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IVF SEP/OCT Part 2- Get your Stretchy Leggings here ladies!

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Minster2012 · 28/10/2017 14:40

IVF buddies September /October continued, heading into November & wearing VERY comfy stretchy leggings & trousers (perfect for Xmas too!!)

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dinksandbinks · 29/10/2017 21:47

Aliona That is impressive!! You should start spinning it, to turn into wool... I'm sure there would be someone who would buy it!! And sometimes I wish we could live in London, everything seems so easy there... but then I remember our combined salaries would just about get us a tent :/

Scots lovely to hear from you! I think we have really similar symptoms!! I too am utterly shattered; even though I am sleeping well, and lots, it's never enough. Everything is exhausting too, going up the stairs I need to stop at the top. I need to eat all the time, but I've got off most of the food I usually eat and random things make me nauseous (like today an episode of the Simpsons...). Also get cramps quite a bit. They make me really nervous, but apparently they are normal too.

I am going to get an early night because technically it is almost 11 zzzz
xxx

dinksandbinks · 29/10/2017 21:55

Minster Last post before bed! I am not offended by meat eating, at all. In fact I genuinely believe it would be terrible for the planet if everyone was vegetarian. I disagree with giant meat farms that don't adhere to ethical and environmental standards for meat production, but where you're eating happy, healthy animals it's personal preference.

Hunting is a tricky one... I don't get the idea of fox hunting. My family back in Ireland were farmers, and my grandpa used to think it was hilarious that people would wait until the weekend to assemble in their perfect coats with prancing ponies and crazy dogs to go hunt foxes. His solution to a fox attack: rifle, night vision goggles, job done. I get foxes are arseholes (I literally wrestled one of our chickens off one once!) and must be controlled, but needs to be ethical otherwise we're no better than the arsehole fox. Deer and other stuff that is eaten, I kind of see it as free range meat?! Which, if I did eat meat, it would have to be. So no issues there.

In other words, I'm cool with it lol Cake

Aliona19 · 29/10/2017 22:11

Dinks.. that’s the thing. Rent here is mad and I hate it. But everything is so easy and around the corner, hard to leave it all. But I do hope one day I will move somewhere outside (saying to myself need to play lotto more often). Good night 🌹
Ps as for doggie, lol good idea. I may just put it together and make few pillows as a xmas gift 😂 want one?!

Aliona19 · 29/10/2017 22:12

Minster2012 Please pretty please 😂🙏🏻 I promise she is really lovely. Anyway, it’s only few weeks left till she looks like skinny rat. So next spring I am coming for you 😈

Starlumiere · 29/10/2017 22:15

Good evening everybody!

Gosh you have been busy on here today, but I love catching up on my messages 😬.

Dinks should I have been veggie for 20 years so get what you are saying. I am birder vegan actually. I just love animals more than meat!

Scotlass so happy all is going well for you. Take good care of yourself sweetie 😘

Aliona seriously? That's incridible moulting indeed!!

Minster your new puppy is so adorable it is unreal! Thank you so much for sharing pictures with us all.

I have only ordered the Neds on Sat and should get it all Tuesday evening. Starting injecting on the second day of my next cycle. Should be around the 15th of November. Time is passing do fast!!!

I hope your friend will be ready from the scan sweetie tomorrow. I have my fingers crossed for you 🌟✨💫.

I hope everybody is well lovely ladies. 😘

otters2017 · 29/10/2017 22:46

Gosh what a chatty lot you've been

filip sorry about the bfn 😢👎🏻 it's so difficult to make sense of anything and it's normal to question everything. My doctor at embryo transfer said nothing you can do now will change the genetics of the embryo so just carry on as normal. When is your follow up appointment?

dbear agree about involving DH as much as possible especially if he's keen. Mine did all my injections and came to the later scan appointments.
I didn't get a scan to check lining prior to transfer. When is yours going to be?

hardy are you still testing on wed? This journey is so tough and decisions aren't easy. It's good that you're both supportive and able to make decisions together.

star I'm sure the herbs help. It's so cool that you can help yourself!

rose well done on getting this far with no bloating! Ivf is full of hurdles. One after another.

minster glad the puppy settled in well. Ivf is so full of unknowns it's a minefield! Fingers crossed for your friend and your embie

dinksandbinks how are you feeling? When is your next scan?

scotslass good luck for your scan next week

I've been getting a lot of cramps and twinges today so it's been quite an anxious day. Thankfully no bleeding or spotting so am on constant knicker watch which isn't great. Really hope it's just the embryo settling in. 3 more sleeps till test day!

