July/August IVF/ICSI/FET

[TinyPaws]

Hi everyone,

Thought I'd start a thread for those of us undergoing fertility treatment in July/August.

I'm (hopefully) having a FET late July/early August, anyone else want to hop on this thread for the ride?

That sounds like a good weekend to have @confused107, hopefully just what you needed.

@Peanut1980 hope you’re okay today, it’s a tough process and puts a strain on everyone. I hope that it’s better news than you think on Friday with the consultant.

@facevalue aren’t hormones so much fun!! Logic who needs logic!
Last cycle the pessaries made me weep so much, this time I’m just so tired and cranky.

@Peanut1980 I am so sorry to hear, are you alright? it's a tough process for all and my DH was def affected, even though he wasn't as expressive about it as I was. Ivf puts a strain in the most solid of relationships. Time helps.

I was quite down before I talked to our consultant but he put things in perspective a bit for us during that follow up meeting and we both felt better afterwards. It might help you, make sure you both ask lots of questions

There’s so many updates on here I don’t know how to respond to them all - but my heart is with everyone whose suffering after bad news. It truly is so incredibly unfair for so many people.

All I can say is it takes amazing courage to decide to go on this journey, whether it’s once or five times. And then even more to make it through mostly sane.

@Peanut1980 - big hopes your relationship is okay. That seems like such a tough situation after everything you’re already going through. I hope you come through it.

Morning ladies. How's everyone doing today? Sorry I've taken some time away...just needed to process and think about our next steps.

@Lola124 it's shit, I know, and I'm so sorry you (and so many of us) have to go through it. Treat yourself.

@peanut1980 fingers crossed for a good appointment on Friday

@facevalue all the dizziness stop so not really experiencing any side effects anymore. Just my boobs are a bit sore but my cycle starts in 2 days so I guess I know what coming

@Lil221 how are you getting on love?

@confused107 we will have to pay for it ourselves next time. At the moment I'm going through private clinic reviews to see which one we're going with. Have you looked at any?

Hey everyone, I couldn't help put poas. I know i shouldn't but the temptation was just too much!!! I got a clear put faint bfp!! I'm still concerned it's my trigger shot though. I'm 10 days past trigger and 5dpt x

@lil221 do you know how much your trigger shot was? I think you can work out the days it takes to leave your system based on how much you took. I remember for me when I worked it out it was about ten/eleven days but for some people it could be less (not sure how accurate it is though!). All fingers crossed for you that it stays a BFP.

@passionfruit20 my trigger about was the 24th of August so its 10 days today! I just thought it wouldn't pick up any lasting traces of trigger on a first response 25mui test x

Wow @Lil221 you were quick... that's good news but just please protect yourself and your heart and don't trust it too much. There's a reason why they ask us to wait but I have all my fingers and toes crossed that positive remains the same or only grows stronger.

I don't have the courage to test yet. Even though I kinda know what the result is I will definitely wait for the OTD because I don't wanna go through a false bfp and I also won't be the one looking...my boyfriend is...it's been decided 😆😆

@passionfruit20 thank you I am definitely being very careful as I know the chances of it being a true bfp or sticking are not the best. It's my very first cycle so I'm being cautious but I'm naturally impulsive lol. Hopefully you get some good news xx

@lil221 was your trigger ovitrelle 250 mcg? Or a different one?
Also, I know a couple of people in this thread tested every day from transfer all the way through so they could tell what day the HCG left their system... @Marmite83 was it you that did that? They might be able to advise what day it was. Although obviously different people could metabolise differently.

@Onisa7 stay strong and good luck! It’s hard to wait but as you said you don’t have the rollercoaster then. Big hugs.

@passionfruit20 it was Gonasi 5000mui. Does that help x

@lil221 so if I cheat and use this lady’s table
community.babycenter.com/post/a25039159/calculations_for_when_the_hcg_trigger_shot_leaves_your_system.

Your best case scenario is day 8 past the trigger it’s all gone, and your worst case scenario is day 12 past the trigger (I removed a day because you took 5000, not 10,000).

So maybe wait at least a couple more days before you test again? If you can. I know it’s hard though :)

@passionfruit20 thank you so much. I'll just fight the urge to test again until Saturday and see what it says xx

@Lil221 obviously still really early but everything crossed for you that result doesn’t change.

