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IVF/FET October/November 21

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2021babyhope · 02/09/2021 08:10

I think I'm a bit early on some of the other threads so starting one for October/November 😊

1st fresh cycle in august ended in CP.

Booked for follow up consultation 30th September so hopefully I'll be able to transfer late October early November 🤞🏼

5 frozen blasts. Hoping to transfer 2 this time round but I'm not sure they'll let me 😬

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ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 04/11/2021 23:10

@paintfairy if it helps, I went for a wee twice before I left the house on transfer day. I had an hour of acupuncture, I then had a bottle (750ml) of water during the car journey (40 mins) to the clinic. I drank a further half a bottle while waiting, and when I went in they told me it was perfect. So this maybe a rough idea. I needed to wee but I wasn't desperate. When I came out I was told I could go to the toilet straightaway, but I was more interested in getting into my own clothes first, so clearly wasn't dying to pee lol x

strawberrysummer19 · 05/11/2021 07:53

@ExhaustedPigeon1988 that sounds like a lot of water ! I'm not even sure my bladder could hold that much for that amount of time!

This is what I worry about as my last transfer I drank a small bottle of water and then I was bursting, they scanned me and told me to go back to the waiting room and wait but only sip and not to down it, I was so full I wanted to cry
But I struggle with bladder weakness

I know the same thing will happen I'm just trying to breath through it as in theory it's not too long to be uncomfortable it's just a worry if mine as it's soo weak

I'm going to the gp if I'm not pregnant this round, life is miserable with it and doing ivf and making sure I'm drinking lots has only highlighted it for me x

strawberrysummer19 · 05/11/2021 07:56

For day 3 updates - for those that get them
My clinic said they will only call on a no news is good news - not sure what this means???
So if they do call is it always morning time like usual calls from embryologists - take it they don't check them throughout the day ?

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ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 05/11/2021 08:13

@strawberrysummer19 that sounds horrible. I do drink a lot, at the moment I am drinking atleast 4 litres a day, trying the flush away these headaches, as paracetamol just doesn't touch them. So I'm wering like every half hour, drives me crazy lol. Our clinic called morning after EC, then 2 days later, then I called them the morning of transfer and couldn't deal with the thought of getting there to bad news. If in any doubt call them, you deserve reassurance x

paintfairy · 05/11/2021 08:44

@strawberrysummer19 God. I think sitting there panicking the phone might ring its even worse than me not getting to know at all! Especially with no time frame?
As for the bladder - 750ml isn't that much and anything you sip in the waiting room won't filter through that fast. @ExhaustedPigeon1988 i remember going for a scan at my gp to check for general issues and they said 2 litres! I was thinking- no way can my bladder hold 2 litres. Are you fucking kidding? But it was morning and I think the opposite happened and I struggled getting enough in there, in time. Although they never said anything. Maybe mine is small so it seemed full? God knows.
As for the issue- its weird because mine varies. Sometimes I feel like I haven't been for ages and when I go its a lot. And I think oh I dunno how I didn't feel desperate. Other times I feel really desperate (and I can't hold it) and some of those times there's not even loads? Makes no sense. What i did notice was (strangely) when I met my DH and was dtd regularly, this seemed to somehow help? But I get anxious going anywhere with strangers if I think I won't have access to a toilet. I remember driving to Scotland with a guy I'd not been seeing long and I actually thought I was going to wet myself in his car! 😫

strawberrysummer19 · 05/11/2021 09:16

@paintfairy I did that when I first met my partner - had to stop at a McDonald's as I was desperate for a wee - thought I was going to wet myself. We were on our first date driving from London to Kent and 7 yrs later still together lol!!

I've just measured and it's not that much but still for me it's a big issue because of how my bladder is but sure I'll get through it! My gp was the same when I went though all my scans - told me to drink 2l and I really really couldn't.

But hopefully transfer will be ok - if I get there !

