IVF/ICSI June/ July 2018 (Part 2)

[Tigerlily99]

Hello ladies, I think we reached the maximum no of posts on last thread so I opened a new one. Hope you are Ok with this OP (@cannonball)? X

Hi everyone

@beherenow massive massive congratulations!!! So exciting to see some positive news and well done for persevering. I’m on cycle 2.

@Gavinmaxine1 glad you’re a bit more comfortable. A friend who is going through IVF same time as me bounced back straight away. I was sore that day and uncomfortable the next day though!

@cannonball I started stims Weds eve. I have to take them morning and night, 12 hours apart. Scan on Monday and really hoping got a few more follicles than last time.

Ahh I've just seen another ivf lady on here!! I'm so happy for you @Beherenow32!!!

I'm 5+ 1 and scan next Monday. Feeling a bit rubbish. Have to wear a bra otherwise it's too sore (I've got a rack anyway). Little bit of nausea and hangriness. Very vivid dreams.

@HappyHedgehog247 up until Tuesday my follies weren't great but by collection were fab!!! Just found out 5 of our 6 fertilised! 🙌

@physicskate thank you! Good luck with your scan, but sounds like things are progressing well. I am feeling rough today. It’s crazy how fast it’s hit me. Are you on any other threads?

Hoping I can keep up to date, and chatting with you all xx

@Beherenow32 congratulations!!!!! Fantastic news!! Good luck with the scan xx

Hi all, it’s my 6 day post 3 day transfer, 8 days before my test and AF and I started having AF symptoms: cramps and break outs on my skin... I’ve been non stop with the house move, lots of packing, unpacking and cleaning. Tried not to do heavy lifting. I somehow don’t think it worked this time..

@Viletta it’s so hard to tell with symptoms 😪 because we are on progesterone too. Remember j worried because I had some cramps and back pain. My skin was awful too. Like just before my AF. It’s really difficult to tell either way. When are you due to test?
Take care 💗

@gavinmaxine - that’s fab!! Big turnaround from a few days ago. Just goes to show you cannot predict what will happen with this process.

Not much going on with me, still down regging and counting the days to first scan Tues. this is reaaaaally dragging now! Not much in way of side effects except weird vivid dreams!

Hope everyone else ok I think a few people on stims now? X

@Beherenow32 thank you, it is reassuring. I feel like believing in success is silly with such low chances, but secretly I do. My test is due in a week exactly.

@Beherenow32 I did join the march 2019 on pregnancy board, but most people on it have been trying a couple months and it brought back those jealous feelings. Kinda feel in no man's land as we've not had our viability scan yet and I'm barely pregnant.

There was the bfp after ivf thread but it's not very active. Also not feeling I need the same level of support as I did before...

@physicskate
Thanks. I did leave a message on the thread in infertility, after a wobble this morning. But think I’m ok now. It just will feel so strange not coming on these boards, chatting to people who are going through the same thing. You’re right, it is a very strange feeling! We will be counting down the days until the scan.
Xx

@physicskate I’ve been watching your progress on here over the past few months to a year, I was also trying to conceive for a long time and hanging out on the same threads, and I really admire your attitude and your kind advice to all and sundry on all the conception and infertility threads. So I am genuinely really happy to see you have conceived, I know it’s early days but I am rooting for you.

Sorry to jump on this thread, I wish all you ladies lots of luck and hope you don’t mind my using this area to send the above message.

Congrats, @gavinmaxine1! That's great news. Are you feeling better now?

@happyhedgehog fingers crossed for your scan tomorrow! How are the stims going? Same question to you @HJ82!

@viletta, @lopeylopez and @ginandtonicformeplease, I hope you are staying sane through TWW! Are you keeping yourselves busy?

@tikha hope you are feeling better. Any news on the embryos? Hope you get good news.

@physicskate and @beherenow32 hope you are both doing okay. Imagine it's natural to be anxious in this period. But it's good news :) and I hope the wait until scan goes quickly!