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RoseWrites · 30/10/2017 08:49

Thanks everyone for taking me down off a ledge over not feeling bloated enough! 😂

I found out yesterday that a friend is pregnant, and I found myself feeling jealous, which i hated. And woke up still feeling annoyed with the whole bloody IVF thing. Need to have another coffee and give myself a talking to!

Harry hope your back feels better soon 😗

Hope everyone is doing well xx

Starlumiere · 30/10/2017 09:01

Morning girlies,

Otters bless you, the waiting is almost over! 2 more sleep sweetie

Rose i hope I will have the same experience as you and not bloat either. Fabulous! No need to be jealous, it will be your turn soon enough Smile

Harry what we have to go through hey? Unbelievable! Hope you will feel better soon and yes 2 days till the first OTD!!!

Minster fingers crossed for your friend, let us know how it goes Smile

Dinks when is your scan again?

Filip how are you sweetie?

Have a wonderful day everyone! It is FREEZING today!!

RoseWrites · 30/10/2017 11:16

Thanks star and everyone else for the pep talk 😗

95% of the time I feel fine, then occassionally I find myself feeling cross and annoyed at the world!

Freezing cold here too. Brrr. Winter is coming.

Off for a scan this afternoon to see how the stims are doing... I'm looking forward to getting home and having a hot bath!

Hope everyone has a good Monday :) x

Atikakck · 30/10/2017 11:29

Can u tell me how it is dat Chinese ppl saying dat embryo need to b warm so baths, hot water bottle, heating pillows etc it's perfect BT then ma clinic don't believe in Chinese methods nd see u cnt hv bath nd all dis cz embryo will b to warm..

ElizabethCatherine · 30/10/2017 12:57

@Filipinam - keep being positive and strong and get the answers out of them. Our FET should be around the same time hopefully we can start soon together! My ovaries have calmed down just a little swollen now and a bit of fluid in my lung that will take another week but I was told December time for FET so I really hope so! I want to have it done this year!

@Dbear35 - SA really effects the men hey.. We feel less like a woman when dealing with infertility and then when they get a below average SA they really start to feel less manly don’t you think, DH says nothing but I can tell it effected him for sure. DH took proxeed too, vit d and e as requested and seemed to help too. I have read that drinking Pom juice and beet juice helps thicken the lining. Eat Brazil nuts probably 3 a day would be enough and then pineapple day before transfer and for a few days after (pineapple core make sure not to leave that bit out it contains the nutrient to help implantation). Also people seem to think sodium helps so a bit of salt on your food after transfer for a few days (some people always talk about McDonald’s fries for luck but I guess anything salty should do!). I don’t know about green tea though just be careful with that one. I hear that caffeine is best to stay away from even though green tea contains less caffeine it still has a bit.

Rose - I started feeling bloated/tired af day 6 of stims and so on

Aliona19 · 30/10/2017 14:16

Atikakck Don’t know about Chinese but when you pregnant it’s not ok to take hot bath or shower. Says can cause birth defects and mess with blood pressure therefore reduce oxygen for baby x

Atikakck · 30/10/2017 14:35

Aliona - on ma last fet a wen to Chinese acupuncture he did first cupping then acupuncture for me once a week nd he sed dat clinics don't know nuffin dat a shud first drink sum his herbs nd hv a break for 3month BT then ma clinic sed to nt get any Chinese herbs nd dat acupuncture nt guns make it positive etc a saw dat they don't like eachother methods

Aliona19 · 30/10/2017 15:00

Atikakck Well that’s personal choice.. I would go to Chinese for something like headache or back pain, but won’t risk the pregnancy. Maybe it’s good, but maybe they just making money on us. Who knows what they give us 🤔

dinksandbinks · 30/10/2017 17:11

Brrrr it's so chilly today!! I've been working from home today and the builders have had all the doors and windows open, and its so darn cold! Can't use our new log burner until next week, when the plaster has dried, so just had to sit under a pile of blankets.