I don't mind not having a call and there's no point calling today because if it's bad news they will call and if it's good news there's nothing to say they won't be good for Sunday - not being negative but that's what happened last time, they stopped growing day 4 but didn't get the the update until day 5 so if there is a good update today then it only gets my hopes up but this cycle ive learned to go with the flow. As last time even my scanning was up and down if they would cancel due to low folicles so I'll just feel lucky to get this far

Let's hope our embabies are doing well

How are you feeling about tomorrow @paintfairy
Also @MrsC2018 yours is tomorrow isn't it?
Xx

paintfairy · 05/11/2021 09:22

@strawberrysummer19 that's what I thought about a day 3 update to be honest. I got my hopes up when they collected more eggs than I thought, to have only 5 fertilise. I know things can change a lot after day 3 so I'd be really upset to have a great day 3 update and then a terrible day 5!
My DH is used to me. So are my friends. But it's awkward when people aren't. Can anyone hold 2 litres! Seems insanity to me.

I am still really bloated. Its not comfortable. I woke in the night feeling not great and got up and drank and took paracetamol. So I dunno how I'm holding anything! I think I feel OK about the actual transfer (although I might change my mind after!) but I'm apprehensive about the call. I'm dreading that.

strawberrysummer19 · 05/11/2021 09:44

@paintfairy exactly, I just feel now what will be will be. It's out of our hands isn't it. I just hope I manage to get to transfer.
Do you not get any update at all?

I was so uncomfortable last night after dinner! But it does feel like trapped wind and it felt better after about 3hrs.

Today it's ok, I've done the school run ( first time I've driven since before EC as my partner has been off and doing them. I still take paracetamol every 4 hrs not that I think they do anything. And I'm wfh today which wasn't planned I was supposed to go back in but someone in my office has tested positive for Covid! So I boss sent everyone home and advised we get pcr as I went in the office Monday! That set me into panic mode as now I'm thinking track and trace may tell me to stay home?! From what I've googled we don't have to self isolate ? But I've done a pcr which will hopefully come back before Sunday anyway

It makes me feel happier I've done a text before transfer anyway ! Like we haven't got enough to worry about in the ivf world

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2021babyhope · 05/11/2021 11:11

@ExhaustedPigeon1988 it's an FET protocol this time round and it seems super long 😭 but Bourn Hall only do the medicated cycle because they don't work Sundays.

I'll be on Buserelin for about 28 more days and then start adding oestrogen and progesterone in the closer we get to transfer. Hoping to transfer on the 9th December.

Have my first (and only which I thought was a bit strange) scan on the 1st December to check lining.

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ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 05/11/2021 11:23

@2021babyhope that's exactly the same as me... they do advertise natural FET, I asked them about it as wasn't happy with how long the medicated version is, they told me if requested they will do it, but obviously if ovulation happened at the weekend then the cycle is cancelled- thinking that would have been at better route for me personally, and think that's what I will do if this fails. I have my only scan 23rd November, dreading it incase the 6 weeks of meds before haven't worked :( x

IVFGotThis05 · 05/11/2021 11:26

Just having a little catch up! Not long to go for the ladies hoping to make it to transfer I hope the next couple of days are good news and everything goes ahead for you !

I had my EC pushed back a day... which isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. so it's now scan on Monday and EC Wednesday ! Praying my little follicles grow for the monday scan and it's not delayed again ! Anyone have improvement from day 8 scan to scan before EC ? I'm a little worried I can't lie

strawberrysummer19 · 05/11/2021 11:58

@IVFGotThis05 yes me ! But I was a slow responder so day 9 I was given more stims and didn't scan again from Friday to Monday and Monday I was ready and ec was on Wednesday

That was my last cycle not this one but it was touch n go if the cycle would even go ahead and from 3-4 good growth ones we got 9 eggs so try not to worry and have faith 😘 xx

IVFGotThis05 · 05/11/2021 12:09

@strawberrysummer19 ahhh well that has made me feel a lot better! Thank you :) I suppose with the whole process you just got to hope it all works !

strawberrysummer19 · 05/11/2021 12:12

@IVFGotThis05 sometimes they just need more meds a little longer to get them over the line

This time I needed less time but have less eggs but remember quality over quantity!!

