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IVF Cycle Buddies July/August

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BiscuitBill · 04/07/2017 20:17

Hi all! I know there's a June/July thread but I've started this one as I'm so far behind everyone else and wanted to find others at the same stage as me!

We're due to start a FET after a failed fresh cycle in march resulted in a CP. We got 5 Frosties which I'm so pleased with and we're putting two frozen ones back this time.

AF came yesterday, so I'm booked in for scratch on 24th of this month and start DR on 22nd.

I joined a thread on my last cycle and it helped me so much as I am very private with all of this. So I'm hoping to find others to share with again 😊

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thegamblersmrs · 18/07/2017 15:57

Goodness me thirty the costs sound crazy. I feel pretty guilty that I'm not paying.
Is going up a dress size from the bloating alone or does it make you more hungry?

I did the opposite with the hair, I've gone full on white pixie which I know needs maintained every 4 weeks. I swear I'm one silly bitch!

Whatamuddleduck · 18/07/2017 21:41

Aw thanks thirty. I must have been bad this morning; there were flowers waiting for me when I got home (third time in 9 years), lovely DP.

The day got mire positive. I both got the job I went for and downreggibg bleed started. Not sure which I'm most excited about!

Zita west IVF diet book turned up today. Seems quite good so far, very much about supporting your body rather than promising sure fire 'cures'.

I like the idea of haircuts and shopping. Think I might need to join you all!

FloofyFloo · 18/07/2017 21:48

@missmel I can't work out if I am being foul because it is legitimately hot and the kids are legitimately on one (age 7, sports day tomorrow), because work is being overly intense (a lot of classroom moving and general restricting, including me becoming senco which is causing everyone to be super busy) or because of the hormones. I suspect it's everything but I really really need to chill for just a minute! Roll on Friday!

My mum won't mention this ever again. She's not the questioning type, but now when I'm pregnant eventually it won't be a shock I guess. It sucks having a weird parent relationship, even though we're coping adults!

@duck headspace actually helped find a modicum of calm this morning. Last time I actually wanted to throw it at the wall. So I guess swings and roundabouts!!

@thirty that sounds a bit out of order of them, but I guess privately they can just charge what they like? It's so unfair!

I haven't really cooked at all since being a hormonal monster, DH is verbally not overly supportive, but is actually being a star.

Although as I write this he's complaining....

@gamblers the hair sounds cool! I have an absolute mane of hair and it's a nightmare in this weather (all weather).

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thegamblersmrs · 18/07/2017 22:18

That's nice re the flowers, and that's prompted me to download the zita west book too!

Floo, my DP is exactly the same re verbal. Can't have over analytical irrational conversations with him which I need at times. Mostly because me and my mum used to spend an our a night over analysing every little problem we had on the phone. He is great other wise, does all the cooking and generally just fixes life. Wish he'd lift a hand to help with the house work but I'm picking my battles just now!

Nowwhyareyoucrying · 19/07/2017 08:20

Wow gamblers your hair sounds bloody amazing! I dream of getting a pixie cut but I haven't been brave enough to do it yet, v short bob is all I've managed.

Thirty are we on the same schedule? When will you start injections? Oh and I didn't mean to worry you about the scratch, the pain really wasn't that bad, I'm just in the 1% that has a vasovagal reaction, I'm a bit of a fainter anyway! Pain wise it's manageable.

Duck is the Zita west book worth a read, I'm doing acupuncture and my lovely lady gave me a print out of some of her stuff which was interesting. Maybe I should get the book too.

Your DPs sound like they are being lovely. Mine is being sooo much better than I thought he would, he's got some family stuff going on at the mo and so is likely to be away when I start the injections which makes me nervous but can't be helped. Do you guys know if they HAVE to be done in the morning or can they be done in the evening? Does it just have to be the same time everyday?

thegamblersmrs · 19/07/2017 09:23

Crying it feels nice and light and bed head is actually the same as going out hair. I'd recommend it to anyone!

Keen to know a bit more about the Zita west book. I downloaded the sample but it wasn't clear if there were recipes.

Last day of normality before my first injection tomorrow!! Argh! DP going to the football tonight, bit miffed but he's not been in years so I'm pretending to be happy. I think I'll go to the gym then yoga and zen myself the fuck out!

BiscuitBill · 19/07/2017 16:37

I lost all my hair a couple of years back when I was really poorly with my endometriosis.. So chopping it all off again is my worst nightmare! I actually pay £350 to get it glued to my head.. but only until it's fully grown back! Although I must admit I do love shoving it in a messy bun ontop of my head out of the way half of the time!

