November IVF/FET

[BambiOnIce80]

... Too soon?! 😁😉

Been waiting on a FET since we were put on July's list and I've heard from our clinic this week that I've to call them when AF rocks up in October for a November FET. We had our fresh cycle in January, had a BFP, but found there was no heartbeat at the 11 week scan in March (MMC) - it's been a bit of a roller-coaster so far this year (as if covid craziness wasn't enough!).

Found having a thread to go through it all with a massive emotional support, so looking for some MN buddies to do it all again with. Good luck ladies and looking forward to 'meeting' you 🍀🙂

Sorry to hear that @Geep 😢

@ivfjourney5 good luck with transfer today xx

@Geep really sorry to hear that, do you have a plan for the next step?

I tested myself this morning with the cheap poundland tests at 5dp5dt And I got a negative, I know super early and it’s 6 days before hcg is made, but saw some people who had got an early BFP so thought I’d give it a try. Getting quite convinced that I have a uterus that just doesn’t let implantation happen because with such good quality eggs, there has to be some reason that things have never happened.

@Gardenlady543 still early days so ypu may well still get your bfp. Fingers crossed.
I called the clinic today to update them and see if i continue with the progesterone gel. Theyve said if i can continue until my OTD itll do no harm. And while they said bleeding doesnt always mean it hasnt worked, on this occassion shes agreed that it didn't sount promising.

Next steps once the test confirms it had failed is the clinic review my case and they have a review meeting with me. At the moment, it would be the end of dec/start of Jan before i could get a review meeting. They also like to wait at least a couple of months before trying again - so that would mean restarting in jan/feb time i think. Just have to wait and see i guess. At least i have christmas in the middle of it and a very excited 4year old to help keep me busy and keep my mind of it (well keep my mind of it a little).

@geep oh that’s good, that you can focus on Xmas with your kiddie over the next few weeks. Have you got any frozen embryos or will you be starting a new fresh cycle?

If this is a no go for me (I know I’m not there at this point, but I just have a feeling) I’ll be looking at January with a FET as well, as long as all things go well with the rash investigations. My gp has said the immunology team should be in touch about when they can see me by the end of the week.

@Gardenlady543 unfortunatley we have none frozen (10 eggs collected but only 3 were mature and only 1 fertilised) so will be starting a fresh in the new year. The embryologist has already said they will tweak things and prob do more blood testing to try and get more mature eggs next time.
While i hope you dont need the FET in january i think its goods to have a plan in place. Ive found knowing what will happen next has helped a bit. Obviouy im still devastated it didn't work this time but can focus on the next phase. Hopefully the clinic get to the bottom of the rash so it doesnt happen again

@Geep I can imagine you’re really upset right now, I’ve found this whole process to be such a rollercoaster, the lows can be real lows and I think it’s so important to take time to recover, but also to have a future plan in place. So that when ready we are able to dust ourselves off and power through!!

And you’re right, so much information is learned by just trying this process, things can be tweaked from experience. They could perhaps consider ICSI to get a better yield from the mature eggs next time as well? Lots of things to discuss at the review I reckon, but for now I hope you can throw yourself into some amazing Xmas celebrations!

@Geep I'm sorry to hear about the bleeding :( It's gutting when there's so much effort and thinking about this whole process, and then it comes to nothing. Though, like they said, bleeding doesn't always mean out... Glad to hear you can take your mind off it with Christmas and excitable kiddie - and fingers crossed for a smooth ride next year xx

@Gardenlady543 5dp is early to get a positive. Particularly with a cheapie test.

I'm 8dp today, and ordered a couple of frer tests online. But they won't be here til tomorrow, so looking like a Thursday test for me... No more pink here, which I think is a good sign - thanks for telling me about your 6dp implantation bleed @SpyroC - it's given me some hope :)

More night sweats last night. But it could be my weighted blanket ;D Was awake for about three hours in the middle of the night too, today is not feeling like a good work day, and I have lots of client meetings, bleurgh.

@BambiOnIce80 Your non FDA approved cat story made me smile. It was a symptom I hadn't even thought to spot haha!

@PineappleC Thanks for the sage words re different journeys every time. It was a good perspective check for me. Feeling much calmer today :) Hope London camp out is going ok. At least there will be some more things open tomorrow!

Thanks @BonTon Although it's already been a shit start to the day, they’ve rang and given me my time for this afternoon, and then she casually said ‘oh you know you need to come alone’ 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 My husband bloody drove 6 hours yesterday to get home just for this appointment. She said that somebody should of told me before now. The last I knew was that this is the only appointment that partners were allowed in for. So frustrating!

