerves and getting this far. I am with you that tww is the worst part of the journey, but you are clearly still in the running... stay strong babe you got this!!!! Have been meaning to message you, but figured you would update when you were ready, everything is so emotional isn't it!!! Yep staff are good when you are in Bourn, just appalling the rest of the time. I think 2 paracetamol is now the standard for EC, which I don't think is really enough, on the plus side it's very quick isn't it, I had the same with them pushing on my belly to get to left ovary, was grateful to get out lol x

IVFGotThis05 · 12/11/2021 14:12

Wow what a stressful journey for you ! @TheSnufflet !! But like the others say you have two on board now so fingers crossed for the best outcome after such a crappy week!

For my egg collection I hardly remember it ! I was drugged up on sedation and morphine or something, I cant quite remember what she said ! I remember my legs going into the stirrups and her saying she's starting and then getting told we are all done and to transfer over to my bed ! I kind of wished I remembered a little more but glad I felt no pain !

MrsC2018 · 12/11/2021 14:24

@ExhaustedPigeon1988 and @TheSnufflet honestly you guys are my heros! I asked the anaesthetist to give me more sedation at my EC as I could still hear them talking and I didn't like it 🙈 he bloody did and I had a lovely sleep! I also have a problematic ovary and even with the consultant pushing and pulling on my stomach they couldn't get to one of mine so pretty glad I was asleep really.

I'm also terrified of twins but had 2 transferred as well as I'm not sure they would have frozen mine and I just figure they're better off in me than discarded by the embryologist - 10% chance is better than no chance.

I've spent the last hour watching the timelapse video of them and comparing it to internet videos which is pretty unhealthy as I've no idea what I'm looking at so I'll prob need to put my phone down now. Fortunately in work all day tomorrow so at least I can get a break from my own head!

Don't you just love those progesterone dreams, I have a reoccurring one where im watching 2 lines appear on a pregnancy test - it's heartbreaking to wake up from 😢

ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 12/11/2021 14:28

@MrsC2018 I had regular nightmares after egg collection, if being in the room and watching myself go through it again and again. That stopped after about 2 weeks lol, think the trauma of the negative test took over lol. It's amazing what we all go through x

paintfairy · 12/11/2021 15:04

@TheSnufflet definitely a rollercoaster! None of this is fun, is it? Its terrible what we have to go through really. But fingers crossed for your transferred ones.
@MrsC2018 I was dreaming badly on buserelin and stims. I'm now glad of a rest! 🤣 I never felt like I'd slept properly because my dreams were so busy.
But sometimes the progesterone keeps me awake. Hot hands and feet. And I have so much trapped wind I think I might pop. 🙈

My EC was actually fine. I can't believe they just give paracetamol? Thank god for the sedation is all I can think.

VenusStarr · 12/11/2021 16:00

Not good news for us 💔 looks like a blighted ovum. Just at the epu, they're going to rescan me and take it from there. Thank you for all the lovely support and messages ❤️ feel numb and a bit broken xx

MrsC2018 · 12/11/2021 16:11

@VenusStarr I'm just so sorry 💔

TheSnufflet · 12/11/2021 16:14

I'm so so so sorry @VenusStarr FlowersFlowersFlowers are they rescanning today? please look after yourself xxx

@CycleGirl20 you know, I had never thought of it that way (in terms of transferring one) - but then I do think they wouldn't transfer two at my age (35) unless they were both pretty shit quality as the NHS/HFEA are pretty hot on single embryo transfers for all? But also when I look at my clinic's stats on the HFEA website, the cohort of patients that I fit into had double transfers 50% of the time, so perhaps I'm not that unusual 🤷‍♀️
Count yourself lucky you haven't had any Cyclogest side effects yet, the application is the best bit 😂

@strawberrysummer19 thank you so much and I'm so pleased this round has gone better for you xxx

Thanks @ExhaustedPigeon1988, are you still in the buserelin downreg stage? They did offer to turn up the drugs for me but as I wasn't in screaming agony I reckoned I could get through it okay, plus the wall was moving 🥴

@IVFGotThis05 wow you lucky thing, do you know what it was they gave you? For us they give you paracetamol an hour beforehand then everything else is administered by IV, I believe it's fentanyl mixed with something else - I was definitely awake throughout the whole thing (just pretty high)

@MrsC2018 Problematic ovary gang unite! Honestly it sounds as though we've had a very similar experience with number fertilised and transferred. I'm well aware of and have a healthy fear of all the complications that occur with multiple pregnancies, but the way it was explained to us, we had a higher % chance of a live birth if they transferred two so I suppose they thought it was pretty unlikely both would take due to the quality.

@paintfairy thank you! it's so strange how all the symptoms are different for everyone isn't it? I'm glad I'm not the only one having weird dreams though!

paintfairy · 12/11/2021 16:22

@VenusStarr I'm so sorry. 💔 I can't imagine how you must be feeling. 💐

ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 12/11/2021 16:24

@VenusStarr I'm devastated for you, I cannot imagine the agony you are going through, I hope the rescan gives you much better news!!! Will that be today? X

@TheSnufflet they wanted me to have gas and air, but was more interested in getting it over with and out asap. They did end up giving me a second dose of something IV related as my blood pressure dropped when they started poking my left ovary about. The pain was disgusting but over with quickly, would strangely enough do it again if required lol. Still on buserelin, but down to 0.2ml, and not on progynova too, am so fed up with headaches and tiredness. Have had a headache solid since 19th October with no relief, doesn't matter how many paracetamol I take or how much water I drink, it's really affecting my work and moods too, I can't concentrate on anything other than how much my head hurts!!!

ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 12/11/2021 16:27

@TheSnufflet I meant I am on progynova too, see what I meant about my brain, it just doesn't work! I run a busy salon, and I'm really struggling to focus on what I'm doing!!! Someone's gonna come out with eyelashes extensions in their eyebrows, and hair dye in their pubes if I'm not careful ;-)

IVFGotThis05 · 12/11/2021 16:55

@VenusStarr Oh I'm so sorry. Sending hugs !

Gensola · 12/11/2021 19:11

@ExhaustedPigeon1988 😂😂 that made me laugh so much

CycleGirl20 · 12/11/2021 19:19

I'm so sorry to hear that @VenusStarr Flowers

CycleGirl20 · 12/11/2021 19:20

I thought I wasn't getting progesterone symptoms, but I have been having weird dreams and having to sleep 10 hours a night so now I'm wondering

MrsC2018 · 12/11/2021 19:32

@CycleGirl20 yeah, that's progesterone. It also makes your digestion sluggish so some people are constipated, sickly and windy too 😂

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