Dec/ Jan IVF support #2

[Chooklass]

First thread is filling up fast so I thought I'd get a new one ready so we can keep on supporting each other through this crazy journey! Will post a link in old thread 😊xx

Good morning all! @Chooklass it's almost 11 and you can call them can't wait to find out!
@rainbow178 what day of stimms are you on today? I am day 7, still zero symptoms, it is killing me.
@BambiOnIce80 I am going to check out what happened at your acupuncturist, I went back to mine yesterday and there were girls chatting and laughing in the room next to me there is only a paper thin wall... I was struggling to relax as it was not just noises but I could actually hear what they were talking about - some kitchen cabinets in case you are interested, I wasn't- so when it was over she asked me how did I get on and told me the room next to hers has a massage therapist taking clients. So I asked if it's possible to schedule sessions for days or appointments they are not in and she said sure she will check next time.

I am a bit disappointed is it just me, am I being too sensitive to noises? I could not relax at all yesterday. Had I known there will be people there I would have asked for another appointment.

She bloody well wasn't last night @Chooklass! 🤣 I didn't want to rant on here and bring you guys down, but (spoiler alert ⚠) the TWW is f🤬king hard!

Our little disagreement has made me go back and look at the HFEA add-on traffic like though... and I'm still bloody right! 😜😁 I'd definitely consider embryo glue next time though from what's written on there 😉

Welcome @Parkandride 😊

@Chooklass I know how you feel I had EC Monday and had to ask them for an update before Monday so they said they'd call this afternoon so hoping for good news it's awful waiting. Glad you feel good after EC it's knocked me off my feet almost feel like I've pulled a muscle in my tummy but each day is getting better

*light! 🚦🤦‍♀️

You're not being over-sensitive @Lily999 💐 How the hell are you supposed to relax if people are yacking loudly in the next room?! 😕 Did she sort the clock out this time?! 🕒 😉

Haha yes I reminded her and she took the clock so I thought ok this time I will definitely relax like I have never relaxed before! Then... the chit chat started. Not being cheap or anything, but I am paying like £50 for an hour and I got less that 20minutes this time as she messed up the appointments and on the top of that I could not stop hearing the others so I was no as happy and relaxed after the session as I expected myself to be.
So now I am back to worrying like crazy because I still can't feel anything! I think I will go back tomorrow and they say my follicles are just not growing and we have to cancel the cycle aaaaaaaaa

5 have fertilised normally (3 from IVF and 2 from ICSI, along with another 2 abnormal fertilisation from IVF). Happy with that! I'm to call back Sat morning to see if I need to go in for EC, if not then Monday. Phew! Breathe. Now more waiting.

@Lily999 I'm SO sensitive to background noise so that would totally get to me. I think I'm more sensitive just now too. I feel like stabbing OH when he's munching crisps 😂🙈

Good luck with your waiting too @Melissa1983 xx

Haha @Chooklass there's a lot of stabbing going on in our households nowadays! Congrats on having 5embies, what a great number to start with!

I know I am driving myself and everyone else around me mad, but why don't I feel anything on day 7 of stimms? Freaking out so much... I want to find out tomorrow what is going on.. Thought after my first scan on day 6 I will know everything and won't have to worry, but now I am more worried than ever. :(

Good luck for this afternoon @Melissa1983 🤞🏻🍀

I was worrying exactly like you at the stage your at @Lily999 , so you know it's totally normal to feel that way (especially after them messing you around last week!) and that it's likely to all be fine tomorrow 🍀😉

Chuffed to bits for you @Chooklass 😍 Yeah, the waiting gets a bit old, doesn't it?! 😄

Trigger shot question. Did anyone have 'pregnancy symptoms' tasting metal and breasts can not be looked at without hurting

@Lily999 I am so with you on the noises 😤
My fertility acupuncturist is next door to a baby crainiosacral therapy person, so when I am waiting i am surrounded by prams and when I am in there, there is quite often a baby crying nextdoor 🙈 not ideal for someone struggling with infertility! She is the only decent one I have found near me though so I am just lumping it!

@Chooklass that is great news! 🤞 they all keep growing now. X

@Sabz36 - totally! My boobs, especially nipples, have been really sore since trigger. They are even sorer today (day after EC). I am also smelling things more I think - just told OH his breath smells 😂. I could smell it from a few metres away! Luckily he's not sensitive about stuff like that!

