July/August IVF/ICSI/FET

[TinyPaws]

Hi everyone,

Thought I'd start a thread for those of us undergoing fertility treatment in July/August.

I'm (hopefully) having a FET late July/early August, anyone else want to hop on this thread for the ride?

@Peanut1980 it's such a rollercoaster of emotions. We had a somewhat similar situation so I understand that it's tough and you're left without understanding what the hell happened seemed to be going well. One of the things we were told from the beggining was that the embryos could, at any point, just not develop anymore, or fragmentate, or deteriorate without any apparent reason. This IVF thing is definitely not an exact science and it's shit because nothing is certain. Anything can happen at any point without you or them having no control.

I agree with @facevalue try to clarify what the misunderstanding was. Where they good quality and then deteriorated? Were they never good quality and someone gave the wrong impression? Do you have the name of the embryologist who called you on the 3day mark so you can address that person directly?

I am so so sorry that this happened to you. Take your time to process and grieve but please be kind to yourself. I hope you'll feel a bit better today. Focus on the next steps.

Thank you @Onisa7 and @facevalue. Yes it’s more just seeking clarification. I do understand things can change at any moment but being misinformed is something that could be avoided. I’ve drafted an email and sent to my hubby. We’ll review it in a couple of days to make sure it’s not an emotional one. It’s difficult when it’s all over the phone as there’s no paper trail. It’s not just the embryologist though, the consultant said the same thing to me on day 4 but then yesterday he was saying they were never great quality. Oh I don’t know. I think I just need to clear things up because if we were to have another cycle with them I’d want to feel confident with the clinic x

The one thing I have learnt is that is we have to cycle again, we don’t want updates - just a day 5 outcome. We started with 16, 12 fertilised and we had 10 going strong. I then got really ill with OHSS but thought “that’s ok, we are going to have plenty”. We have 3 embryos. Whilst I get this isn’t bad, psychologically I was on track for more. Next time, I only want to know the end result so that I’m not disappointed.

@Anaesthetist83 sorry to hear about OHSS i'm sure you were so so disappointed. i know why u say i don't want to know updates until day5 blastocytes however if u only had one embryo they should tell you to put it back on day 3 as embryos can still grow inside you but not in the lab so it would be wrong for them not to tell you .. 3 blasteocyte stage embryos are fantastic that's hopefully 3 children or 3 identical twins ... what's meant to be will be.. look after yourself and take your vitamins and no alcohol etc until u r ready to put one back .. i always wonder if i had a frosties, i probably would still have a fresh cycle to collect more for my peace of mind but if that didn't work i'll start using the frosties! but i never make more that 3 embryos in the 5 cycles we had at long and short and medium dose protocols so obviously i'm biased x

I’m so sorry @Peanut1980 - that’s a horrible situation when it seems like they’re suddenly saying something different. I definitely think ask them to clarify before you decide whether you want to stay with them for another cycle. It’s such a big decision.

@Anaesthetist83 - sorry to hear about OHSS. I have PCOS so I was convinced I would end up with loads of eggs and embryos, and in the end I only got three as well (one inside and two Frosties). I was disappointed at first, but having seen so many people on this thread have less success than that, I’m just now really grateful. Also maybe it means three really high quality ones rather than loads of lesser quality (for reference, my first one took and I’m now 7+3) 🤞

@TinyPaws how are you doing? You have another scan Monday right? You feeling okay?

@TinyPaws how are you feeling for your scan tomorrow?

@Passionfruit20 do you have A scan soon too?

@Peanut1980 how confusing and horrible for you! Definitely try and see if you can clarify the situation, because this process is stressful enough without being given different information. Their idea of great quality might be really high but it’s no excuse to tell you they’re good and after they’re not.

@Onisa7 and @facevalue how are you both doing?
@Anaesthetist83 I hear you in the disappointment front. first cycle we did I was prepared for not many to fertilise but when 8 did I was super stoked and thought great but it didn’t turn out that way. Can’t imagine how much harder it must feel with you having been through OHSS though, so tough.
I hope every day you are improving a bit!

So tomorrow is my OTD and I caved this morning and did a cheapie test. There’s a squint and you can just see it very very very faint line. Sort of in shock and sort of cautious that it’s so faint. DH under instruction to go out and get a digital to go with the hospital test we were given for tomorrow.

@Anaesthetist83 hope you're feeling better from the OHSS. Sorry if I missed this but you're gonna do a freeze all cycle for now? I know it sounds low but it might be 3 babies right there.

@Brambles, I'm just trying to stay sane through this wait to be honest. We are 4 days away and I'm starting to get itchy fingers. I don't have many hopes but would prefer to know than to wait (which I most definitely will).

Let us know how it goes with the test tomorrow. Hope that line only grows darker 😊

@Onisa7 it’s so hard to stay sane! I caved this morning and I’m not sure I wish I had. 4 more days, feels super long I know. Everything crossed for you that it’s worth the wait.