I've had a look at these recipe books, but I am a VERY fussy eater so not sure how I cope. The good thing is I eat quite healthy anyway!

My DP loves a good old chin wag & to get everything out in the open, where as I am quite the opposite! I love to bottle things up & pretend they're not happening 😊

He's currently coming out of the marines after 15 years so it's a massive life change for both of us! We don't like to do things by halfs lol!

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thegamblersmrs · 19/07/2017 18:02

It's true what they say, opposites attract!

I'm very jealous of the messy bun, I'd love to be able to pull that off. That's an awful time you've had bill. Hope things really are taking a turn for the better.

I eat very healthy also purely because fatty, fried and greasy food makes me feel very ill and bread/pasta/potatoes make me feel very bloated for days so I know I'm not getting enough of these foods and wondering if I need to up them. I mostly survive off chicken and salad and lunch and meat and veg/salad at nights.

chivintassle · 19/07/2017 19:24

Hi ladies, can I join please? in terms of background, 1 mc at 12w (4yr ago) and few chemicals since. Am 39 and been TTC for 6y+, and always hoped it would just happen! after being in NHS system for 18m with clomid not working we had a failed round in may, now back on the treadmill in a private clinic in London. I'm on pill now and due to start injections on 31st, so think maybe a bit behind.

Ironically I had a haircut this week too, gone from long to short, without even realising that the Kob?! Existed!!
I'm sorry all you lovely ladies are here too, wishing you all big luck and great chemistry!

thegamblersmrs · 19/07/2017 19:32

Not behind chivin, I only start my first injunction tomorrow so will be about same.
Sorry for your loss and that you're in the same boat but welcome!

I'm interested that lots of people have been given different options. My NHS clinic offer ivf/ICSI and nothing else unless you want to pay.

The kob?

BiscuitBill · 19/07/2017 19:46

And I don't start mine till Sunday! So sorry you've been through a hard time, hopefully we've started a lucky thread here 🙏🏼

Is the kob short at back long at front?

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chivintassle · 19/07/2017 19:52

Yeah we had ivf and icsi if they deemed required, just did ivf and afterwards when only 4 fertilised (from 8) they said with hindsight should've done icsi!!!! That's NHS for you. I had 1 2day put back and got BFN, and one frozen, but they didn't know if it fertilised correctly (only saw one dot not two) so since then I'm taking ridiculous amounts of vitamins and supplements to try and boost egg number and quality. So have to see if it works!!
Kate Middleton bob! (So someone at work told me!)

thegamblersmrs · 19/07/2017 19:54

Ah! I didn't even know kate had a bob!

What vitamins are you taking, I'm only taking the pregnacare ones but wondering if I should be taking anything else.

chivintassle · 19/07/2017 19:57

What aren't I taking!! So... 1000mcg optimised folate, gamma E, 240g RLipoic acid, 1000mg vitamin C, 300mg bio ubiquinol and pregnacare! Phew.

chivintassle · 19/07/2017 19:59

I read 'it starts with the egg' and I'm 2 and a half months in of taking as 'they' say it takes 3 months to take effect, so we'll see!!

Whatamuddleduck · 19/07/2017 20:03

Hi everyone

More of us starting injections.! I find it weirdly exciting that we are all getting going!

Disaster on the way home today. A car crashed into mine on a roundabout. Thankfully everyone's fine. Hassle I could do without! I keep thinking about it, I'm 99% sure it was caused by the other driver but a bit of me in wandering whether the drugs have addled my mind more than I realise. Worrying thought!

The Zita west book is quite good. It's a mix of recipes (mainly Mediterranean type eating) and their thoughts on micro nutrients and the impact of life style changes. I Like that it's about supporting you through IVF rather than a set diet that you must follow to be successful. I'm going to pick bits from it I think.

How are the injections going for those that have started? Anyone else find it easy to get in some days and have to literally stab yourself on others?

thegamblersmrs · 19/07/2017 20:12

Duck oh crap, that's sounds like you've had a rubbish end to your day. I hope feet up now. Try not to worry about it, you can't change what's happen but you can learn from it.

Now I'm a bit worried I'm not taking enough, they really don't recommend anything at my place other than folic acid.

chivintassle · 19/07/2017 20:17

duck hope you're ok, try not to worry too much, know it's easy to say!

gamblers I'm old with limited time left so throwing kitchen sink at it! This came from the book not clinic, last clinic said 1x berocca a day was enough.

Really not looking forward to injections again, the buserelin was painful and bruised me quite badly. Just focusing on end game 🙈

thirtyplusone · 19/07/2017 20:52

welcome chivintassle! Can I ask which clinic youre at? We're at the lister. Loving the kob!

