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Clomid - hoping for bfp's

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Footy1 · 04/04/2017 07:09

Hi, thought I'd start a new thread...

My stats-

Age 39
Ttc #3
Irregular cycles
Clomid 100mg & Metformin 1000mg
Been trying for 12 months (6 on clomid)
Cd10Star

Bad hot flashes in the night, headaches in the morning.. no twinges yet this cycle.

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Ktmp · 18/04/2017 14:46

I didn't know there can be an issue with success if you don't have a big AF first? That may (hopefully) explain our failure 🤞

Are you sure you haven't ovulated Footy? I wouldn't take the AF pills for a while yet just in case (but I am living in eternal hope with the stupid fantasy that no AF means bfp!)

Day 5 for me so start of testing on the clearblue from tomorrow. Really hoping to see a peak this cycle!

otters2017 · 18/04/2017 14:57

footy oh I really feel for you. I know what it feels like. Its a tough on. I do think you need AF - I think of it as a good clear out and re setting your system. How long are your cycles normally? Cd 24 is still early so if it's a long cycle you may just ovulate later. I'd wait a bit more then consider taking the pills.

ktmp good luck with testing. Hope you get your peak this cycle!

KP86 · 18/04/2017 16:57

Unfortunately the big clear out didn't make a positive difference to me. After last cycle there was no chance of there being anything left in my body! This one has been a lot more typical for me, although perhaps still slightly lighter than normal.

For those not getting peaks, does your doctor have any advice about it? I wish we had someone (knowledgable) we could call to just ask questions like this!

Ktmp · 18/04/2017 17:35

KP - my doc is useless. All I know is that my scan, HSG and all other tests were fine. DH sperm analysis was normal. Was just a case of her putting me on Clomid to 'See what happens'. I'm not convinced I'm not ovulating though. Had a few positives over the months on internet cheapies. The two 21 day bloods I had didn't really shed much light on ovulation issues - the first wasn't really day 21 (because I didn't get to day 21 when my cycles were very short) and the second was day 24 due to a late positive on a stick and that was scored 27.

Ktmp · 18/04/2017 20:06

Biggest unexpected side effect of Clomid?

Mine is incredibly apparent today. For the past 20 years I've been a chronic migraine sufferer. I've had every type of treatment possible to keep me functioning on a day to day basis with some complete failures and some short lived success. About 18 months ago I was put on botox injections and had the best outcomes I could hope for, at least 3 consecutive days pain free. Now, due to me actively under fertility treatment (ie taking clomid) I'm not allowed it due to lack of research on the impact. I'm not having ridiculously painful occipital nerve block needles every 4 weeks and can't help feeling that if Clomid doesn't work it's just pointless.

Ktmp · 18/04/2017 20:07

*now having

Ktmp · 19/04/2017 06:42

Well first test on clearblue, day 6 - high?! Not sure whether that's good or a sign of another 20 tests wasted!

KP86 · 19/04/2017 11:36

Oh, KTMP, migraines must suck.

I have no idea about OPKs so can't really help you there! Do you mean that you're surprised to be having a high already? Maybe start DTD every second day between now and when you get lows in a couple of weeks to be sure...

otters2017 · 19/04/2017 11:49

ktmp migraines really suck. Sorry you're having such a hard time. I didn't realize it would impact migraine treatment.
I echo kp and agree on dtd EOD until the clear blue gets to a zero. Mine is still a flashing smiley and I'm getting worried that it won't be static. Even if it does I'm worried that it's too late in the cycle or does it not matter if the egg gets fertilized ?
So many unknowns and uncertainties! Argh
Happy Wednesday all Smile

KP86 · 19/04/2017 11:51

Otters your luteal phase may also be extended and therefore end up with a longer cycle. Generally I seem to start AF about two weeks after I think I OV even if that's 'late' by typical standards (usually around CD18-24).

otters2017 · 19/04/2017 18:49

Ok so will wait and see what happens. One minute I feel fine, the next I'm worrying and stressing. It's so difficult to know what to think and there's always a constant worry! I think the desperation doesn't help!

Footy1 · 19/04/2017 20:58

Kt sorry u are getting migraines.

Anyone else get that feeling like the bed is tipping backwards? I've been feeling like that a few times in the night. Had to go to docs about something else and thought Id mention it. She took my bp which was ridiculously low. So she was a bit concerned!
She doesn't think it's the clomid though. Got to have a full blood count blood test tomorrow.

Not sure about the clear blue tests for peak fertility. I tried one before with the smiley faces on and I kept getting a flashing one every few days. My consultant said that don't work so well with fertility drugs or irregular cycles. So I gave up.

Still haven't ovulated Sad think I'm out now for this cycle. However my cervix is very very high and very soft so u never know.?

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Ktmp · 19/04/2017 21:25

Thanks everyone!

KP I was surprised at the high straight away. Only used internet cheapies before but now I'm using the monitor and last month got lows day 6 and 7 then highs for 17 days then low. Was desperate to see a peak come up on the screen just for my own sanity! Already looking like this cycle is different! Definitely agree on EOD! We got into a good pattern doing this last cycle so hopefully same will happen again. Started on day 4 this time!

Footy - I've had few weird dizzy spells over the last few days, usually when I'm walking though and my head does it's own shift. Had my bp taken yesterday for my needles and she didn't say anything so guessing it's ok. Hope the bloods give some answers for you.

Footy1 · 19/04/2017 21:46

Kt I temp and find my temperature goes high the day after I start clomid and stays high for about 7 days after, then drops. Thus could mean that the clomid causes the peak then drops again. Can imagine it's confusing for you. Eod will cover it though. I too do eod. You can imagine how frustrated I feel that we have done eod since day 7 and on day 25 and still haven't ovulated! My Dh is exhausted- blames me for his grey hairs.

