IVF/FET October/November 21

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I think I'm a bit early on some of the other threads so starting one for October/November 😊

1st fresh cycle in august ended in CP.

Booked for follow up consultation 30th September so hopefully I'll be able to transfer late October early November 🤞🏼

5 frozen blasts. Hoping to transfer 2 this time round but I'm not sure they'll let me 😬

I just concerned about how faint the line is . Should it be darker at this point ? I think I'd rather go for bloods then I'd know for sure.

A line is a line! Congratulations!!! @Justawannabemam

@Ciroseo shirt live I think. I've had cramps this morning been back to the loo and red blood .

Short lived that was meant to say

I'm so sorry @Justawannabemam 😪
Silly question but are you okay?

I'm a bit upset.
I've spoke to the clinic and I've to monitor the bleeding until tomorrow. She said it can be common and without the bloods they wouldn't know for sure. I'm going over Monday to pick up a prescription and they may do bloods then. I just think the cramping mixed with the red blood is a bad sign x

@Justawannabemam not everyone gets strong lines early on. The bleeding is a worry though. I think it's a case of time will tell, but being in limbo is an awful place to be. I'm sorry. I hope the clinic will do a blood test for you.

@Justawannabemam sorry to hear and I really hope it stops, keep strong and sending lots of positive vibes your way xx

@justawannabemam I'm so sorry you're going through this. OTD is supposed to bring us an answer so it's just really shit that you're in limbo. I'm really hoping for the best for you x

Thanks everyone

Im sure it's getting heavier I'm heartbroken .💔Confirmed with test at 5 am and starting to go by 8 am.

@paintfairy As others have said, day 0 is the day after EC. My clinic only do EC on certain days so that there aren't transfers on a Sunday, so even though my baseline scan showed I was ok to start stims, I was told not to start until the next day to line up with their EC schedule. Though I don't know what happens if I need to stim longer...

@VenusStarr congrats! You must be over the moon. Hope you're feeling ok.

@Justawannabemam So sorry, it's incredibly stressful to be in that position. Are you on progesterone? Usually that would hold off a bleed if you hadn't had implantation. I had a chemical with my third transfer - I'm not saying that's the case here, but if you have any questions please ask (though will be different for everyone of course).

I am hoping my follicles are growing nicely as I really pretty bloated now. Day 8 scan tomorrow. Have to confess that my desire to see progress is partly because I want things to move along to EC and partly because I want to avoid paying an extra £125 per day for Ovaleap if I need more!

@lucymills1234 I'm going to ask when I go tomorrow what would happen if EC falls Tuesday and therefore day 5 would be Sunday. I suppose its difficult to plan anything when no one knows how your body will respond. If they end up doing EC Monday it'll be fine. It'll very likely be one or the other though. I've got enough drugs I think for either/or. But yes the ovaleap is very expensive! Are you on that only? I feel a bit bloated today. I keep getting twinges too. I'm sure i can feel my ovaries.

@lucymills1234 yes I'm on progesterone. Once a day injection.

So do you think it's biochemical? I didn't think I would have bleed if I was taking progesterone. Literally everything has gone clockwork. We genuinely thought we had struck lucky. We both have no know medical condition apart from my boyfriends low sperm. We just thought we needed a hand for it to get to the egg. And it did .

My friend has just said to me, which I know she will be trying to reassure me but I don't know if this can happen. But she said maybe it's just one that I could be loosing and the other one has implanted. Is that even possible?

@paintfairy my clinic says 11 days of stims is the standard and I started last Friday, so for me that would mean a last stims dose on Monday eve, trigger that night and EC on Wednesday. That's what I'm assuming for now... I have 11 days worth of Ovaleap but beyond that I'd start paying.

For you to EC on Monday that would be trigger on Saturday, so I guess it all depends what they see tomorrow! I think you said before you usually don't stim past 10 days?

I'm only on Ovaleap. Apart from a day 8 scan and then a scan every 2 days past that, my clinic don't do any other checks, do yours? Some clinics seem to check bloods regularly and I always wonder why there's such a variation in approach.

@lucymills1234 I've never done an ivf cycle before. Only iui. If I trigger Saturday though that would only be 10 days of stims if my last were Friday night (I'm sure they told me you don't take any the trigger night), that's why I'm wondering. I'm on long protocol - I assume so they have more control because in my own right I ovulate really. But yeah I'll see what they say tomorrow! I suppose we have to trust they know what they are doing.

For me they've scanned day 6, 8, and tomorrow will be 10. They did bloods on day 6 but when I went yesterday they said there was no need. When I asked what they were for though- they said to check hormone levels. I'm maybe on a slightly lower ovaleap dose than you, as I'm taking it in combination with menopur (no idea why). I've given up trying to understand why anything. I just turn up. 🤣

What i do know is - I've a banging headache today!

Hi @Justawannabemam I really wouldn't be able to say if it is a chemical or not, things are so different for different people. Is the bleeding like full period flow or lighter/spotting?

What your friend said is possible and you could lose one embryo and the other could have implanted. As awful as it is the only thing you can do is wait and test again in a couple of days. It's utter hell, I know, but at this point even if your clinic tested bloods they'd need to wait a few days to do another test and see if your hCG levels went up or down. It's too early for a scan to show anything. I do realise that wait and see is horrible 'advise'.