@Onisa7 well done staying strong. I am trying to as well! This bit of the 2ww gets so hard, starting to get to me a bit. Hope you’re managing to stay calm and busy!

Well @Brambles7 I wouldn't say calm but busy yes. I had to take these 2 weeks off (I know that some of you go to work straight away) because I couldn't deal with the anxiety and pressure at work at the same time of this and the bad news on Monday at work just put me in a really bad place with my anxiety. But I'm trying to do things I like...go for walks in the park, gardening, DIY and my friends have been really supportive and everyday one calls for us to go out. I told my bf that some people test earlier and he was absolutely against it so...I am waiting for sure. Wouldn't be able to deal with false hopes.

Quick question for you ladies that unfortunately weren't successful 😔....when does your period come? When it's supposed to anyway or only after you stop the pessaries?
My boobs are so painful right now which is always a massive sign that my period is coming soon...

@Onisa7 glad you’re keeping busy. That sounds like nice things you’ve been doing to while away the time.
It’s a killer wait isn’t it!
I went back to work last week which was really good and kept me busy, but this week is proving counterproductive as issues have cropped up to make me feel stressed. Plus I’m obviously starting to worry about the weekends result!
I’m with you on the not being able to deal with false hopes.

For my first cycle, I only got my period once I’d stopped the pessaries and it came a good 3 or 4 days after but I think other people have had different experiences with it.

@Onisa7 - can’t help on period date, but I had hugely sore boobs (which I also get pre-period) and it was a BFP for me (I’m now 7 weeks). So don’t let the boobs worry you too much. It could be a side effect either of the pessaries, a pregnancy, or your period! So impossible to know. Fingers crossed.

I think sore boobs could also be a sign of pregnancy so don't read too much into it.

In terms of period for me it came about 5 days after stopping the meds. I had bleeding and spotting on and off for two and a half weeks after that! I think it's only just stopping now actually. Nobody tells you this!

@Onisa7 😢 i completely feel you. i also test next week. the last two days have been extremely tough. if ivf not stressful enough try to go through a bullying and harassment problem when the person bullying you also threatened you as a result and told you they will destroy you!

I had do to meeting yesterday to talk about it and the HR person and the other were so forceful and trying extremely hard to make say that i'd just accept to go for mediation.

i never get sore boobs with periods. the only time i had sore boobs was when i was pregnant and breastfeeding. however the pessaries leaflet states clearly sore boobs tummy discomfort dizziness nausea etc .. so i'm trying extremely hard to ignore all symptoms NEVER test earlier than OTD.

in answer to your question your test date is your next period date , you know i had unsuccessful cycles before and i always had spotting the day before or on the day of testing when it was bfn but i do have very regular periods. i always panick if i see blood but even if u get spotting u still have to wait and test because as i mentioned a while back rarely but does happen that u can have a bleed and still be pregnant.

i have found this forum so supportive this time and i just want to say THANK YOU ALL for being the best IVF support group xxxx hugs

Apologies I have neglected this thread horribly! I've been reading along but haven't found time to post. I'm sorry to read there has been some bad news on here since I last updated, my thoughts are very much with you ladies.

@Brambles7 Congrats on one in the freezer! It's a nice feeling. When in your OTD?

@dlpdep Thank you for your kind words and good luck with your October cycle.

@elleceedee Thank you. Have you made any decisions about your next cycle?

@Peanut1980 Sorry you're going through such a difficult time. I really hope things work out ok for you and your husband and that the appointment tomorrow is helpful.

@sometimesalways Thank you and good luck for your September cycle.

@Jojo19834 Welcome! Sorry the last cycle was a BFN, fingers crossed the next one is a positive.

@facevalue Sorry you've had issues at work, absolutely not what you need when going through fertility treatment! Hope you're finding ways to pass the time, the 2WW is a killer.

@Marmite83 Thanks! How are you doing?

@Passionfruit20 I hope the pains have settled down now? Your clinic doesn't sound very helpful. Good luck for your scan next week.