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otters2017 · 20/04/2017 11:57

I'm still getting flashing smileys and I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever get a static smiley! Worried as it's cd 17 now and may mean I won't ovulate (again) this cycle.
I don't know if IC opks will be better but don't think I'll be good at reading the lines.
We were going to try EOD this cycle but DH has been extra keen and as we had a week off it's been ED! Definitely no chance of missing that egg if it's there!

otters2017 · 20/04/2017 11:57

Also I have day 21 bloods booked for mon but don't know if I should have it later in the week seeing as I haven't ovulated yet.

KP86 · 20/04/2017 12:33

Otters, the lines on the cheap tests are very easy to read. Unless it's the same or darker than the control it's not positive. No squinting, ever!

SummerHopin · 20/04/2017 12:56

Hi ladies, just checking in although nothing to report.

Having a bit of a worry that I havent ovulated either as I havent really felt anything. I had a bit of EWCM at the weekend and have got my d21 test tomorrow morning, but for some reason I am now thinking that maybe it didnt happen. I didnt do OPKs, I didnt want the stress and the risk of mis-timing.

We have been keeping on with EOD apart from over easter when we put in some extra bonus shags for good measure :)

otters it may be that Mon is early for you, can you ring the clinic about it and see what they say? If I had gone by my cd12 scan I would have had my progesterone test when I was actually just supposed to ovulate, so that would have shown a dudd reading anyway. Thankfully its been moved back a week or so which means hopefully it might be a more accurate reading of what is going on.

Interesting about the constant flashing smilies too - thats a characteristic of PCOS as your LH is consistently slightly higher which can cause false positives. But you've been checked for that right?

Hope everyone else is ok.

SummerHopin · 20/04/2017 18:48

Just been baby bombed. DHs step sister. They miscarried before xmas so 1. We knew they were trying and 2. I am happy for her as I know how hard not being pg can be.
......and yet, I feel a pit in my stomach. DH didn't tell me to start with as he didn't want me to be upset. I have become the person ppl can't talk babies to because I can't have them. That makes me sad, and angry. I got mad with DH for not telling me, but he was right, I did get upset.
So now I feel bad for getting onto DH, bad for not being happy for SIL, and bad because I hate the person that ttc has made me. 
This whole thing is just total shit.

KP86 · 20/04/2017 19:09

Summer, that's awful for you. You're not a bad person. It's bloody hard.

A friend of mine had a baby this week and we were talking about it at one of the toddler groups which made everyone start talking about having another (particularly referring to the mums who have DC around 2yo) and it made me feel really crap. I'm very happy for my friend but also rather envious! Makes me realise how much I really want to be pregnant.

Even though it would mean going through the tough parts again, just as we seem to be reaching DS's 'I'm a real, fun child now' stage, I realised I do want it.

Ktmp · 20/04/2017 19:30

Oh Summer! Can definitely understand how you feel! (Also what a brilliant way to describe it - baby bombed!)

I had another member of staff come up to me this week staring she dreamt I was pregnant and that it always comes true. I found myself doing the whole 'i hope not!' conversation as I don't want it known that I am trying (and failing) and also because I barely bloody know the woman!

DH just keeps saying that our time will come.

InThisTogether · 20/04/2017 20:30

We've been ttc for about 3.5 years now , diagnosed with pcos, was refused clomid as bmi was too high for my local health authority. It was a real low point for me, felt i wasn't being listened to and i got more and more desperate. I have to confess i bought Clomid off the internet, although thankfully didn't use it. I Was given 3 months worth of prescription clomid from a friend which I took for the last 3 months.

First month after i didn't take it (a natural cycle as I'd run out of my friends pills) i got my bfp, and currently 7+3 with an early scan (private) next week.
I don't honestly know if the Clomid made a difference or not but i do know that persevering definitely worked in the end!
It's bloody hard though when everyone except you is pregnant and you have to pretend it's fine when inside you're getting more desperate.
Good luck!

InThisTogether · 20/04/2017 20:30

We've been ttc for about 3.5 years now , diagnosed with pcos, was refused clomid as bmi was too high for my local health authority. It was a real low point for me, felt i wasn't being listened to and i got more and more desperate. I have to confess i bought Clomid off the internet, although thankfully didn't use it. I Was given 3 months worth of prescription clomid from a friend which I took for the last 3 months.

First month after i didn't take it (a natural cycle as I'd run out of my friends pills) i got my bfp, and currently 7+3 with an early scan (private) next week.
I don't honestly know if the Clomid made a difference or not but i do know that persevering definitely worked in the end!
It's bloody hard though when everyone except you is pregnant and you have to pretend it's fine when inside you're getting more desperate.
Good luck!

SummerHopin · 20/04/2017 21:14

Thanks guys, thank you. I know that every one of you can relate to this feeling - and so can SIL which is what was making me feel so shit not being first and foremost happy for her. I have had a lot of good fortune in the last few weeks with AF and clomid and our follicle, so I know I need to put my big girl pants on about this.....tomorrow though. Tonight I'm in my pjs and eating chocolate. Getting through this day by day.

otters2017 · 20/04/2017 22:07

oh summer completely understand how you feel. You are not a bad person at all and ttc does change you. It is really awful and tough and at times I feel like I'm going crazy.it's all I can think about day or night and I'm getting more and more broody which doesn't help.
Thanks for your story inthistogether it's really encouraging and helpful. Good luck with your pregnancy, hope it goes well and that the scan goes perfectly.

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