Aliona We are in the north, hardly a rent-robbery hot-spot, but when we moved from Scotland we had a HUGE shock about prices. It's like the further south you go the more everything costs. I complain a lot about where I live, but we couldn't afford to buy a house if we lived further south. It's so frustrating how London is out of reach of a lot of people. But then again, black bogeys lol. How's your walking carpet doggy today? Any more fur for a blanket?!

Rose How was your scan? Hope all is going well!!

Otters You're so close to testing!! You're being so patient!! I think knicker watch is mandatory... Everything crossed for you.

Minster How is the pup today? Hope she's settling in!! How is your friend doing? When are you scanning again?

Atik Western medicine and Chinese medicine are really, really different and you're right that they don't like each other! Part of the problem is that the Chinese government are putting a huge amount of money into Chinese medicine, and limiting imports of western drugs. So, a lot of the disagreement is political, which is really unhelpful for patients!!

There is definitely merit in some Chinese medicine (e.g. acupuncture is shown to be effective for stress, pain etc.) but the trouble with it is that there is not the science behind it that we have in western medicine. I think staying warm is generally good for you, but raising your body temperature above normal is likely to be bad.

(Disclosure - I work in health sciences!)

Elizabeth How are you doing? Are you feeling any better? My ovaries are still 9cm and 11cm. It's getting so uncomfortable. But I can't complain when I remember what you went through!! Have your clinic spoken to you about it at all? Will you be at risk for your FET?

Star Because of PCOS I can't handle being vegan - it is just SO hard to get enough protein! But I only eat eggs from my own chickens, and try to keep dairy to a minimum... I've been veggie on and off for a long time. I really struggle with my own feelings on it! I try to be rational, but it's so difficult. Your training sounds really interesting!! What made you decide to follow that route?

Dbear I've had a lot of random arguments with OH through this. It was pretty tough at the beginning but now I've got him doing my injections he's feeling a bit more involved. I still need to make more effort though...

Speaking of OH, he can't come to the scan on Thursday. I know on balance it will probably be fine, but I catastrophise, and keep thinking "how am I going to drive home if there's bad news?"... I know it's ridiculous. Sometimes I feel like a teenager, I am so NOT in control of my emotions.

Anyhoo, I've gotta get going, train soon! Hopefully I can get wifi on the train so I can keep chatting :) Hope everyong is staying warm!

Starlumiere · 30/10/2017 17:31

Dinks in the UK it is a lot easier than most other EU countries to be veggie/vegan, but it is true that it is quite hard sometimes to remain Vegan at 100%. One needs to adapt!!

I actually studied many things (i just love learning!) I am also a Yoga Teacher, Meditation, among other things Smile. When i started working in Business I felt it was very much a man's world, I needed a balance and find my femininity, hence the reason why embarked in other subject parallel to my demanding role.

Minster didn't your friend have a scan today? Hope all is good sweetie Smile

otters2017 · 30/10/2017 17:41

Hope everyone has a good Monday

harry how's the backache? I'm counting down with you. Slightly tempted to test tomorrow but equally scared so prob wait till wed

rose how did you scan go?

elizabeth how are you feeling? Hope you get your FET in dec!

atik agree with dinks about the clash between western and Chinese med. I've been having acupuncture for a few months as it was recommended and i was getting desperate. Before the egg collection he put needles in my tummy and put a heat lamp on but after the embryo transfer he didn't, just used arms and legs. He agreed with western med doctor no direct heat on the embryo (hot water bottle, hot bath) but he said to keep my feet warm as it connects to the uterus (!) he also said to drink warm drinks rather than cold so that's what I've been doing

minster how did it go for your friend? It the lining optimum now? And how are the puppies?