My experience was that I waited to test until OTD which was 11dp5dt. I'd noticed symptoms from about 7dp5dt (major tiredness, breast tenderness) that I hadn't got with previous transfers that didn't work. I got a good line on a FRER on OTD but by then my symptoms had faded a bit and I had a lot of cramping. I tested again 13dp5dt with a FRER and the line was much lighter. Clinic said wait a few more days and test again. Tested at 15dp5dt and digi said not pregnant, so it was chemical. I didn't bleed until I'd stopped the progesterone. But because that was my outcome definitely doesn't mean it will be yours.

Ah @paintfairy you're a bit ahead of me - I thought today was day 7 for you. I'm long protocol too.

I've always had a stims dose the same night as trigger before but again, just shows how clinics do it differently! Just turn up is definitely less of a head wrecker

@lucymills1234 thank you.

I done a digital yesterday and it was pregnant. I'll maybe pick up some in a few days I know if I get them now I'll do it now and I want to wait x

My breasts were tender but that has gone. I am taking progesterone so I really don't know what this bleed is. It's hard bc I live 2.5 hours away from the clinic. I've never had a strong line. Plenty of faded and lots of 'pregenants" on digis.

My partner has said if it's unsuccessful we can try again . But genuinely right now I don't know if I can do it again . My partners nephew has just announced they are having baby 2. Which is really bad timing for us . Happy for them but I just think why can't it be us . They expect alot of help from family with number 1 so god know how they'll cope with 2 !

It's not a full period I saw red and thought it's bad

@lucymills1234 that's what I started thinking. Because they barely tell you anything anyway. I had to ask at my last scan if all looked OK, because I'm not even sure they were going to say! So I'm taking a day at a time. And I'm completely in denial about egg collection. Yeah I'm day 9 today! This bit is going really fast. The downreg seemed to go on forever.

Wow, it's so hard to keep on top of everything that's going on after not popping on for two days !

@strawberrysummer19 Ah how's stims going for you ? I done my first menopur last night so still early days for me. My clinic gave me a schedule of all the dates on, of course they can change, which they did state. So for now my plan is to start stim 27 Oct, first scan next thursday (4th Nov) then I think next scan is 6th or 7th, depending the results and EC is provisionally booked in for the 9th !

@Chrischross Thanks for the advice ! I'll definitely try my best! Lot's of excuse for the DP to run after me maybe !? :)

@lucymills1234 That does sound like the worst part of the journey so far! I'll have to get planning I think, I don't want to be sat around with my own thoughts ! So thanks for that :)

Thank you for all the love and we'll wishes ❤️ I hope this is a lucky thread. Its not sunk in yet. Still don't feel pregnant (compared to my others), I do however feel wired but exhausted, I think a combination of the steroid treatment I'm on alongside not sleeping at all, my mind was whirring last night. My clinic gave booked me a 6 week scan, so 2 weeks to wait. We've never had a good scan, struggling to imagine it will be oo, so have affirmations on repeat 🙏

How are you @Holskey?

I'm sorry you're in limbo @Justawannabemam in my fresh cycle I bled before test day and then got a faint line that did get progressively darker. My clinic did monitor my hcg but it was very low. I hope that's not the case for you ❤️

Hope everyone on stims is doing OK @lucymills1234 @paintfairy @strawberrysummer19

@TheSnufflet @theotherfossilsister, have you both started stims now?

I know I've missed lots of people, hope everyone is well xx

@VenusStarr I've heard can happen my friends daughter bleed heavily for a week and was still positive. I wont build my hopes up.

Did your pregnancy progress ?

The clinic have told me not to test til Sunday by then we should know

Thank you everyone for your kind words its good to talk to people who are in the same place. Xx

I hope everyone is keep okay wherever you are in your journey.x

Oh @VenusStarr I am so bloody happy for you. This is wonderful wonderful news.

I'm still down regulating on the busrelin. I feel like this will fail and what's the point, etc, at the moment. My mum was forty three when she had me and I accidentally found a study about older mothers having infertile daughters who fail IVF. I was actually googling how to make my mum understand IVF and have felt horrible since.

I feel so selfish doing this too. I can't go and see my folks abroad during a cycle for instance and as they're so old it seems monstrous centring myself. Ugh. So many low thoughts.

I'd love a glass of wine 🍷 but pretty sure you can't drink on the busrelin. Also I'll hate myself if I get no eggs after having just one glass because I'm obsessive like that.

Once again trying to psyche myself up to walk the two miles home. I really really should as haven't had much exercise lately, but also I'm really tired.

@Justawannabemam that sounds so hard, ugh, I hate this uncertainty.

Hey @VenusStarr! I actually convinced myself I was having a chemical last night. The ever so slight nausea that I've been feeling subsided, so of course the mild cramps I had (which I often have) must be a sign that it was doomed! I know exactly what I'd say if someone were to post such paranoia but all objectivity has gone. Still, better to be in this anxious position than not!
Two weeks until your scan though! That's brilliant! I know it will take an age to come round, but less time than a 7 weeks scan 🙂. What's the furthest your previous pregnancies have processed to? (if it's not too insensitive to ask!)

@theotherfossilsister try not to be so hard on yourself. You're not selfish at all! And although I haven't read that study, I wouldn't take it to heart too much. Apparently girls with twin brothers are more likely to struggle with fertility but none of the ones I know (including my own 1st-month-of-trying-everytime mother) have had any problems. These differences are often small. Certainly not hopeless