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IVF in Feb/March 2020?

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waitingforarainbow · 19/12/2019 08:01

Hello! I'm just wondering whether there are others starting their IVF journey in Feb/March 2020.

I am dealing with secondary infertility (male factor) and we have been TTC#2 for 16 months. We conceived naturally by some miracle back in July, but sadly had an early miscarriage (my third in total). We're now waiting to start ICSI IVF in early February.

Would love to hear from others doing the same. x

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confused107 · 14/02/2020 09:30

@Crumpets124 I completely agree. Work is secondary to life. My last company was a massive global firm and I saw them make people redundant after they came back from maternity so I will definitely be putting myself and my family first

I'm also struggling with the eating this time despite being 100% on it last time. I'm 10lbs heavier though I feel loads fitter thanks to training for a half marathon and having a personal trainer. My eating is far from great, though I am having a protein shake for everyday after my workout. I've decided to be kind for myself. Billions of people get pregnant everyday without stressing about diet so I'm trying to be sensible, but if I fancy a bar of galaxy I'm having it!

Hatawa83 · 14/02/2020 09:45

@confused107 Urgh, I know what you mean. This is definitely our last IVF round. We just cannot carry on financially and after 3 miscarriages, I just can’t deal with much more emotionally and physically. Fingers crossed for us both! You won’t be far off from me so lets hope we both get happy news. My issue is not so much falling pregnant. 4 out of 4 transfers have resulted in pregnancy, but 3 miscarried by 8 weeks so getting an bfp is great but also the start of a pretty difficult wait for me.

@Hufflepuff1 when is your transfer? Never heard of it but it sounds interesting.

@Embri I feel you! I’m more ‘angry outbursts’ for now but just feel so up and down emotionally. I’m on day 7 and having on and off headaches, nausea and dizziness, along with the ovary twinges. I didn’t have these many side effects with the last round (until the last 2 days when I had OHSS kick in) which goes to show every round can be so different.

@Crumpets124 I am in the same position as you. Being as good as I can ie no alcohol, limited caffeine, healthy diet etc but my personal experience has taught me that ultimately its down to luck and if the embryo is good enough and the body is ready, its going to work. I feel for me its very much about mindset and staying calm and positive, which I’m struggling with atm. I need to step up my meditation and keep myself very busy over the next few weeks. It’s a tough process! I wish science could get to a stage where all women can have 100% success with treatment but I doubt it will ever get there. In the meantime we all need to stay sane through the insanity of it all.

Re egg count, it is definitely quality over quantity and ultimately, how many are good enough to transfer. They overstimulated me in the last round and I produced 33 fecking eggs!!! I was in absolutely agony the 24 hours prior to collection and literally screaming in pain while waiting for the op. It was not a good experience and we couldn’t do a fresh transfer as my uterus was “over-cooked” as the consultant said. My current consultant is brilliant and well aware of my tendency to over-produce so I’m being very carefully monitored. So just to show how numbers dwindle…33 became 17 embryos which in turn became 4 AA blastos which were fit for transfer. 33 to 4...goes to show!

natalie62663 · 14/02/2020 09:46

Hi all I am currently 4dp 5 day FET I am finding it really frustrating this time round 2... I also have the embryo picture but am struggling to work out what's what!

Hatawa83 · 14/02/2020 10:33

@natalie62663 the 2ww is awful. The wait is almost unbearable. I try and stay as busy as possible but it does drive me mad and I'll be going through it again in a couple of weeks...dreading it. What do you mean re the picture? it isn't always clear...just a mass of cells but meant to help the future mom remain positive x

natalie62663 · 14/02/2020 10:38

@hatawa83 the photo from fresh transfer is really clear and you can see everything this one I cant make anything how do I attach it and I'll show you... Good luck for your 2we it is rubbish worse thing is that won't even be the end of it for me as last time we got to 8 weeks