@onisa7 Glad you have one safely inside. I'm sorry the other two didn't quite make it to freeze. I hope you're managing to enjoy lots of nice walks. Sore boobs were an early pregnancy sign for me so don't count yourself out yet!

@Lola124 Sorry about your BFN and sorry about your insensitive friend! I hope you enjoy your break and good luck for your Oct cycle.

@DawnK77 So sorry it was a BFN. That really sucks.

@confused107 Glad you managed to get away for a couple of days. I hope your appointment is helpful. It's such a tough journey to be on.

@Lil221 Welcome to the thread and welcome to the 2WW! I did test early (not sure I'd recommend it though) but my tests never went negative - started picking up hCG from the pregnancy before the hCG from the trigger was completely out of my system. The only way to know for sure is to test again in a day or two (or more!) - if you're pregnant the lines should get stronger, if it's just trigger the lines should fade.

I had a successful scan at 7+1 on Monday, got another scan booked in at 8+1 which I'm a bit nervous about. I've been struggling with nausea and fatigue and today my GP referred me to local maternity services. I've been told I'll need to be monitored by an endocrinology consultant throughout this pregnancy due to my thyroid antibodies.

After 3 pregnancy losses I'm not yet fully confident this pregnancy will go the distance but I'm starting to believe it's possible. It's just scary getting too attached at such an early stage.

@facevalue you definitely don't need that in your life right now. What a rubish stressful thing to go through in a moment like this. Tell them all to leave you alone. I'm so relieved that I'm not at work at the moment. It's been great just to be able to de-stress.

@TinyPaws welcome back! It's great to hear that you're still going strong. Today I was talking to a friend of mine that had a baby recently and saying that you worry about every single stage (as of course the ladies who conceive naturally also do) but it's a different type of worry and for longer because we know what's happening at every stage of the process and the pain/fear of disappointment is so intense...I really don't think people who haven't gone through it would ever understand. My boss told me the other day...well if it doesn't work you can always try again.

Thank you to all who answered by question. I am trying not to read too much into it but it's SOOOO HARD. Stay strong ladies and thank you for your support.

@facevalue as if you hadn’t got enough on your plate without having to deal with that too! I hope you are okay.

@TinyPaws good to hear from you, I’m glad things are still going well apart from the nausea! I suppose at least that’s a good sign the baby’s there?
Best of luck for your scan next week, I hope it goes really well and gives you a bit more confidence. Not that I can imagine one will ever stop really worrying.

Thanks for all your kind words ladies. We managed to escape to a theme park this week and I laughed until my stomach ached so that was good. We had our appointment with the consultant this morning. Don’t know how we’re going to proceed. Hubby has just asked me if we can have some time to digest what he said and then talk about it. His recommendations were to have another go but try the short protocol instead of long which we’ve done for the past two cycles. He said no to DHEA as that’s only for people producing a low number of eggs. Our issue isn’t quantity. He said I have approx a 15-20% chance of success which I still think sounds hopeful until I remind myself that still means 80-85% chance of it not working. I don’t know whether we just continue to try naturally in hope that one day a good quality egg is released and it happens naturally. I feel like we should have one last shot at IVF. I don’t know 🥴

I did want to check one point with you ladies. Today the consultant said our embryos were of poor quality at day 3 but this is a very different story to the phone call I had with the embryologist on day 3. I was told by the embryologist that 6 were of great quality and the rest were average. Even when I spoke to the consultant we saw today at 4 days past EC he said the embryos were of great quality and it looked like we would have some to freeze. So I don’t understand why this is so different to the summary we were given today. I feel like it would have helped me better with managing my emotions and expectations for the transfer day if they told me on day 3 that they weren’t developing well. I feel very tempted to complain. What do you think?

@Peanut1980 i'm not sure if there's a problem with the site because i sent you a reply yesterday and it disappeared!

anyway, i'd say you can write to the manager: say i'm upset about some confusion during my cycle. i was told by an embryologist my embryos were top quality but dr XXX said they were poor. was it a mix up or were they really of poor quality can you find out what the answer is or please ask the embryologist to call me or write to me confirming what the embryos looked like please. it matters to me and it will help me move on.

i think when u label things as complain u r less likely to get an answer and it's extremely hard to prove who said what if it was not recorded x