IVF - Feb/March - continued

[Mrbay]

Hi All

Thought I'd better start us a new thread as we are so close 999 messages!

Morning all

@FirstTimeIVFers - I am so very sorry, rest up and have a lovely large glass of something nice.

@kitttycatt - oh I wonder what they meant by that?

I'm so sorry to hear that @FirstTimeIVFers I know how hard it is to think about how to go through it again. We decided to take a few months off between cycles and it did us the world of good mentally.. And also to get my body back healthy. Xx

Well I've just come out of EC... it was worse than last time, which I didn't think could be possible! My body must have a low pain threshold. Awake through it all and felt every needle. Oh well.
I got 17 eggs restrived and so the wait is on for the phone calls... So hoping I don't get a huge drop off like last time xx

Hi everyone ! Congrats to people on their bfps.
Just wanted a little bit of advice. I went to the clinic today for a baseline scan so I can start my stims. The nurse told me my lining is too thick to which I stated well I usually bleed for 5 days and it's day 2. Anyway she said she will do a blood test and if that's ok I can start. If it's not I've got to wait till next month!!!
But I thought to myself , surely my lining could be the same next month and so on?
Really confused and feel like I've been treated like pure shit. The nurse was so rude and dismissive. I am a nurse myself and pride myself how well I treat my patients I would never speak to anyone like she spoke to me.
Just come home and burst into tears and thought fkn ell this is such a hard time.
So Moreeee waiting till this afternoon till I find out my blood results.
Please can someone tell me I'm not going mad? What are your experiences ?

So sorry for your loss @FirstTimeIVFers, look after each other and mourn your loss.

@Mrbay having had various degrees of spotting and pain for two weeks my clinic referred me to the EPU yesterday. Went in this morning at 5+3. Couldn’t quite see heartbeat yet but a wobbly blimp where the hearts are hopefully just getting going! Two good sized gestational sacks in the right place, near the top of my uterus. To say that I sobbed is an understatement! The ladies in EPU said if I’d gone in toward the end of this week they’re pretty certain there’d be a heart beat. We have a private scan booked for Saturday which I’ve been debating cancelling as so sure the bleeding meant bad news but now I’m glad. I have to go back for a rescan next Tuesday and then my clinics viability scan the week after that - most scanned early twins of all time?! I can’t say that I feel relaxed, but so relieved. I stayed up all night last night reading every medical study on ectopic pregnancies going!

@swirls3468 that sounds pretty awful! In this cycle, my period did not want to show up and I was panicking it was going to delay everything. Ended up going in for baseline scan on the afternoon of day 1 which was pretty grim. They could see that the lining was still thick but they were also able to see on the scan that the endometrium was breaking down so were happy for me to stay on the original timeline. I’m sorry I can’t say anything useful to you, only that you sometimes get people in fertility clinics who seem to have absolutely no idea where they work and what we have to go through amazingly. I always find it best after bad appointments to get home, have a good cry and then ring back and speak to a nurse I know gets it with everything written down Infront of me so I get all my worries and questions heard. Sending you lots of love and hoping your bloods come back soon x

@JessTTC thank you for your reply. At the scan I was just sat there thinking to myself well I'm still really heavy so surely the lining won't be thin on day 2?
Yeah some of the nurses are so inconsiderate there. It's like they have no compassion. Like the whole thing isn't stressful enough as it is.
I asked about injections and what to take etc if I was to start to which she huffed and said "this is a 15 minute scan appointment" to which I replied that I hadn't been shown anything about injections. She said they should've shown me in my information session. But that's not my fault !!
Just really hope I can start this month as I'm isolating from work already and mentally prepared.
Really appreciate your kind words. X

@FirstTimeIVFers I'm so sorry to hear that. As others have said, take time for yourself before rushing into any next steps.

@JessTTC TWINS!! Amazing news. Congrats. Sounds like all is good despite the spotting then. The EPU weren't concerned with anything? It will be so great when you see their heartbeats soon. I feel like that is a milestone that, if I reach it, will calm my worry a tiny bit.

They couldn’t see any blood in my uterus, cysts or clots that could be causing the bleeds. They were so thorough and kind. She did say that my cervix has been poked and prodded about so much thanks to IVF that any slightly raw area from that is now having twice the amount of blood flow sent to it so it could be that that’s bleeding. She also said implantation can drag on and on. If it was soaking a pad or it was my pale brown spotting coupled with me bent over in pain she’d be very concerned but everything looked good and as it should. I now have to try and force myself to calm down a little!

@thetallgirl totally agree, they’re in the right lace which is what I’ve been losing sleep over. Mini milestone complete, now to get heartbeats 🤞🏼 She said the risk of miscarriage drops considerably once we see a heart beat which I didn’t realise so trying to be excited for Saturday!

@swirls3468 - they don't sound very helpful, I think my baselines have been a little later in my cycle to prevent this worry.

@JessTTC - that is amazing news!! At least you've had the twins confirmed now :)
That's encouraging to hear - I kinda wish I had an earlier scan booked.

I've booked some announcement cookies for the grandparents to be, subject to a positive scan on the 1st - that's when we are going to tell them.

@Kitttycatt congratulations on the heartbeat! Shame you didn’t get to hear it, I’ve never heard of this causing harm before, how strange. You’ve hit a massive hurdle regardless!

@hopingagainsthope don’t give up yet. Chin up, Friday will come around soon enough. Get some first response tests on Amazon prime!

@Mrbay oh totally, if you want one then you have one. If I’m lucky enough to get that far I will be booking one because I don’t think my husband would be allowed in and I would want us to see it together for the first time, or heaven forbid there was bad news I wouldn’t want him oblivious in the car and then have to go and wonder where to even start trying to tell him. I’ve tested again today because this is my life now. I won’t be able to help myself every day now, but I’m still not going to cough to it until either Friday evening or OTD on Sat because I just feel very wary.