I am day 3 of the stims and doing okay. No side effects as yet. Exercised yesterday and today which has kept me sane. May do some tomorrow/tuesday if I feel up to it -and then will do nothing but walk after that.

I have been pretty chilled about things so far. But burst into tears this evening when I realised that i have to have intramuscular progesterone injections (lentogest).They sound horrible and I am totally dreading it. I snapped at DH because he hadn't done any exercise all week. I am pretty sure him being overweight has contributed to MFI. He has lost 8kg and is doing really well but I just resent that he hasn't been keeping on top of exercise - when i have been really good with diet/exercise/caffeine/alcohol - and finding out about the intramuscular injections made me lose my shit. He was quiet and said he'll do some exercise tomorrow. I shouldn't have shouted :(

Forgot to say, @tigerlily - glad first scan approaching! This whole thing feels sooo slow!

@Beherenow32 @physicskate you are more than welcome to stay here! I’m excited to hear about other IVF fellow’s success stories! Curious to see what’s on the other side of bfp:)

@cannonball8726 heya, oh I snapped at my DH for picking up cigarettes now and again. We have severe MFI. 2ww is going okay so far as we are moving houses. I find it hard to obtain from lifting things and bending although give myself breaks and make sure stuff is not heavy. I think if the embryo is good he should attach no matter what. Mine was a good looking 3 day but only one we got out of my 6 mature eggs.. dreading the test day!

Thanks @Viletta. It's really shit. I hate what infertility has done. I love my husband, he is truly amazing - I am so lucky to have him. I hate that there is some resentment within me about the MFI - and it surfaces rarely - but when it does, it's really horrible. I just hate it.

Hope your house move is going okay! Well done for keeping yourself busy. And in this heat! It's even more impressive. Does the new house need any work doing? I take it you're off work at the moment?

@cannonball8726 it is hard dealing with MFI as a lot of things that might improve the situation are out of our control and in hands of our husbands/partners. However no matter what caused it it’s not their fault. It’s probably unlucky combination of factors. There are a lot of people who lead unhealthy lifestyles, drink, smoke, have extra weight and pop out babies with no effort. Hope IVF/icsi will work for us soon and we will be back to normality:) I had a couple of days off and now back to work. The house is in a good condition but needs a fresh layer of paint and bits and pieces here and there. It’s our first house that we own with mortgage and we want to make it look great with time. Take care and hope your stims go well :)

@cannonball8726 We're MFI too. I rarely think about it, probably because he's accepted my health conditions (which can't be cured) and doesn't love me any less because of it. It would be very easy to get resentful and I can completely understand it.

Yesterday DH and I went outside to have a drink. We have one of those swing-seats in the garden. I sat down on it and promptly went through it. Then promptly burst into tears. Now I'm worrying that the rather big bump will have caused the frostie to dislodge somehow. Before IVF I'd have been in stitches at myself, now I'm in tears.

Then today I was browsing MN and came across a thread by a new mum asking whether she should not leave her baby unsupervised with her DH because he has epilepsy. The answers were resoundingly of course you can't, it's not safe. Which has made me wonder, if this is successful, should I be alone with my baby? Am I selfish for even wanting one?

So not a great weekend overall! Friday is my test day and I'll be away for work so won't even be with DH when I find out

Wow @cannonball8726 , well done for keeping up to date with where everyone is up to....don't know how you do it.

We're mfi too (the reason we were referred for ivf) but since the first round of poor fertilisation, they are now saying it looks like an egg quality issue too.... 😞😥

As people have said, mfi is hard because it's out of your control. You can do everything you can for yourself in terms of exercise/diet/caffeine/alcohol - as you have, and I have too - but you can't force it on another human being. You can coerce, as I have done, but it can feel like nagging and I hate it.... I managed to get my oh on supplements but only after I bought them all and set them out in a pill tray (I have one for mine too: makes sense when there's so many to take daily...), and I still have to prompt him to take them each day. He drinks over the recommended amount each week. Although he never gets "drunk". All we can do is try. I feel resentful quite a lot too, and I hate it. As you say, I hate what infertility has done.