Hatawa83 · 14/02/2020 10:52

@natalie62663 I know exactly how you feel. Out of 4 transfers I got pregnant 4 times but 3 miscarried...6weeks for one and 8 weeks for 2 of them so like you, if I get a bfp it is just the start of another agonising wait.
Mcs really leave a scar and though I try to treat each transfer and pregnancy like a completely new hope, its very tough not to think about the reality of losses. Couldn't see an attachment but would say our one baby was conceived by FET so don't give up. The success rate is the same for fresh and frozen. x

ValidUser · 14/02/2020 11:15

@Hatawa83 I get that. I had 3 chemical pregnancies with follicle tracking. Now, thankfully, they seem to have been as a result of antiphospholipid syndrome, which will hopefully be managed by innohep throughout any pregnancy, but I feel your pain.

Hatawa83 · 14/02/2020 11:29

@ValidUser thanks hun. So many of us sadly know this pain and for me its unexplained which is very annoying as despite having one healthy child, I seem to repeatedly miscarry but no one knows what to do about it.
My consultant is adding steroids this time in case that helps. I really think for me, its down to the embies. Two of the 3 mcs were embryos that were frozen, thawed, refrozen and rethawed so for me that was a big factor as our daughter was only frozen and thawed once. Lets hope that is all it was, a quality issue.
Gosh I hate IVF!!! No matter how this one goes I almost feel relieved that it is the last time as its been a total of 11 years since I ditched my contraceptive pills and we've been in the TTC cycle for most of those years. I'm ready to move on to a new stage in my life so whether this works or not it really is going to be the end of this chapter which I certainly will not miss. I have so many projects and dreams that I've put on hold because of this...Urgh I'm making myself all emotional now.
There are so many posts, remind me what stage you are at? Are you doing a full round or FET? x

ValidUser · 14/02/2020 11:54

@Hatawa83 it's my first ivf cycle in either 2 or 6 weeks.

I had a destroyed tube from childhood peritonitis and my other one is a little dodgy. I had surgery followed by about 8 cycles of follicle tracking with gonal f (3 chemical pregnancies during that) and then diagnosed with a clotting disorder.

I'm 30 with an AMH of 12, so could be a lot worse, but nearly 2 years of delays and setbacks hasn't been pleasant. Can't even imagine what some of you have been through!

PineappleC · 14/02/2020 12:00

I'm also doing a bit of acupuncture, and finding it pretty relaxing (my acupuncture lady went through ivf herself so nice talking to someone who's been through it). But those of you who don't like it, no point at all in adding the stress of it!

I'm being kind to myself re diet. The nurse just told me to drink lots of water and eat lots of protein, so I'm doing that, but not going to deny myself other stuff. (Last night for example, I had bacon and eggs followed by chocolate eclair👍😉). There's so many rules and restrictions, I don't want it to be completely joyless!

Day 5 of stims for me. Injections still not hurting at all, and no noticeable symptoms other than a few twinges in my stomach. Strangely I'm actually feeling less tired than usual as I've given up my 25 miles a week of running. I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm enjoying the experience, but it's really not as bad as I thought so far. I'm sure this will change though as my ovaries grow and grow!!!

Hufflepuff1 · 14/02/2020 12:03

@Hatawa83 I also unfortunately understand your pain although it will be 8 years for me and not as many miscarriages. The hardest thing for me is not knowing why and remaining positive but the bottom line is I don't have a choice. I have to go through all of it and just see how it plans out.

I'm on my first FET and I have a blast in the freezer at the moment. Transfer for me is Friday 21st so a week today. Start lubion injections on Sunday, at the moment just taking progynova. 💜

