November IVF/FET

[BambiOnIce80]

... Too soon?! 😁😉

Been waiting on a FET since we were put on July's list and I've heard from our clinic this week that I've to call them when AF rocks up in October for a November FET. We had our fresh cycle in January, had a BFP, but found there was no heartbeat at the 11 week scan in March (MMC) - it's been a bit of a roller-coaster so far this year (as if covid craziness wasn't enough!).

Found having a thread to go through it all with a massive emotional support, so looking for some MN buddies to do it all again with. Good luck ladies and looking forward to 'meeting' you 🍀🙂

I am sorry @unknownscot and @Gardenlady543. There is just nothing to say to make it better. Cry as much as you need and just do what you feel you need to do.

@BonTon no I didn't have any diarrhoea but that said I think people get lots of different symptoms. No harm checking with the nurses but I'm sure things are okay 😊

I'm good thank you. Had some more small amounts of spotting yesterday but seems to have settled again. Just focusing on getting to the scan on the 23rd - can't think beyond that at the moment! I found TWW was actually okay until the last few days, which were rather tough. Hiding any tests or not buying any might not be a bad idea!

Good luck again for tomorrow @BambiOnIce80 🤞🤞🤞

@unknownscot oh darling 😢 you're very entitled to grieve, you've had a loss as @Gardenlady543 has said. What you're feeling is normal so please don't let anyone at all think you're not entitled to find it tough. Do your clinic offer counselling? I got myself in a very dark place after my latest cancelled cycle and I booked myself a counselling appointment and it really helps even though I'm generally not a person that does much talking. Please never feel like you are alone, that's why places like this are here to speak to others that have also gone through it and feel similar, and pick each other up in the hard times 💐❤️

@BonTon I've had some weird side effects from the progesterone, hopefully the 💩 subsides for you soon. Yes I tested again this morning and the line was just as faint... I know it's still early but I've started worrying about ectopic. I've also started spotting tonight which I know could be both good or bad, this journey is such a mind f**k! Ooh is your clinic literally asked you to test on 14dp, it's so strange how everywhere is different! Absolutely great news on the progesterone. Have you got a relaxing morning planned?

Morning everyone, I am back again. After miscarriage in August. I am on FET day 11 at the moment and I got negative pregnancy test this morning. Two blast embryos was transferred on 28th Nov. Let's hope 3 days later there is a magic

Thanks for thinking of me ladies 💖 The blood result is back and it's dropped from 35IU to 7IU, so at least we know where we are now. I don't think I could've taken another week of limbo! The last 24 hours have been tough, but I feel eerily calm now. I'll be saying goodbye to pessary gunk and hello to gin and tonic! The nurse reckons we should be on track for our next FET in March/April, so not to take the covid jab for now. I'm going to double check we're definitely on the list next week when I go back for more bloods (they want to make sure the hCG goes down to

@BambiOnIce80 I'm so sorry - X

I’m so sorry to hear @BambiOnIce80 ! I really admire your tenacity and willpower! With strength like yours I know you will fall pregnant! Why so long for March/April for the next FET? X

Thanks @unknownscot @ChicaXS ❤️ My clinic is NHS, so that's just what the wait is like at the moment with covid and social distancing measures. To be honest, a few months to just be me and not have to think about it too much might do me some good. I say this now - I bet I get to February and start moaning about the wait! 🤦🏻‍♀️

I’m so sorry @BambiOnIce80. Enjoy those gin and tonics, you deserve them xxxxx

@BambiOnIce80
No words can help - but I agree some time to reflect and get ready to go again may be what you need.
It's so hard to know. There's no right or wrong decision in all of this.

I've contacted the clinic today to organise our review meeting as my husband goes off shore again soon and we both want to be available for the review.

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Oh @BambiOnIce80 I am so sorry, you have offered me so much support and I know others will feel the same, so this is just so sad to hear. Sending you so many hugs, give yourself as much time as you need to heal ❤️

Thanks @BonTon @unknownscot @Gardenlady543 ❤️ I'm feeling more and more OK about it (well, until the early loss bleed kicks in - not looking forward to that 😣). The clinic's coordinator has just called me to book us in for our review with the consultant next Thursday (pretty surprised at how quick that is 😯) and to confirm that she's just booked me in to ring them with March's period 👍 She also said to give her a call at the beginning of January to see if she's had any cancellations, so there is a small chance we might get to go again sooner - we'll see 🔮