@ivfjourney5 my clinic doesn’t let partners in for ET either, to be honest I preferred it that way. The specialist let my husband come in to support me when we spoke about whether the transfer could go ahead or not. The receptionist then said she was so
glad I sent him out to the car before the ET as she dreads doing it. The nurses were really supportive though and it really was fine.

Extremely annoying that they didn’t tell you until after he’d travelled though!!

@Lepatz is 8 days post transfer a good date to check? I’m in a fresh cycle and that will fall on Friday for me. While I’ve been telling everyone else to try and hold off until OTD, it’s easier said than done. To be honest I would rather think it hasn’t worked, go about my week normally while waiting for OTD, than continuously watching my embryo video and getting attached to if only to be utterly disappointed next week.

@Gardenlady543 From what I've read, I think for a 5dt you should have a pretty reliable result by 8dp. And it looks like a few people on this thread have their OTD as early as 9dp. I truly have no idea why there's such difference between clinics for this.

This cycle I planned to test from 6dp. I did do one test then, which was white... but maybe had the faintest shadow of wishful thinking :) And I decided I would rather hold off to a more reliable date (9 or 10 dp). My previous thinking is that I would rather know if it implanted and failed - or didn't even get to that point. But now I'm in the middle of it, I'm happy just to distract myself with work rather than have the stress of daily testing.

I guess you never can be completely sure until you get AF, or get to OTD. But if I'm negative later this week, I'll count myself as pretty much out.

@ivfjourney5 Good luck with your transfer today. So annoying that OHs are not allowed in - it's such a weird process, and not very romantic (lol). So it would really help if at least they could hold our hands during the transfer :)

@Lepatz ah thanks for letting me know, I’ll try and hold out until 8 days then :)

I'm so sorry to hear that AF seems to be with you @Geep 💐 It sounds like you've got a good clinic there though with a plan in place for next steps to take comfort from.x

5dp5dt is super early to test @Gardenlady543, although it does at least tell you that there's no trigger left. My clinic OTD is at 9dp5dt, but that's because it's a blood test. They can comment from the hCG level on whether it's negative (5 - 25 IU) or positive (>25 IU). They don't recommend a urine test at that point because it won't be at as higher level as in the blood. A FRER will probably pick it up, but then it could also pick up a chemical pregnancy. Some people would rather know regardless, which I totally understand. I'm debating myself whether to test tomorrow so as to prepare myself for the worst on Thursday, but A) I've seen enough BFN's glaring back at me to last a life time and have no desire to see another and B) I think I'd rather stay in my admittedly shaky! pupo bubble for one more precious day. It's such a personal thing. Good luck with whenever you decide to test 🍀

I'm glad to hear you've had no more pink @Lepatz 🤞🍀 I was up between 3am and 6am too... bloody progesterone! 🤦🏻‍♀️ Very glad I'm on annual leave, just for this flipping side effect! 😴 I was thinking I've wasted annual leave if it's a BFN on Thursday, but at least it's allowed me to have lots of lay-ins! 😂

Good luck this afternoon @ivfjourney5! 🍀🍀🍀 I hope your lining has caught up 🤞🤞🤞 So sorry that your DP isn't allowed in though 😔 It was the same with mine 😏

7dp5dt here and the cat still doesn't think I smell interesting 🙄 I'm beginning to feel less despondent about it though, after feeling like my pupo bubble had been burst yesterday. Che sera sera 🔮

I’ve come over as unbelievably cold in the last few hours. I’m hoping that could be a sign. I mean I am always a bit cold, but I don’t feel able to come out from under a blanket right now.

I'm over my hissy fit and I'm PUPO 🎉🎉🎉 I feel like it's such an achievement after my fresh transfer was cancelled, and two frozen cycles have been cancelled. Even though the consultant wanted to cancel this cycle as well because my lining was too thin and I have fluid in my cavity, the nurse said today she couldn't see the fluid and my lining looked a good thickness!!!! I'm sooo glad I went against their advise and had my transfer! Ladies you must trust your own body and your gut!
I'll catch up on the thread later when my husband leaves to do his 6 hour drive back to his job 😢 I feel so sorry for him coming all this way to sit in the hospital car park 😭😭

@ivfjourney5 oh yay that’s such a result!! So glad to hear the scan looked good during the ET!! Welcome to the 2ww club!!

I had my scan this afternoon and by some
Miracle the follicle is still there, I can't believe it I was expecting the worst so looks like I will be having my transfer this month. So back for a scan to check again tomorrow, I mean how much longer can it possibly stay there? 🤷🏽‍♀️

@Geep I’m so sorry AF seems to have started but glad you have a plan for next steps x

@BambiOnIce80 I can still can go ahead next week which is great it’s just the Tuesday you need to dodge, I feel really grateful that I still have a chance this month. Try not to read too much into the cat and see what happens on OTD, I know it must be so hard to not look into everything

@ChicaXS you are right it’s so frustrating that something like this can get in the way because the clinic is shut, they did warm me of this when I told them I wanted a nature so cycle but I thought I’d be really unlucky for it to fall on that day and it almost did.