Duck Im so sorry to hear that, I know how scary that can be - especially afterwards thinking about it, sending you lots of love. Don't dont dont second guess yourself, the main thing is everyone is OK. Have a nice bath and a glass of wine maybe :)

Bad news today, again, really feel like we deserve a break here Sad My smear test result came back positive, borderline changes high risk cells, past have been clear - and borderline can go back to clear again apparently but I dont want anything to stop our process. We have our nurse appointment tomorrow I'm terrified she'll put the brakes on. Desperate to talk to someone about this but it's so much to put on someone else, Mr Thirty is being amazing. I dont many friends so to speak, my few close friends live outside of london or abroad, my best friend just had a baby so not the ideal candidate, no work colleagues being self employed. Oh, balls.

Im supposed to start my injections in about a week - were going on holiday, only suffolk but staying on the pill for another week so I dont miss any scans. Let's see what tomorrows nurse appointment brings Brew

chivintassle · 19/07/2017 21:00

Hi thirty I'm at IVI in London, considered ARGC but got swayed to IVI. We'll see. Can you get a second smear done? I think I had this years ago and was redid and all fine.
I have only told one friend and I don't particularly like talking about it all with her, 2 kids no issues the usual, although she tries some people just don't get it! Likewise no friends in London to talk to as work here and go home it the SW at the weekends.
We're in this together, so will help each other through 😀

thegamblersmrs · 19/07/2017 21:45

Thirty, that's all you need. You can talk as much as you want in here, I know it's not the same but at least we can empathise.
I'm a worrier, I worry if I've nothing to worry about. I actually wondered if my worry has fried my egg.
Thinking about your situation if you take fertility out the question I'd have a bit of worry as to why the results have come back like that ( lots of friends have had those results and next test has checked out fine) adding fertility back into the equation I'd be feeling the same as you, screw this holding up my process just get the bloody embryos into the womb. It's a tricky one.
A friend also told me they don't do a smear on a pregnant woman as you can get a false result, i.e. Shows abnormalities. Could the drugs maybe have reacted the same way and the result isn't accurate?

Nowwhyareyoucrying · 20/07/2017 08:07

Oh no duck how annoying about the car, try not to stress though, hopefully it will be sorted quickly.

Zita west book sounds good, I always struggle with recipe books like that though as we are vegetarian so probably won't end up being able to eat most of the recipes, annoyingly.

I'm taking a good multi vitamin with iron (floradix), coq10 and vitamin d spray . I've taken loads of stuff over the years and just wanted to cut it down to the basics.

Welcome chivin! Sorry to hear about you mc. Fingers crossed for this round though, for all of us.

Thirty I'm sure they will just do another smear, I know there is quite a margin for error with the results so hopefully they will do a second and it will come back clear. If not it's best to get it sorted asap and then you can get back to it.

I got all my injections and stuff out properly last, and had a look through it with DH. It was very overwhelming. I'm worrying about stupid stuff like the fact that I've only got 2 gonal-f pens when my notes say I will get 3. And the fact there are no alcohol wipes with the pens, do I not need to clean my skin? There is also an air bubble in one of the pens which I hope will clear when I attach the needle, otherwise I have to 'refer to the booklet'. Ahhh! Do you guys ice where you will inject? And will you get the pen out the fridge early so the liquid isn't cold? If my DH is away when I do the first one I think I might completely freak out.

thegamblersmrs · 20/07/2017 08:58

I've just arrived for my first injection!
That's given me some good questions to ask the nurse crying.

Argh! It's all starting.

Just clocked the success rate at my clinic for my age bracket which is 49.7%. The age bracket is 19-35 so I suspect the young uns help to increase it but the next bracket is 43%.

thegamblersmrs · 20/07/2017 10:00

Didn't get a chance to ask much as my DP went a shade of grey/green and had to use the bed. I then had to get my injection propped up on the chair. I'm now trying to look after him. I'm sure at some point today he'll ask me how I am EnvyGrin

chivintassle · 20/07/2017 15:11

crying I think the pens have a dial for getting rid of the air bubble. My final jab last time was a pen. Was so much easier than mixing! I didn't use ice, don't have a freezer in London, only a fridge!
gamblers that's great %, sadly it falls off a cliff when you get to my age. With hindsight wish we'd cut NHS out and gone private 2 yrs ago as % would've been so much better. Oh well. So funny he went grey, guess you won't be getting much help doing them from him! I had to do all mine, DH did none!

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