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August IVF

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Mseddy · 23/06/2020 14:39

Had a quick look through but can't find an existing thread. Anyone due to cycle in August after a bit of moral support?

We are due to start our 2nd cycle of icsi for male azoospermia and my premature ovarian aging (full house for us!)

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CardboardCat · 04/09/2020 07:54

I'm so sorry @kikisparks It's just horrendous.

I've woken up to a lot of brown spotting this morning. It's the last day of holiday today, we're driving back to Reading this afternoon. If this is it then I just want to be at home.

MsNoons17 · 04/09/2020 08:17

I’m so sorry @kikisparks

kikisparks · 04/09/2020 08:39

@CardboardCat so sorry about your spotting, a worry you don’t need. I really really hope it’s implantation. Hope you have a safe journey and get home soon.

@MsNoons17 thank you

Mseddy · 04/09/2020 08:55

@kikisparks sending a big hug. Don't apologise for being negative, vent on here as much as you need. Thats what I made this thread for, support. Not just as a place to be happy if it all worked out. I'm sure it doesn't seem like it now, but you and your DH will be OK and it sounds like you are great support for eachother xx

@CardboardCat alot of people spot and bleed throughout pregnancy so try not to worry too much. I know thats a silly thing to say because I would be exactly the same! Have you done anymore tests?

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loulamay · 04/09/2020 13:20

Hi everyone, hope you're all doing ok. @kikisparks I've also been thinking about you and am sending you love. I'm so sorry that this isn't straightforward, for you or any of us!

We've got our scan on Tuesday and I'm a bag of nerves. Not helping that I have some mild cramping today and a weird pulling/stinging feeling at the top of my thighs. Going for a gentle walk in the hope that it eases.

Hope everyone is surviving! There are days when I just want to hide away from this whole process.

Bruce2 · 04/09/2020 13:52

@kikisparks this is what this thread is more, to share the highs and lows. We're all thinking about you...I can understand with the dreaming. I was 3.5 years so I can completely get where you are. It's awful. You feel like it happens for everyone except you. Let's pick you back up after the check up and get planning for next stage. It's all we can do. Keep going. Sending massive hugs and you're perfectly entitled to feel down in dumps. Cry as much as you need to.

@CardboardCat I hope your spotting doesn't lead to anything. Maybe just old blood from implantation. Keep your spirits up and safe journey back.

Bruce2 · 04/09/2020 13:56

@loulamay I'm sure that's all normal and you'll be ok for scan on Tuesday. Fingers crossed for you. Try stay occupied this weekend to take your mind off it all.
Our scan is next Thursday so we're only 2 days apart. Just going to get my head down with work and hope no bleeding/heavy cramping happens between times.
I'm still expecting them to find nothing at scan, so I understand the nerves.
I'm having a few small cramps and twinges, incredibly tired but I am working out at 6am most mornings then working straight after (from home so not that challenging) so it could be that rather than pregnancy related!

CardboardCat · 04/09/2020 14:20

@Mseddy I started testing on 6dpt and am now 9dpt, the first three tests had nice progression on FRER but today's looked the same as yesterday. I've been testing on Wondfo internet cheapies as well and haven't seen too much progression on them- still very light which worries me. Driving home I've also started cramping but the spotting seems to have stopped I think.

Thank you @kikisparks and @Bruce2 I'm feeling a lot better now. I called my boss and told her what's been happening, she's been incredibly supportive all the way through. She's covered my shifts this weekend which has really taken the pressure off. Then I had a massive cry and a Costa decaf latte. Holding on to some hope but remembering how lucky we are to have frosties. Trying to get my pragmatic head back on, if this doesn't work out then it's onto plan b, then plan c etc.

@loulamay I really hope it all goes well at your scan. Everything crossed for you Flowers

Lepatz · 04/09/2020 17:20

Hi folks

Catching up on a couple of days - we decided to go camping for a couple of nights - a break from everything, esp technology!! It has helped. Still some tensions between me and OH, but we're talking, and it's getting better :) He is nervous about having another kid - he has 2 from a previous marriage (which is partly why it took so long to diagnose MFI). Which is fair, but does mean we are having slightly different emotional journeys.

I haven't tested since the BFN on 8dp5dt. OTD is Sunday. My gut feel is it's going to be a no. It would have shown something by Monday I think... and I squinted in all lights at it!!

Saying that, I've had various boob heats and tendernesses, tired, and random twinges in my lower abdomen. I guess that could all be cyclogest. I guess I'm still holding out hope, despite how much I tell myself not to.

Hoping everyone manages to find some peace this weekend, especially those having tough times, or living with uncertainty xx

@CardboardCat Congrats on your BFP, that is wonderful news. I was so so sorry to hear about your little girl, I can't even imagine how devastating that must have been. Hope you're feeling ok today, and not worrying too much about the spotting. My sister spotted through the early days of both of her little ones (non-ivf) - I do think it's reasonably normal, though obviously scary.