@BambiOnIce80 are you going to try naturally inbetween? I was uming and ahing as I will be doing FET every 2 months and wasn’t sure if my body would be working properly or support a pregnancy inbetween. But my friend has said I should definitely try naturally inbetween FET cycles, so I’m going to try that this month. Hopefully the time will fly and it will soon be time for the next cycle. It’s good that you have the review a week on Thursday, that’s when I’m speaking to my specialist as well

Ahhhh, we can compare notes next Thursday then @Gardenlady543! 😉 We'll definitely be doing sex in between but not TTC, if you see what I mean?! Given that I've never so much as had a sniff of a BFP unless I've been doing IVF/FET, I suspect that my 'unexplained primary infertility' might be a sperm meets egg issue 🤔Maybe I have anti-sperm antibodies? Maybe my vagina is just toxic?! Who knows?! 😂

@BambiOnIce80 I think having sex but not TTC is a great idea! Everyone always says that’s when it happens. I think it will be nice to try knowing the next FET is coming as a back up. I told my friend I felt like I shouldn’t try naturally as I wanted to get my moneys worth from the access fertility package. She said that the 8 frozen embryos I’ve got is worth the cost!

I'm so sorry @BambiOnIce80 😢 G&Ts thoroughly required and deserved - enjoy. I'm glad you are okay, and it is great you have an appointment next week to discuss, and a timeline in place (albeit more waiting) 🤗

Hi folks, it’s been a while since I posted, lots to catch up on. I’ve been feeling a bit overwhelmed since the weekend, so although I’ve been reading everyone’s news, I didn’t manage to reply. I’m sorry to hear there’s been bad news for people. This journey is so tough, and everyone going through this has such strength and resilience.

@BambiOnIce80 I’m so sad to hear your beta results, I had everything crossed for you. You’ve been such a support on this thread, and such a great attitude. Enjoy that G&T tonight, and look forword to better luck in 2021 xx. Oh god just got to ‘toxic vagina’ 😂 Thanks for making me laugh on a fairly bleak day!!

@Gardenlady543 I’m sorry to hear it hasn’t been progressing as you hoped. I hope you can get in the fact you have so many higher rated embryos in waiting xx

@McGee123 @SpyroC @TheGlitterFairy I hope you’re feeling positive, healthy and happy :). Great news on the scan SpyroC!

Congrats on having the emby onboard @BonTon! And great progesterone levels too :)

@unknownscot I’m so sorry to hear it didn’t work for you :( I’m in the same boat right now. It’s so hard to think about what’s next, or even to grieve properly right now. I’m finding it tough too.

@ivfjourney5 - yay on the BFP - I’d say that’s a strong line for such an early test!!

It’s my OTD today - BFN as expected. It wasn’t a surprise, but I’m still feeling pretty devastated. More than I expected tbh. (I’m usually pretty good at starting to focus on the next thing instead). Two fails, both with likely implantation bleeding on 6dp5dt, not a whiff of a second line anywhere. All this time we thought it was just MFI to deal with - but maybe I have issues too. Or just too old.

That was my last NHS round. So I’d need to find a new clinic etc. Which is quite a thought in it’s own right!

And have to decide whether to throw everything at a private fresh round before my next FET - whilst my eggs are slightly less aged. Or cut my losses. I think OH would be happy to just get a dog (!) But I just can’t give up hope of becoming a mother just yet.

Great progesterone level
@BonTon that's reassuring

I'm so sorry @BambiOnIce80 . I was really hoping you'd get good news today. The limbo is so awful. At least you can now grieve and move on instead of wandering. That is fast for your next appointment. Mine was 2-3 weeks after my limbo cycle and I'm not sure I'd fully absorbed what had happened so push it back if you need more time, though it is nice to feel like a plan is in place. Please take of yourself.

I'm so sorry @Lepatz please look after yourself. It sounds as though you have a difficult choice to make regarding your next steps. If you have a consultant that you feel is fully clued up and that you can trust perhaps see what they suggest.

@Lepatz I’m sorry to hear this ❤️ I hope you are ok, you mentioned before your next FET, do you still have a FET left on the NHS? I don’t know how the NHS works as I’m private. If all sounds very unlucky, I hope you can try again.

Hi all.

Been catching up on all thats been happening.

