Sept IVF/FET Part 3

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Keep talking! xx

History is repeating itself with my lining, it's not where it should be but it is growing. They've upped me to 12mg, whereas I was on 6mg (secretly taking 8mg most days but I can't tell the clinic that). Wahhhh! Sorry to moan to you all, nobody on the Oct thread is doing a FET. Why can't I even get to transfer stage :( they don't seem to want to to have patches as I've mentioned them a few times, and the nurse was very against me taking progynova vaginally (I've done a couple this way (ssh) but her reaction was as if it would kill me!)

Hey guys... sorry for the silence. I went for my viability scan today.

I am 7wks and the CRL was 3.6mm.
I’m worried as she said heart rate was slow and it’s small. They want me to return next week. @Heidi37 have you had your first scan yet?
Has anyone else had a small measurement and things be ok? I’m not too hopeful tbh.

UncleBrynsfishingtrip I wish you all the luck in the world I have my scan in a few hours ! I know exactly how you feel hun .😭 unfortunately I don’t have any symptoms except the heart burn but I’m sure that’s because I’m not taking my daily nexium . What did your doctor say ?

@UncleBrynsfishingtrip what was bubs heart rate ? I honestly feel ur pain . Preys to us 🙏🏻

@ivfjourney5 just wanted to comment as mine was always like that, but I've always managed to get to transfer, & got BFP in feb (but sadly miscarried. what was your actual lining?

For my round I've just had I was upped to 14mg of estrodil from 10mg (all tablets split throughout the day so I took 3,3,3,3,2) and I've always had 3 x 200mg of progynova pessaries vaginally all at night (this is the same as when we transferred to my friend as a surrogate in 2017 for FET a day 3 which got our son).

6mg sounds very low. Are you on anything else?? My clinic used to do patches for when we did the transfer to my friend in 2017 but for both my rounds (first one started nov 2019 they haven't done patches since 2020 as they think just the tablets are better, but when doing a fully down regulated cycle they also use a time releasing hormone thing that sits under the stomach skin? Sorry to be vague on that it was last dec (though I might have it again this time).

I also drank a glass of pomegranate juice everyday which they advised as it's good for blood flow, & I walk my dogs a lot & still exercise by doing Pilates.

Oh @ivfjourney5 I’m sorry to hear that. Hopefully there’s still time for it to get where it needs to be. What day are you? I don’t blame you for upping the dose yourself. Odd why they’d be against having it vaginally when so many others on here have.

@UncleBrynsfishingtrip what day was your transfer again? I thought we were roughly the same at 6 weeks so maybe it’s just that the dates are out a bit? One of my bubs has a slow heart rate too and the other no heartbeat. Just hoping it’s too early for us and it picks up! I had a really long cry today then slept for about 3 hours. Hope you’re okay it’s so hard the waiting xx

@Minster2012 thanks! It was only 5.5! They've said they will transfer if I can get to 7. 6mg is the standard dose for my clinic, with nothing else. Last month they upped me to 8mg the last few days which did absolutely nothing and it got cancelled, this time they've upped me to 12mg which I thought was the the max dose. I've heard before that patches are good but they won't seem to give them to me, so it's interesting that your clinic now think just tablets are better. I've been taking pom juice and a variety of vitamins and supplements from day 1. I'm off to research if esteodil is similar to progynova (probably just a different brand but I'll check) as your dose was quite high and gives me a bit of hope that I might get there eventually if I drown myself in tablets (p.s that is a joke, I won't go completely against the clinics recommended dose!)

@Heidi37 they didn’t give me the heart rate. She just said it was slower than she’d hoped for this stage.

@JandL2020 My transfer was on 14th Sept.

Let’s hope next week whizzes round quickly for us all xxx

@JandL2020 so sorry to hear one has no heartbeat. Are you having another scan next week? Sending you big virtual hugs 🤗 xxxx

Sorry @AutumnHoping I didn't refresh so missed your comment. I'm on day 11 today, so hopefully I can catch up. They originally wanted day 14/15 as my first scan but I pushed hard for an earlier one, and it's a good job that I did! I know so strange about vaginally, I just brushed off that I made the comment after her reaction, I was like oh you know what people are like about googling things that might help...