@PineappleC I think you were right about the clear blue OPKs as I’m still waiting 🙄im glad you’ve settled in London for a while as that will take some of the stress off. Has your transfer day been booked yet? What’s your next steps?

@ivfjourney5 congratulations on being PUPO 🎉 such a shame your partner drive all that way to sit in the car park 😢

@Melissa1983 that’s good news that you’ve missed the dreaded Tuesday!

@Geep so sorry to hear this - it sounds as though you have a good plan in place for the new year and hopefully will be able to enjoy Christmas in the meantime.

@ivfjourney5 congratulations on being pupo!!!! Agreed - it's a huge achievement to even get to that point and I very much felt the same! So sorry to hear about poor DH having to sit in the car park - but - at least he was able to be there for you before and after and I'm sure was happy he was able to provide the support that you needed by being there when you came out of the clinic.

@BambiOnIce80 cats are fickle creatures aren't they!!! Stay strong and hold out til Thursday if you can!!! At least it'll be conclusive whereas testing before hand is not necessarily so (easy for me to say though of course!)

Sorry to those ladies I've not called out - hope everyone is doing well and managing to stay busy while time passes for the next part of the journey x

@ivfjourney5 Congratulations on transfer 🥰

I think it's really bad your husband wasn't allowed in. My sister came with me and I'm in a level 4 (Scotland) area. It's funny the clinics differ so much in so many ways.
But hey, you've had your transfer and that's all that matters 🤞🏼
When is your test date? Is it at home or bloods in the clinic?

@BambiOnIce80 I'm the same as you, bloods in the clinic and no home test. I'm dreading that wait from the bloods in the morning to the afternoon call 🙈

Congratulations on being pupo @ivfjourney5!! 🤩🥳🤩🥳 And fantastic news about your lining! 😃 Shows you've got a good'un there that he's doing a 12 hour round trip to be there for you 🥰

Oooh, fantastic news for you too @Melissa1983! 😃 So glad that your follicle hasn't collapsed yet and you can get a transfer next week 🍀

I think mine is the ficklest of the lot @TheGlitterFairy! 😼 I still can't make sense of how he could smell something different about me last time but not this time without it being a BFN looming, but at least I'm more prepared for it, I guess 😏 Very much feeling like AF is looming tonight - sort of bearly there crampy/heavy feeling that I normally get pre-AF. I'm still tempted to test tomorrow to get it out of the way, shed some tears and get my head straight, but I probably won't. May as well wait now I've gotten this far. How are you doing? Not long until your scan next week 🍀

I'm wondering if it's a Scottish thing that the clinics prefer a blood test here @unknownscot 🧪🤔 Clearly not a universal policy on the partners thing though as DP wasn't allowed in with me (level 3), but at least he'll be with me at home when I call for the result on Thursday🔮

@BambiOnIce80 @unknownscot that phone call sounds stressful, I would have to try a urine test to know a bit about where I’m at beforehand!

@Geep I am so sorry to hear about the BFN, stay strong look ahead and be kind to yourself. Have your favourite takeaway, cake and some drinks and focus on next year. You WILL get pregnant!
@ivfjourney5 welcome to the PUPO club lovely! I’m so so glad too you pushed for it, I totally agreed with you! Here’s to celebrations being PUPO and I have my fingers crossed for you! When is your OTD? That sucks about your husbands wait but hey at least he was waiting for you!
@Melissa1983 yay I’m happy for you! So does that mean the transfer is now Monday or Tuesday? X

Congratulations on being pupo and having a great lining @ivfjourney5 you were right to push on! We really do have to be our own advocates in this game! Xx

Stay strong @BambiOnIce80 💪🏻. Early testing is a personal choice I didn't for rounds 1&3 but did on round 2 as it was so obviously a bfn and my mental health was struggling, I just wanted it to be over. However , even that was a mess as I thought my very faint positive that came up after 10 minutes on a standard CB test was an evap line but then on otd I had another late very faint bfp but this time on a pink dye test(cue DH digging the CB one out of the bin). This taught me to only ever do test number 1 with a FRER! This is why I had 3 different tests of varying sensitivities this time around🙈 I think 9dp5dt is the earliest I've ever seen so I'd stick with it if you can. It's like 14dpo I guess. FRERS detect at 6miu (I think) so they will pick up a chemical too. It's good that you've reached the acceptance stage though, hopefully you don't need it! Do you have a bfn plan in place(just in case)? My meal plan definitely helped me! 😂

Who's otd is it tomorrow? I've lost track! Good luck anyway xx