@kikisparks I'm so so sorry. There is no way to prepare for this, even if you suspected it. We're here for you through all the stages and next steps xx

@loulamay thanks for the note on Wednesday - it really helps to hear other perspectives :) Not long now til the scan - and I'm pretty sure cramping is often a sign of everything starting to gear up for the long haul xx

@West2401 this has been such a rough road for you, you are in my thoughts x

@MrsT36 How many dpt were you were you had the spotting? I read a study last week that says that ideally implantation should happen 2-4 days after transfer (for a 5 dayer). If it happens after 7dp, it's more likely to be an early loss. (I spotted on 7dp this time, so that wasn't good news for me.) Symptom spotting was driving me crazy earlier this week!

nextweek · 05/09/2020 09:25

Hi, I've got a bit of a strange question...my OTD is tomorrow (absolutely terrified!) I know its advised to use FMU but most nights I have to get up during the night to use the bathroom so wasn't sure if that would effect things in regard to 'strength' of the result? I've no idea how close to morning it is that I get up to go as I'm only half awake and don't check the time!

loulamay · 05/09/2020 09:27

@nextweek I wondered this too. If you are awake enough, can you collect some in a cup from your night/early morning wee? I did that, then took FMU as well (the one when I woke up at a more normal time) and tested both. Am I a lunatic?!

nextweek · 05/09/2020 09:35

@loulamay that's not a bad idea, although my husband will think I'm nuts! The clinic gave me a test to use, but I was going to buy a couple extras in case i did it wrong so could do more than one test

Lepatz · 05/09/2020 09:50

@nextweek me too - OTD buddies :) I read somewhere that second morning urine can be just as effective- as long as you don't drink in between and it's at least a couple of hours. By 14dp it shouldn't make too much difference anyway - there should be enough hcg to show up at any time of day :)

kikisparks · 05/09/2020 10:05

@nextweek I think that could affect it- when I was testing I had nothing to drink after 8pm, went to the loo right before bed and sometimes again just before going to sleep and then I got up and tested at 5am- my urine always looked pretty dark by then (I would have gotten up later but I was too anxious).

All the best of luck for tomorrow!

@Lepatz thank you, glad you and OH are getting along better, funnily enough we’ve been thinking about possibly going camping too! Best of luck for OTD tomorrow.

My HCG was down to 11 yesterday and the EPU are comfortable it’s not ectopic and have discharged me which is good. You have to walk past the normal maternity bit and all the ladies with bumps to get to it and I wasn’t allowed to bring DH in so it was a kind of torture having to go there but it’s done now and I’m very grateful to them for at least doing the scan and bloods and taking care of me.

I got DH to call the clinic to let them know what happened and cancel the 8 week scan they’d booked. When he said I’d been to the EPU they said I should have gone through them instead and they’d have done the blood tests and scans- which, if you’ll recall, I broke down on Monday trying to get them to do! The woman said that whoever I spoke to on Monday gave me the wrong information and I should have been given an appointment with them. I might put in a complaint as I’ve had to go round the houses with the GP twice then EPU twice when I could have just been going to the clinic which I know and am comfortable with and has no heavily pregnant women to walk past. It’s also my fault as I should have phoned back and tried again as was suggested here. Anyway, what’s done is done. Also it’s quite good that I did go to the GP as some of my pain is definitely due to a UTI and I have antibiotics for that now.

So the doctor at the clinic is going to review my file and decide if they want to see me or if they want to add any extra medication when we try again and they’ll call us back. I’m feeling less sorry for myself now and recognise that we’re incredibly lucky to have some frozen embryos one of which is reasonable/ good quality. The nurse said we need to wait until the miscarriage is over and then for me to have one normal period, then at the start of my following period I can phone up to book a FET. The booking is usually busy but if you don’t get to go the first month you phone you should get to the following month.

I’m feeling a bit better today, it’s still very hard but I can see now that I’m going to get through it. DH and I had a bit of an argument yesterday when he said I didn’t recognise his grief and I thought I was the only one in pain, and to be honest he was right, he has cried but mostly he grieves differently to me, and I was expecting him just to support me and was not doing anything in return. We had a good chat in the end about supporting each other and I think we’ll come through this stronger for it.

StayingPositive8 · 05/09/2020 10:06

Morning everyone

@Lepatz @loulamay @nextweek Best of luck for testing this weekend!! I had exactly the same thoughts when I did my test but it doesn’t make any difference. I had a wee at about 4am and then did my test at 8am. By the time you get to testing day the hcg is evident all day.

Just to say we had our scan on Thursday and all is fine and we saw the heartbeat! Sorry I know it’s been a really hard week for lots this week so didn’t want to be insensitive. But also hopeful for anyone that worries about having a bleed like I did, it doesn’t always mean the worst news.