Sorry @BambiOnIce80, @Lepatz and @Gardenlady543to hear your news. Hopefully you can all have some time to process and prepare for the next step.
I have our review meeting in 2 weeks so trying to 'study' for that so i can get the most out of lol im hoping we can try again in jan/feb but guess it will be up to the clinic.
I turn a year older in feb which is bumming me out quite a bit given fertility is related to age, so would really like to befpre then. (Even tho i know a few months later will make no difference)
Can i ask, have any of you ladies other children?

@BambiOnIce80 so so sorry to hear your blood results today. This process is so hard and there are so many times where you need to dig deep for reserves to carry on and persevere. And I've a feeling that you'll be doing just that and be ready to go again as soon as you're able to. It's good you're able to have a review meeting next week - and that they're lining you up for March too. Hopefully they'll be able to get you in before then too. 🙏 In the meantime, I hope you're able to enjoy some time over Christmas and most definitely with the G&Ts too. Hope your DH is doing ok with all of this too -hard on the guys too I think.
Give me a shout anytime if you want to talk through anything - having had so many rounds and cancellations, I know how it feels and happy to share any experience if it can help others 😘 take care and stay strong 💪😘😘😘😘

@Lepatz and @Geep so sorry to hear your news today too - so hard to go through and take all the time you need to process this round before dusting yourself off and moving forward however that manifests itself.

@Lepatz funny you mention about a dog. We got a cat a couple of years ago after our first round and transfer failed. She was just the tonic we both needed and was a wonderful addition to our family of me and DH!! It might not be the worst thing to do if you're able to! Clearly not the same but a good distraction!!

@Geep no children as yet for me. Just a furry cat whom I adore 😻!!!

Hi @Lepatz I’m so sorry to hear about your BFN but your a trooper and will pull through. Is your FET with the NHS? If so use it before the fresh round of the queue is light? Going private will speed things up so much ! A few months won’t make a difference so don’t worry x

@Geep I don’t have any children, I’ve never had a positive pregnancy test, so I have no evidence as to if I can get pregnant at all. I joined the Jan/Feb IVF support group thread, you should come and say hello in the thread if you’re looking at Jan/Feb?

From chatting with the ladies in there I’ve got lots of info about early bleeds, so I can focus on that and ask what the clinic plan to do to monitor my progesterone in the FET cycle when I speak with the specialist next week.

Hi @Gardenlady543, thanks ill join the jan/feb chat. Any advice on what to question or ask for at the review will be great. I also bled early (6do5dt) so will be good to see what others say. Im assuming my review will focus on getting more mature eggs ( we have none frozen so having to do a fresh cycle again)
Im sure its so hard never having a postive, but hopefully at your review they will be able to tweak your treatment plan and youll get a positive outcome. Im sure you've mentioned before but was this your first cycle? Your next is a FET, yes?
Im think im finding the unknown the most difficult part of all this. The unknown reason why it doesnt work when all aspects look good. I guess luck plays a big part.

For me, the unknown reason of why i was able to get pregnant with my first child (whom im very grateful for) on the first month of trying but now can't is particularly hard to accept. While i have now discovered i have a underactive thyroid, it is being medically managed so surely shouldnt be the reason i cant conceive. I guess all we can do is wait until the next cycle and hope for a successful outcome (oh and enjoy a few G&Ts in the mean time).

@geep you’re right, this was my first cycle having not had any BFP when trying naturally. This fresh cycle was complicated by a rash that meant the worst graded embryo was transplanted, this still had a 36% chance of a live birth though. I think the best graded embryo had a 46% chance and is nicely snuggled up in the freezer as we speak! I’ll be having a chat about PGT-A testing and the costs and timescale given that my embryos are now frozen, this is mostly advised for people who have a lot of embryos, to help choose the best one.

From the bleeding perspective, I will be asking for a progesterone level the day before transfer and also monitoring during the 2ww, I’m with access fertility, who may cover this. But I don’t mind paying if I need to. I know this is done almost daily at more specialized clinics and one I looked at chargeS £40 for each test, so I’m hoping it will be a similar cost at my clinic if I need to pay.

I will also be talking about the cost of meds as I’ve seen people speak about getting a prescription for £50 and then getting the drugs which are sold without profit from the ASDA pharmacy.

I agree about the unknown factors, everything looks normal in me and my husband, which makes me consider whether there an immunological issue prevent implantation. But I don’t think this will be considered until several implantation attempts have been unsuccessful. With you having a child already this is reassuring.

I wish I could help more with advice as to how to get more eggs, I think it will probably come down to the protocol though and I’m sure your specialist will have some good advice about this.