Yes, “thankfully” OHSS started immediately after egg collection for me. It could have been so much worse had we transferred and then developed it.

@Brambles7 hey. i'm ok thanks for asking.. TWW is torture .. only a few more days.. hands definitely itching to test BUT i would not want a false positive .. and if it's bfn it's heartbreaking so not rush to feel crap so i'll wait x

@Marmite83 I was waiting to hear some updates from you .. did you have your 7weeks scan? i hope everything is going well xxx it would be lovely to hear more success stories to keep the hopes up x

@facevalue im not sure what happened, I stopped receiving updates from mumsnet and have been away over the weekend without WiFi. Started getting updates again this morning, very strange!

I had my scan at 6+3 and we saw a heartbeat. Due to have another scan on Friday when I'll be 8+3 so fingers crossed the heartbeat's still there. I still don't have much in the way of symptoms. Mild nausea when I'm hungry but otherwise I feel fairly normal. Very different to how I felt with dd so I'm worrying that it's not going to work out.

Sorry to hear about everyone who's had bad news recently. I hope you're all healing and finding a way to move forward.

How did you get on yesterday @Brambles7?

@Brambles7 my scan is on Thursday afternoon! I’ll be exactly 8 weeks. Pretty nervous and excited. I deliberately haven’t told any of my family (who know about the BFP) when the scan is exactly, but even so they all keep asking. I just don’t want anyone to get too excited until we see the scan. That’s when (If positive) I’ll tell my boss as well, as he knew about the IVF.

I’ve had awful nausea and exhaustion, basically only eaten bread, pasta, crackers or mashed potato for a week. Ugh! But hopefully it’s all a good sign.

@marmite83 even though I’m suffering all the symptoms, I know lots of people with normal pregnancies who never got any nausea at all - so I wouldn’t read too much into it. Also they say you get less sickness with boys, so you could be having a boy which may explain the difference to last time. Everything crossed for you for Friday.

@Marmite83 a heartbeat, amazing!! Obviously still cautious before your next scan but that’s still brilliant news!

So I tested again yesterday with 3 different tests (lol overkill but I had to be certain). The lines were very faint but the digital came up with a very definite answer. Can’t really quite believe it to be honest. Rather shell-shocked!

@Passionfruit20 good luck for Thursday!!! Everything crossed for a good heartbeat then!
You poor thing with the nausea! I’ve got a bit set in already today, already!! Been fine all day, then baked potato for dinner. Nope definitely didn’t like that.

Congratulations @Brambles7 that's fantastic news!

I know every pregnancy is different but I think I'd rather be sick as it would give me some peace of mind. Crazy really!

Hi lovely ladies. I think I'm out. Started having some very light pink discharge yesterday (1time after the toilet) and what are my normal period symptoms and today in the morning I had more discharge (brownish) similar to how my period starts. I still didn't test but this is it, I'm sure. Good luck to all of you!

So it transpires that my test date IS TODAY!

i entered it as the 14th instead of 11th wrong in the diary

BFP xx

I just hope it sticks

Sorry to hear that @Onisa7, treat yourself to some nice food and drink and be kind to yourself.

Congratulations @facevalue, lovely strong positive!

Sorry to hear that @Onisa7! Hope it really isn’t it, but look after yourself! I will keep everything crossed.

Wow @facevalue that’s a brilliant strong positive! Better than mine!

Lovely to pop on and read everyone's good news @TinyPaws and @Marmite83 pleased to hear all is going well. Congratulations @facevalue and hang on in there @Onisa7

So we had our review appointment this week. He was optimistic for future success and suggested a slight change to the drugs and a later egg collection to give my eggs more time to mature. Also said my killer cells were at 62% so I would get steroids this time. DH and I have decided to give it one more go. It's going to clear us out financially but we think we will regret it if we don't, so we are looking at clinics. I think if we go for full long protocol again we will stick with Nurture as they have the benefit of the last cycle, but I'm interested in alternatives!

Does anyone have any experience with natural IVF or create? I hated the drugs and had a low number of eggs due to my low AMH so I'm wondering if that's a better option. Waiting for a call back from them, but interested to hear anyone else's experience of natural or mild ivf

@confused107 the only experience I have with Create was fairly brief. I went to an open evening which seemed informative. When I rang to double check some details over the phone I was given some conflicting information. When I queried it after an initial consultation with lots more conflicting information which would have an impact financially and on timings, I was told, with a shrugged apology, that there were lots of new people in the call centre who needed more training! Hopefully an isolated incident but I couldn't trust them so went elsewhere.

Hi @confused107. It sounds like your review was productive, with sensible consideration of what could be done next time. I didn’t realise you are Nurture also.

Sorry, no experience of alternatives....