@UncleBrynsfishingtrip you wouldn’t be 7 weeks then, we transferred on the same day and I was measuring 6 weeks (they didn’t say + whatever days) but said the measurements were fine at this stage, so it’s very possible you’re not 7 weeks and the heart was just getting started (that’s what I’m holding onto). Yeah I have a scan next Thursday - booked in as last patient so no one else will be there if it’s bad news (think they are expecting it will be so booked it for then) xx

That sounds promising @ivfjourney5 and still time for the extra drugs to kick in. I was 6mm at my first scan on day 13 and was upped to 8mg and it was thick enough by day 16. Started progesterone on day 17.

@JandL2020 @UncleBrynsfishingtrip I’m so confused now I had my transfer the 15th of September and I also think I’m 7 weeks but my scan isn’t till next Thursday. How are you guys working it all out?

Had my 6 week scan today and it went well, measuring 3mm and seen a heartbeat it was the tiniest thing, they didn’t mention anything to me about the heart rate though.

I’ve also been feeling absolutely dreadful today, everything I try to eat is making me feel sick, I’ve pretty much lay on the sofa all day.

I had my transfer on 21st Sept and I’m 6+2 today and they have given me due date of 9th June

@Alexm06 online calculator - although shows different results as to whether you put in fresh own eggs or 5 day transfer. Confusing I must say. The clinic didn’t say say it was behind on measurements but I guess I’ll definitely know by next week as will be more than 7 weeks (+4). X

Thanks so much for your advice guys. I’ll cling onto the hope the dates are wrong from the clinic.
They told me today I’m 7wk + 1 however I’m now thinking @JandL2020 I must be the same as you. Really odd that they can get the dates wrong but I hope they have in a way!!!!!

@JandL2020 god yeah so confusing. What’s the difference between fresh own eggs and a 5 day transfer. Wouldn’t it be the same if you used your own fresh eggs and had a 5 day transfer? Ha yeah I guess we will both find out next week x

@ivfjourney5 mine was 5.5mm (day 11) when I randomly had the bleed the day after for 2.5 days then they said they were thinking of cancelling my round, but I had a scan booked for the following week so they said actually up the dose from 10mg to 14mg & the following week my lining was 7.9mm which was the best it had ever been so transfer went ahead the week after.

The tablet is called zumenon estradiol in 1mg each tablet then the progesterone 200mg pessaries started week before transfer

@UncleBrynsfishingtrip @Alexm06 now
I’m thinking I’m wrong after doing a few more online calculations. It’s calculated from day of egg retrieval not transfer. But there is a 5 day frozen embryo option as well. The consultant asked me how many weeks I was - he never asked when my transfer date was or anything, so I just said I’m 6 weeks and 3 days which I don’t think is correct. Arghh what a rollercoaster 🎢 Xx

I’ve just realised also when I rang to book my scan they said you’re be 6 1/2 weeks so I also went by what they said on the phone! X

@UncleBrynsfishingtrip
@JandL2020
@JenniferRo28
@Alexm06
@Heidi37
For those of you thinking of dates and it being confusing and using the online calculator let me say about our experience last time & for our son previously.

We had this same thing about the dates we thought (as in we looked online & worked out due date) but our clinic said a different date. They said no you are (a week behind). I was on a thread like this & a lady transferred same day, same 5 day embryo & was told the due date of the online calculator. So confused. Our clinic does scans 3 weeks after testing (which is full 2 weeks after transfer) by which time they say you will be definitely 7 weeks but in actual fact you should be around 8 weeks depending on if day 5 embryo and what point of the week the scan is (like Thursday/Friday)

It was the same for our son in 2017 but by the time we reached the 12 week scan (dating scan) the dates matched the online calculator nearly exactly & he was born a day overdue

Our clinic seem very cautious in the dates /scans others not so. Maybe have a look at that.

@Minster2012 I think that’s the same as my clinic as yeah just working out the dates 3 weeks after test date is 2 days before my scan date so I’m guessing my calculations are on track? God they really should make it easier to work out haha

Just an update guys , I lost the baby no heart beat 😭