StayingPositive8 · 05/09/2020 10:12

@kikisparks Sorry I think we posted messages at the same time. I’m so sorry for everything you have been through this week and that your clinic were so bloody unhelpful! I probably would send them an email/complaint to try and avoid that for someone else.

You seem incredibly strong and hopeful for the future. You and your DH clearly have a great relationship, and from my previous experience it certainly brought us closer with a new found understanding of how to communicate and support one another. Sending you hugs x

kikisparks · 05/09/2020 10:34

@StayingPositive8 thank you and congratulations on your scan and seeing the heartbeat! Don’t apologise, it’s not insensitive, you deserve to be happy and I’m hopeful to get to that point some day too.

Bruce2 · 05/09/2020 10:39

@StayingPositive8

Morning everyone

@Lepatz @loulamay @nextweek Best of luck for testing this weekend!! I had exactly the same thoughts when I did my test but it doesn’t make any difference. I had a wee at about 4am and then did my test at 8am. By the time you get to testing day the hcg is evident all day.

Just to say we had our scan on Thursday and all is fine and we saw the heartbeat! Sorry I know it’s been a really hard week for lots this week so didn’t want to be insensitive. But also hopeful for anyone that worries about having a bleed like I did, it doesn’t always mean the worst news.

Congratulations on seeing the heartbeat. That's wonderful news. A slight relief I'm sure! X
nextweek · 05/09/2020 11:08

@kikisparks I'm glad you're feeling better, its such a tough experience to go through, but sounds like you're coping really well. Definitely give feedback, all departments need to make sure they're giving correct information and not making a horrible situation even worse.
@StayingPositive8 congratulations on your scan, must have been so lovely to see the heartbeat.

Thanks for all the feedback, I'll try to drink a bit less this evening and test with FMU. Sending lots of luck to everyone testing tomorrow!!

MsNoons17 · 05/09/2020 11:45

That’s great news @StayingPositive8 must be a relief.

I would definitely send a complaint @kikisparks it’s such a tough thing you're going through and part of the job is to make it as easy as possible for patients.

Good luck to all testing this weekend!

I actually had a good unexpected call from the clinic yesterday. There was a cancellation so I am now having nurse consultation and baseline scan next week so looking like I can start treatment again for FET in the next couple of weeks.
Was originally looking like was going to be end of October so am chuffed as we all know the waiting throughout this whole process is horrendous!!

Custardandcream · 05/09/2020 21:00

@loulamay & @Bruce2 fingers crossed for your scans, the waiting and wondering is such hard work

@CardboardCat I really hope everything is ok with you today

@Lepatz & @nextweek good luck for tomorrow

@kikisparks please don’t blame yourself for the clinics mess, I don’t blame you for not calling back after that call! I do think it would be a good idea to put a complaint in, someone obviously needs some refresher training! You will come out the other side of this much stronger and I’m glad you have a plan xx

@StayingPositive8 That’s fantastic news congratulations!

@MsNoons17 glad you’ve got an earlier date

I’m 8dpt and I’ve been driving myself crazy with symptom spotting or lack of symptoms!

Bruce2 · 05/09/2020 21:20

@MsNoons17 that's great news! Happy for you :)

@Custardandcream thanks, I'm just imaging the worst outcome possible right now.
I'm having zero symptoms and have pretty much convinced myself it's a missed miscarriage as I should be experiencing something. That's what's worrying me the most.

CardboardCat · 05/09/2020 21:35

@Custardandcream yeah, things are a bit better today thanks. The spotting seemed to stop late last night, only a tiny bit this morning- all of it brown. I've had strange cramps as well but I hear that's normal so I'm trying not to worry too much about them. Lines are nice and dark so today I'm choosing to be hopeful.

@Lepatz Glad you and OH are talking and things are getting better. It takes such a toll on the strongest of relationships, I know me and my OH have had to have some really frank discussions about things when we aren't "getting" the other person. I think you come through it so much stronger though and ready for the challenges of parenthood with eyes wide open.

@nextweek Really good luck tomorrow, I hope you sleep well and get good news in the morning. I'll be thinking of you.

@StayingPositive8 That's absolutely fantastic news about your scan!! So happy for you. Did they give you any insight into why you had the bleed?

@Mseddy How are things going with you? Hope everything is still going strong. Any symptoms yetm My sore boobs are coming and going, I'm spending a lot of time squeezing them at the moment to see if they hurt.

@MsNoons17 That's brilliant news about the FET, glad you can get going again soon.

CardboardCat · 05/09/2020 21:39

@Bruce2 I know you're a bit ahead of me but in a previous pregnancy I had exactly the same worries as you. I would have loved to have felt morning sickness or just anything that meant I knew there was something in there but it never kicked in. Both my Mum and sister suffered with it but I'm just not a morning sickness person. It's ok to feel absolutely ok! I know it doesn't help much though and I will be feeling the same until I see proof on a scan. Hang in there, sending hugs.

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