I am 6 days post 5 day transfer now. As I have short cycles and only a 12 day luteal phase usually, AND they took my eggs sooner than I usually would have ovulated, my af would actually be due tomorrow in a usual cycle! So this is really weird. I know however that everything is off because of all the drugs and because they've controlled my hormones, but it still feels odd to not have spotting and cramps by this point. That starts to make me feel excited but I have to stop myself...my test date is not til next Monday, so a week away! Arrggghh.

@Viletta a house move sounds the perfect thing to keep your mind off this! I am busy at work and am relying on that really to distract me.

@ginandtonicformeplease my brother has epilepsy and has been in sole charge of his son loads. I can't see a problem if it is controlled by drugs....? He has not had an episode for ages. There must be so many people this applies to, with multiple conditions and not just yours. No reason at all not to have a child or to feel selfish x

We are also MFI, and felt very resentful at first, and of DH lifestyle. I think it was more because I was so upset about the actual situation of going through IVF. This feeling passed, and I knew that we were in it together (although I put a lot more pressure on myself to get things right...)

Thank you @Viletta and @cannonball8726

Tbh I feel so anxious. I’m taking more time off work 😢 I was set to go back but caved. Need to try some more mindful app.

You’re all doing amazing, especially those in the 2ww. It’s such a hard time. Cramps can be good, but then so can no cramps! Just got to wait and see. Although I feel like all your test dates are so far away! 😯 xx

Hi all

My DH took me away on an internet free holiday to chill out a bit.. So the news is at day 3, we have three viable embryos but going to speak with our RE tomorrow as its day 5 re PGS.. @viletta @cannonball8726 @ginandtonicformeplease we are MFI as well (made worse by slighly low AMH) but my DH was telling me he felt pretty useless.. I just wanted to make things ok for him but here we are .. science can only help us so much.

Hope people are staying sane through all waiting periods especially the two week wait..

@lopeylopez thank you for sharing your story.. made me feel a better.

@Beherenow32 @physicskate good to hear how things are progresssing :)

@Gavinmaxine1 for me the actual injections were ok but the post-op after egg retrieval took me almost two days to recover and am still slightly bloated.. so it can vary from person to person..

Here I am at back at work like nothing has happened.. Happy Monday

Thanks @LopeyLopez , encouraging words make me feel much better! There just seemed to be so many people saying exactly the opposite that I started to doubt myself.

@tikha @cannonball8726 @Viletta DH seems to be using humour as a way of coping with MFI, but I do wish he'd talk about it more. I get where he's coming from as I use humour to cope with health problems and I can't force him to talk about it. The NHS nurse we saw originally said that we had unexplained infertility, it was only months later when we went private that the consultant took one look at the results and said no, definitely MFI. I think we were both quite glad by then that we'd got a cause and a plan going forward!

@cannonball8726 Feeling nothing yet. I did have a day 4 scan but they said I didn't need it as I wasn't taking buserlerin anymore. Bloods normal so dosage stays the same. I wouldn't worry about the snappy moments. Our partners understand. I've been weepy on and off.

Just had my day 6 scan and they said my follies are still very small. Lining looks good. Anyone have slow growers? Also still under 10 of them... 😥 I guess anything can happen in 6 days...

Hi all, didn’t realize there is so much MFI in this group! With my DH we went straight to icsi as the doctor said there is not much we can do to improve the situation even if we find what’s causing it. His genetic test and hormones were all good. I am wondering though if a more thorough investigation is needed. No one even looked at his private parts let alone done an ultrasound for varicoselle. He had mumps as a baby.. that could be our cause too. Have you guys done proper investigation of the cause?

On the other hand his parents keep going on and on about his lifestyle sending me links to acupuncture, herbiologists, diet plans, supplements, etc. suggesting we can get pregnant naturally if only he replaces bacon with Brazil nuts! So annoying they send this to me.. he won’t do any of the above...