Atikakck · 30/10/2017 17:45

Tomorrow ma app to check if am ready to build lining... Ano dis medication guna make me fat, nd me all De tym making curry's not guna help aswell loll

Star - cum ova luv nd help me meditating xx ;)

dinksandbinks · 30/10/2017 18:06

Star I think you need to tell us all how to meditate!! I bet we could do with some chill out time!! You are clearly very talented... envy!! I loved to learn too, but then did a PhD and that killed it all off lol. I still have music lessons but will never be a master... I don’t practice!!

dinksandbinks · 30/10/2017 18:07

Atik I have my fingers crossed for your appt tomorrow! Hope everything is going according to plan!!

Minster2012 · 30/10/2017 18:38

Hello, sorry for the radio silence today, been quite emotional. I was focusing on the puppy & keep busy to not think about the scan then all of a sudden it hit me this morning after being out & about carrying pupster to socialise her that “shit, we’re going to know if in theory the transfer can happen next week in an hour or so” and also I had a bit of a freak out as I had to leave the puppy (& my other dog alone) for about 2.5hours whilst we went to the appointment. Not a problem for DDog, but puppy has been screaming whilst I left her in a crate on her own with radios on whilst walking DDog yesterday & this morning, she doesn’t like the crate which is not good as it’s for her own safety & to assist in toilet training. Anyways she’s actually nailed toilet training, not had an accident since the afternoon we got her on Saturday which is amazing so as she didn’t like the crate I left her & DDog have fun of the hall whilst at appointment. Got back to no screaming, happy dogs & no accidents 😀😀😀amazing!! But on the way I got a bit tearful about her & everything I think.

Anyway. Sorry. SCAN GREAT!! lining 9.3mm, FET going ahead next week!! And they said if progesterone low on Monday they can top up with an injection it just means friend has to wait around for the results. 😀😄😃 we’re there, we have a plan again!!

So what about everyone else?!!

otters weds is close so hold off darling, only one full day & 2 sleeps!!

rose how was your scan?

dinks I would be the same in your position on driving home, have you told anyone else? Having had to drive home after bad news at hospital u can just do it if it’s close before it really hits you but I don’t advise it. If there’s ANYONE else who knows who can even stay in the car then do that. A taxi would even be better & say “I’ve had bad news” if they are talkative. I hope you can get a heartbeat but just in case?

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Aliona19 · 30/10/2017 18:59

dinksandbinks 😂 walking carpet. She is fine, will post a photo on old thread where other girls do 😁 she is naughty as always.
Rent here is a disaster and I hate to work just to pay rent and obviously no way I can safe to buy a place. But don’t think it’s easy just to move away..I went to Scotland in August first time ever and didn’t want to leave. Everyone laughing at me saying “go back there in winter first” 😂
I agree with minster about anyone else coming with you..Well depends on what person you r. I would prefer to be alone, even when bad news-I need to get over it first myself. Let’s just hope it’s all good news and you will be singing away on your way home

I received a letter today saying they book an appointment for me for 17 November. Just weird how they wanted to cancel my cycle coz of risk of hyper stimulation but then making appointment one month after egg collection 🤔 so no one bothered how am I feeling?

Minster yay! One step closer for you. Good things come to one who wait and you waited long enough! 😘

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RoseWrites · 30/10/2017 19:49

minster whoop! So glad things are moving along. You and your friend must be delighted 😊 here's to lots more positive news😚

Dinks I'm with the others. If someone else can drive you home i think that would be good. Or get a taxi. You'll probably be fine driving, but at least it's one less thing to worry about.

To wade in on the London convo, I left last year after being there for around 9 years. I thought I'd only stay for 6 months but I LOVED it. The house prices/expense thing is insane, but you weirdly get used to it, and end living to your means. I do miss It, and can't get a job like I had there (politics) but I have to say it is lovely living in a smaller, quieter city where you can afford to have a car and stairs in your house!

Thanks for asking about the scan :) it was fine. I have 11 follicles, which I think is low to average? I need to up my meds and go back on Friday. The consultant seemed relaxed, but I just felt like it wasn't working properly, focused on the negatives, and burst into tears as we left. My dear OH was wonderful and made me realise that it's all fine, and going to plan. I think I've just been a bit all over the place today and can't quite manage to keep things in perspective and not be a negative Nancy!

My OH cooked me my favourite curry and poured me a large glass of (alcohol free!) Wine and now feel more on a level.

It's really bloody hard staying on a stable level... star please send some calming meditation vibes my way 😂