@Chooklass yesssss I smell everything which isn't pleasant. I want to hibernate until it works it way through my system

I do have this feeling that a headache is about to start so I end up drinking water constantly- resulting me going to the loo about 35times a day, but then the headache doesn't start. Also have the bloated stomach, that comes and goes, yesterday was the worst of all days, had to unbutton my trousers as I could not sit at my desk at work, it was painful. Yesterday also had some odd pain in my abdomen, but nothing that I expected: nausea and actually "feeling" my ovaries. I don't feel them being swollen of full or heavy only cramps here and there... :(

So you do have symptoms @Lily999 !! I felt the exact same as you. Only had symptoms on and off towards the end of stims. They would have upped your dose if you weren't on target 😃xx

Hm... so these would be the symptoms I have been looking for?? I was expecting to be a lot more emotional and I am a bloody delight :D Could be because I didn't have down regulation. At least DH is happy. I am going to ask about the dosage tomorrow if they are still not growing though. As @BambiOnIce80 said after they messed everything up with my protocols last week I don't really trust their judgement that is a horrible feeling and you are lucky to be confident about "your people" :)

Yes that's true @Lily999 ...for my own sanity I am completely trusting my clinic just now but I've not had reason not to (which I realise is lucky). It honestly sounds like everything is on track for you though 😊. I was on same protocol and had v similar scan results to you on day 6. They have to be careful to avoid OHSS with high AMH so slowly and gently is much better for you just now xx

Thanks @Chooklass I know I could be completely unreasonable (maybe another symptom haha), but probably the best policy is to just let them do their jobs. As I am typing btw I am definitely having more abdominal pain, so feeling a bit better about it all :)
Hoping tomorrow we will get some actually measurable follicles on day 8 as there was only 1 out of 14 on day 6 that was measurable.
Yesterday I told my acupuncturist that I am concerned about the success rates for short protocol and she said the difference is only 3%, so that made me feel better as well.

@FlapJackered a crying baby I imagine can be even more distracting, I would recommend sound proofing acupuncturists' rooms and they should not get a license to operate without! :)

@Lily999 I was most disappointed after my day 8 scan (just to warn you!). My largest was 12mm that day so still seemed way behind. There was a big leap in size between day 8 scan and day 10 scan for me, so don't be worried if they still look slow and don't up your dose 😊xx

Hm.. oki thanks, that's helpful then I shall manage my expectations! I did hear they speed up towards ovulation day in the normal cycle as well so it would make sense. More abdominal pain for me so we might get there at the end after all!
Did you take today off as well?

I did - nurse said I'd need 2 days off. To be honest I feel like I could be at work no probs (as long as I have a loose waistband!) but think lots of folk are in worse pain than me the day after so better to have the option. X

@Lily999 I am now day 11 of stims and I don't feel anything now! I felt the same as you though, bit bloated and swollen and a bit painful so I think you are on the right track, don't worry! And if not, they can always up your dose tomorrow after your scan! I am back for my 2nd scan tomorrow, hope my follicles have grown!!

Hi all, I'm on day 13 of stims and my scan today has shown quite a few follicles at the right size so they want me to trigger tonight at 10pm.
The scan also showed that my endometrial lining is losing its receptivity and estrogen levels are quite high so more than likely I'll be having a freeze all. It's disappointing but I keep reminding myself I'd rather have a better chance of success. But I'm so impatient and it's been such a long and difficult journey.....

Oh and @lilly999 I too didn't feel anything at all until yesterday. I was panicking that nothing was happening despite the scans showing otherwise and then bam everything felt super tender.

Thankyou all so much for your comments you really all are brilliant ❤️

@Chooklass I've been told to call the clinic on the day of next AF which should hopefully be within the next 10 days. 6 weeks after that I can have a scan to check my body is returning to normal and ovaries shrinking back down to normal size. Then I need to wait a few months for AF to become regular again and then we can discuss doing another cycle using a different protocol & different drugs 🤞

@jcurve @Lily999 @Minster2012 @rainbow178 that's what I intend to do. Now that I've had a couple of days to process the information I'm really trying to focus on things that we can look forward to instead. I want to plan a couple of nights out but don't really feel like socialising atm tbh. Going to book a holiday ASAP as I bloody need one lol but I start a new job role at my work place in 2 weeks time (bad timing I know, but life goes on right) ,so I'm not sure I could take holiday straight away without looking like I'm taking the mick 🤔🙈 I've given myself a couple of weeks off my diet (been watching my BMI throughout as I'm borderline for criteria) so SlimmingWorlds gone out the window this week 👋🍔🍬🍪🍰

@Lily999 bless your OH for coming up with that analogy ☺️ that really is quite a comforting thought process actually ❤️

So I'm feeling a bit more 'together' than I have done the last few days girls. One thing that is playing on my mind is (sods law) my bloody clinic is closing down in April! 😱😭 thankfully though, they are only supposed to be moving to a different building in my town but nobody seems to know where 🤷‍♀️ everything seems quite up in the air with it atm. I've been reassured that the ccg remains the same for my area though so my one free nhs round remains intact 👌 and we've been assured that any future treatment won't be much affected other than change of clinic address? I soo hope this is the case 🤞

I'm still going to keep an eye on all of your progress as I'm invested in you girls now! 😉🥰🥰 I may not be very active from now on ladies but know my thoughts are with every single one of you ❤️ xxx