@FirstTimeIVFers I’m so sorry to hear that how bloody awful for you. Have you spoken to your clinic yet about it? It’s absolutely a loss and totally valid, make sure you allow yourself to grieve xx

@Rachae well done! 17 eggs is wonderful! That’s the number of eggs I got so snap ☺️ rest up now, are you preparing for a fresh transfer or freeze all?

@swirls3468 I’m sorry I don’t have any experience of this so I can’t advise but definitely complain if you feel they’ve not treated you right. It’s a hard enough process as it is without needless shittiness!

@JessTTC omg wow! Congratulations! That’s such lovely news what a lovely outcome. Did you have 2 embryos transferred or has one split?

Thanks @ThePurpleFairy I tested again this morning still BFN. I'm so gutted I know it's not over until Friday but I just can't bare to see the dreaded negative again. I'm just going to wait I think it's the only way I will keep some bit sane.
2 years ago I went through IVF we got 2 embryos one fresh transfer which worked so lucky to have my little one. The frozen one is what I've just had transferred. I'm just praying for a good result this is my last chance as we've agreed no further treatment as it effects my hormones too much. But I know how lucky I am already, sorry I'm rambling now
Everyone here is so amazing. Those of you that have your BFP I'm so happy for you all enjoy every moment.
Those that have to continue the IVF journey be strong your time will come.

Sorry I don't even know if what I'm saying is making sense I'm all over the place with hormones

Thanks @ThePurpleFairy! Not sure what a freeze all means? They're going to monitor across next few days and then if I have something to transfer it will be done on Sunday.
I'm very anxious now as it was a similar outcome last cycle..i think we got 20 eggs and none made it to be a graded embryo on transfer day. We just transfered the one via le early blastocyst but embryologist didn't seem to have much hope!
Never got an explanation and I've spoken to about 10 embryologists now... Nothing wrong with sperm or egg.
So this cycle is testing what happened last time ... To see if the same thing happens again. I really hope not xx

@hopingagainsthope did you use morning wee? I’ve been trying to use those but god it’s hard especially if you wake up at 4am and then have to waste it because you’re too tired to be bothered 😅 you’re doing great to get this far, hold tight and see what happens Friday

@Rachae freeze all is where you don’t have a fresh transfer and they freeze all your embryos and you do FETs for transfers. They do it for people they think will get OHSS or people having genetic testing. You’re having fresh transfer by the sounds, so guessing you’re gearing up to have one put back. I really hope not as well, fingers crossed! Did you do IVF or ICSI?

@ThePurpleFairy ah ha, I see! Yea a fresh one for me then.. It's on the NHS so they didn't offer testing etc. We're doing IVF. Gosh roller-coaster week ahead! I forgot what it's like to wait for those spaced out phone calls! Xx

Update on my situation. The clinic finally called at 6pm and said I can start my stims as the bloods were fine. What a relief ! Had an awful day just thinking if they are going to cancel next month. Feel so relieved can start treatment.
Now I need some advice , I did my first injection and it freaked me out completely. The funny thing is this is the least bit I was worried about. I stick needles in people all day long in my job and not phased at all. But when it come to myself?
I did do it, but I felt so faint afterwards.
Any tips ? It didn't hurt much but it did sting. Does it get any better?
You guys are so brave doing all this. I feel like such a chicken. I cry at every hurdle.

Hey @swirls3468 great to hear! My advice is to get an ice cube and wrap in tissue... Place on the area for 10 mins before you Inject. It will be painless! Your resilience will build up over time... There are more hurdles to come and you get stronger with every one resilience is a great thing xxx

@swirls3468 congratulations! And you’ve done the hardest one! The first ones the worst and they’ll get easier every time now until you don’t bat an eyelid anymore. It’ll all be worth it xx

Hey so I've had my call... 17 eggs collected, 16 were mature. 13 fertilised but 2 were abnormal.
So I've got 11 fertilised so far. It's a bugger drop off than the last cycle.. Does that sound OK to everyone? I don't really mind, as long as I get an embryo this time round! Xx

@Rachae I had 17 eggs, 13 mature, 11 fertilised but 1 fizzled out basically right away I think so they actually told me 10. Then on day 5 they told me all 10 had been biopsied and frozen which was a total shock but a very nice surprise. I’m testing for a 50:50 condition and so 6 of those 10 were suitable to be used so I was great full for the extra boost to go through that step. 11 fertilised is a great number! Take things one step at a time

@Rachae they’re fantastic numbers fingers crossed for the next five days

I’ve had a bit of brown spotting when I wiped this morning, not cramping, but obviously still a bit worried. Spoke to the EPU and they’re not concerned just want me to keep an eye out for any more spotting. Fingers crossed it’s all ok, what a rollercoaster!

@swirls3468 well done! If you’re struggling with the injections you can buy numbing cream from Boots counter for like £5 a tube and I could get 7-9 injections from each one. I never did one without to know whether they hurt but the psychological boost it gave me was worth the money alone

@Mancbear88 I know you’ll be going out of your mind and I would be as well, but it’s really common to happen. I know it will give you no comfort whatsoever, but it really is very common in early pregnancy

@ThePurpleFairy thank you - everything I’ve read said one off brown blood is ok. Just wish we could know everything will be ok. It’s a proper rollercoaster!

@Mancbear88 I’m 6 weeks tomorrow and anxiously waiting my scan next week. Have had brown discharge for a week now =( everyone says it’s normal but just doesn’t feel it. My Hcg bloods were 1000 on OTD so I thought that would make me feel safer but it doesn’t. How far along are you?