Hatawa83 · 14/02/2020 12:36

@ValidUser awww good luck hun! Wow how strange that we've both had peritonitis. Not many people have even heard of it. I had it as a teenager but never thought there might be a connection...I will definitely mention it to my consultant on Monday. Chems are so frustrating as well but in a way, look at the good side...you can get pregnant so hopefully now that they have you on treatment it will stick this time :-)
@PineappleC glad you are not having any side effects! You may feel a little heavy in the ovaries towards the end but hopefully nothing else! You are right though, its really about what works for you and keeps you happy and stress free.
@Hufflepuff1 you said it! That's exactly it. It took us 7 years to create our daughter so I'm glad we stuck with it that long. We really feel we have done everything we could to have another, and give her a sibling but we are also both exhausted by it all and agree this is the last attempt. Each journey is so personal and each person can only do as much as they can for as long as they can. Eeek big for us both then. If all goes as planned I'll be having my egg collection on the 21st!!! Good luck hun :-) keep hope and be super positive and visualise the pregnancy as much as you can after the transfer x

ValidUser · 14/02/2020 12:47

@Hatawa83 my peritonitis caused a massive hydrosalpinx, so as long as you've had a HSG you are likely ok from that perspective.

Generally if the tubes and general structures are ok after peritonitis, fertility shouldn't be affected.

(Not a gynaecologist, but I am a doctor. I was so, so lucky to know to get tested early knowing my history.)

Hatawa83 · 14/02/2020 13:03

@ValidUser ah ok! I guess if I've had one healthy pregnancy that should indicate no significant damage was done. Ohhhh nice to have a doctor in our midst :-) that medical knowledge must be of some help in these situations

ValidUser · 14/02/2020 13:15

@Hatawa83 it's great to be aware of all this stuff (even knowing what my blood tests mean and being able to access them on the work computer), but I'm also hypersensitive to the risks of everything. DH did a gynaecology internship years ago, and we think this all gets in the way of thinking positively.

On one hand, I prefer to be realistic. On the other, the advice from everywhere including the clinic is to be positive. Can't tick every box, but doing what we can.

Confirming our treatment plan today, and on Tuesday I should be able to confirm the dates. Cross things for me!

I'm crossing all sorts of things for all of you.

Hatawa83 · 14/02/2020 13:42

@ValidUser I see what you mean. Knowing too much I guess is not always ideal in these situations. Wishing you the very best of luck with the upcoming round as well and look forward to seeing your updates in the coming weeks :-)

natalie62663 · 14/02/2020 13:46

@hatawa83 goodness me my journey is not as long as yours I am not surprised you are at the point of having had enough. I wish you every chance in this attempt x

Well I am now having some heavy feeling in my abdomen so goodness knows what's going on but here's hope it's positive.

Good luck 🍀 to everyone

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Youngatheart00 · 14/02/2020 14:14

Wow. Internet cookies really are a pain. A few IVF related google searches (and posts on here), and now Facebook is promoting NCT classes to me?!! Confused. AI needs to work on it’s emotional intelligence!

ValidUser · 14/02/2020 15:42

@Hatawa83 thanks! Looking forward to yours too.

@natalie62663 crossing things for you!

@Youngatheart00 I hate that. I block all those ads for being sensitive topics.

PineappleC · 14/02/2020 16:22

Thanks @hatawa83 I really hope so! I also have EC scheduled for 21st so nice to have a buddy 😊

Hatawa83 · 14/02/2020 16:55

@PineappleC oh that's great! We will definitely be catching up on the 21st then :-)
@natalie62663 aw thank you and same to you :-)

natalie62663 · 14/02/2020 16:58

When do you think I can do an early detection hpt.... I had transfer 11/2 I know it's very early but interested on people's thoughts x

Youngatheart00 · 14/02/2020 17:09

@natalie62663 it’s so hard isn’t it! I tested after 5 days last time and got a neg, which persisted. That said, I have heard of people getting positives at 5 days post transfer. If you can hold on to 8 days post, you’ll likely get a more accurate result; there is still chance of either a false negative or a false positive (trigger shot) at 5 days, both of which would be hard to deal with! Hang in there.....

250515xx · 14/02/2020 17:13

Hey. Hope it’s okay to join? I’ve read the last couple of pages of comments but will start from the beginning to catch up properly. I started buserelin injections on Tuesday. This is my first round of ICSI after a couple of failed IUI attempts so I know very little about it all really!

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