That's what I keep trying to tell myself xx

IVFGotThis05 · 05/11/2021 12:18

Yeah I'm trying not to focus on numbers because even at my Day 8 scan she only measured about 5 so it got me worried and I just thought what will be will be! So I'm not expecting big numbers on EC ! x

paintfairy · 05/11/2021 12:18

@IVFGotThis05 hopefully they'll catch up! Everyone is different at the end of the day.
@ExhaustedPigeon1988 @2021babyhope the Sunday thing is ridiculous.
@strawberrysummer19 I get an update just before I need to leave the house.

2021babyhope · 05/11/2021 14:10

@ExhaustedPigeon1988 yeah I had the same conversation - almost felt like they were trying to put me off a natural cycle.

If this medicated cycle doesn't work though I'll push for a natural next time too because I'm basically waiting 3.5 months between transfers now as it took 6+ weeks for my consultation after my chemical.

I'm most nervous about the scan for the same reason! Just no idea what's going on until then so keeping my fingers crossed!

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ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 05/11/2021 14:27

@2021babyhope yeah I do find them hard to talk to. After our failed cycle last time they were the same with me expected me to wait ages for a consultation, I just kicked off, we weren't rude but I wouldn't let it go until we had a closer appointment.... that was still 3 weeks. I just do not understand why they can't fit you in for a 30 minute consultation! I was so upset and angry, and no one listened or cared. I'm tied to them as we have paid for 2 full cycles and any FET from them cycles, if it hasn't worked by them I will go elsewhere, I hate their lack of concern. What's the point of the consultation anyway, I never understand what is being said, and they just tell you what you already know, I found it all really patronising tbh x

lucymills1234 · 05/11/2021 14:55

Thanks all, I was definitely happy with 10 fertilised. One has now been lost (signs of abnormal fertilisation) but 9 are still in the running - but I know there are critical days to come. I've requested a day 3 update as I couldn't bear the thought of waiting until Monday.

@paintfairy I got 7 fertilised from 12 first time, 11 from 18 second time.

@strawberrysummer19 thanks so much :) hope you're feeling better today

@VenusStarr @Justawannabemam @Holskey @IVFGotThis05 thanks very much, I have all limbs crossed for the next few days...

@theotherfossilsister thanks, it's so odd to think of them bubbling away in a petri dish! Sorry to hear about your cyst, that must be so frustrated. Fingers crossed it resolves itself soon x

@ExhaustedPigeon1988 I really hope you're right! I got five blasts from 11 fertilised on my last round but one chemical, two BFN, one didn't survive thaw and one still in the freezer, so my initial confidence evaporated.. I would LOVE for this round to be the one before I run out of time and money!!

Need to catch up with p22 updates but posting this before I forget everything :)

paintfairy · 05/11/2021 15:12

@ExhaustedPigeon1988 I think they know you are tied and that's it. Which is terrible! 🤬
@lucymills1234 those are pretty good numbers.

paintfairy · 05/11/2021 15:13

Is anyone else craving salty things? I am!

2021babyhope · 05/11/2021 15:30

@ExhaustedPigeon1988 I think I should have done the same to be honest. And you're right, my last consultation was about 22 mins - why we had to wait 6 weeks to be told what we'd already known is beyond me!

Did make me laugh when they asked if we wanted to use the counselling service 6 weeks after the chemical 😅

Oh that's a shame 😢 we're NHs funded so kind of stuck also!

It's strange, I don't really feel like I have a clinic really, just get sent info and then use YouTube for tutorials and stuff and just hope for the best!

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strawberrysummer19 · 05/11/2021 15:47

@paintfairy omg yes me ! I'm literally craving salty things x

ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 05/11/2021 15:57

@2021babyhope wow your experience sounds so similar to mine, we kicked up a stink and spoke to them 3 weeks after our failed cycle, to be offered counselling then. I'm not going to lie I wasn't prepared for such a stupid question, my reply was well I'm not swinging from the ceiling am I.... oops I blame hormones. But I just thought it was so bad, cannot believe yours was 6 weeks!!! I would have gone crazy in that time! I have done the same with online searches, as absolutely no support through the clinic, and FET is even worse as no appointments either! X

ExhaustedPigeon1988 · 05/11/2021 16:24

@paintfairy I never dreamt a clinic would be so uncaring, how naïve was I lol x

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