Secondary infertility support group here!

[Annabellaboo]

Ladies-I hope we all find each other here from the original thread! I didn't realise we had ran out of room on the other thread! Shout if you are there!

[AurorasEncore]

Maybe it's a little low and you could try getting it up a bit but I always think that women in the third world starving with no prenatal vitamins can get pregnant no problem. And they are probably more stressed than us with our first world problems. After I have seen the state of my uterus I don't feel guilty having a larger tonight and missing the gym - as you say bring strictly healthy and miserable for 2 years didn't make s scrap of difference!

[cheesecakeandchips]

Yeah you are right there! It's just so annoying that there is no reason for it. I keep hoping and then get constantly disappointed.

I know, gave up alcohol for a year at one point to see if that would help, and nothing. I guess at least we saved some money.

Enjoy your larger!!!

[Annabellaboo]

HI Auroras- just had a little look to catch up on the latest. I am so glad you’ve found the reason finally, even though it’s potentially not a great outcome, I know how relieved I felt to finally get an answer. I also felt let down by the nhs. Did they never offer you an hsg? That’s one of the first tests I did get with them to be fair once I was referred.
Isn’t serum great? Did you see penny? I couldn’t believe the state of uterus too and 3 months after my clean up and following a similar protocol to you it sounds, we got our bfp. Really hope it’s the same for you and your tubes aren’t totally blocked. Did you get sent home with the enzyme serraptase?? I swear that stuff is a miracle worker, and from what I understand it can potentially unblock tubes if scar tissue is the issue.
Harry- keeping everything crossed for you and this 2ww.
Cheesecake-welcome to this v helpful group that was such a support to me in the darkest of times. I hope you get some answers soon, you’ve waited long enough!
As for me, I’m now 35 weeks and can’t wait to meet our little girl. It’s been a difficult pregnancy as I’ve not felt well throughout, but I am forever grateful. A year ago I didn’t imagine I would be at this point ever again and had almost given up hope. Hold in there ladies, there is always hope xx

[BocaDeTrucha]

SOrry, can I just jump on this thread as there’s no where else I feel I can say how I feel. Ds is 4 and was conceived via egg donation. It was our first attempt after a drastically abandoned first attempt at ivf. I have premature ovarian failure and although we had 4 embryos stored in case we wanted to try for a sibling, that attempt didn’t work. At the time we were very clear that if the defrosting wasn’t successful, we would leve it there and just accept and be happy with just our wonderful ds. That is more or less the case but today I found out my SIL is pregnant with her her third and my first reaction was floods of tears. I have this terrible, unhealthy attitude to people embrking on their third pregnancy. With a second I totally understand why anyone would have one, but three just seems unnecessary and, when you can’t even have a second, I just feel so horribly jealous. I’m happy for her, of course, but can’t put behind me the feeling of having my nose rubbed in it. I know, I know I’m unreasonable but I just need some words of sense to get me to pull myself together!

[AurorasEncore]

Hi @annabellaboo can't believe your little girl will be here very soon, what a success story it gives me so much hope! Serum are great, I didn't see peny I was with Dr Koutoulakis and he performed my hysteroscopy as well, I really liked him. Yes I've been taking serrapeptase they gave me and I really hope it clears up the remainder of dead tissue in my uterus. I'm so terrified for hsg! I don't care about the pain but will be broken if my tubes are blocked. I can't believe hidden infections caused this when all my nhs swabs were clear. I knew it was me and feel guilty and gross. Thank you so much for starting this forum and sharing your journey. There is no way id have found serum or any answers if it wasn't for you x

[Iwantmyhatback82]

Hello everyone, We’re currenlty TTC and did also last year with no success but had to have a break as one of my children was diagnosed with a life limiting condition.

I went to the gynaecologist yesterday about light periods and constant brown spotting and after an internal scan he said it’s “Niche Syndrome” where my c-section scar has a defect and is trapping menstrual blood and causing it’s slow release.

I’m going to be booked in for a Hysteroscopy where he says he’s going to have a good look and clear it out, then do some tests to see if I’m ovulating.

I’m trying so hard to stay positive and whenever I google about this condition it’s quite hard to find any information apart from journal articles. I asked him if this was going to have any effect on TTC and he said it wasn’t going to help and he’d be able to tell me more after the procedure.

Yesterday I felt relief that I’d finally been given an explanation, but this morning I feel angry. This spotting started pretty much straight after my C-Section and I’ve been to the doctors so many times about it. I even saw another gynaecologist two years ago who said it was because I had a lot of blood vessels on my uterus(!) and put me on the pill to stop it when I’d already said that we wanted another child. If this had been diagnosed at the time we’d have had an extra two/three years to TTC or at least try and sort it out. I knew there was a problem and kept on getting pushed away.

I’m sorry if this is the wrong place to put this but I don’t feel I have anyone to talk to. I feel awful because I already have two children, but apart from the genuine desire for another child (I knew I wasn’t finished and have always wanted three), because one of my children has a life limiting condition, my other child won’t have any family once we’re gone.

The big frustrating thing I can see about this condition is that it’s not something that can be sorted out with hormones/medication as it’s not hormonal/stress related which was another thing I was told, but an actual physical problem that I cannot do anything about

[AurorasEncore]

Hi Hat, sorry for your diagnosis but hopefully you've found your infertility issues pretty quickly and can start to get them resolved. Have you had your hysteroscopy yet?

[AurorasEncore]

How is everyone else getting on? Very quiet on here. Well I didn't get my bfp miracle from Serum after by hysteroscopy. In fact I'm having really heavy af so hoping it's a big clear out of scar tissue and next cycle will be the one

Got an appointment with consultant who will book me in for a lap and if my tubes are blocked I don't know what I'll do next. At least I'll know though.

[Annabellaboo]

Hi everyone. Just to update you all they I had my baby girl on the 3rd December and she is just perfect. I am so happy and in love. All the heartache and effort was worth it in the end.
Auroras- my bfp didn’t happen until the 4th cycle after my Hysteroscopy. Really hope it works for you too.
Good luck everyone, don’t give up hope because it really can happen.

[AurorasEncore]

Amazing news @annabellaboo I was thinking your baby girl must have arrived by now , a lovely Christmas present for your family.

I'm not having a good time. After bleeding for 20 days I took a test and was bfp. The next morning gp sent me to early pregnancy unit. Had a scan and was praying all was well but sonographer said "I'm sorry there is no pregnancy there". We then saw the doctor who said I might be pregnant it was difficult to say as my cycle was day 20 and just bleeding. We waited for bloods and hcg was 42 so I am pregnant just waiting for next test tomorrow. It's hopeless I feel as every which way I try and calculate it the dates don't work out. I think I miscarried end of last month and hcg is just on it's way down.

One positive thing is I can conceive! After 3 years of nothing at all I finally believe it's possible after my treatment with Serum!

[AurorasEncore]

@tara04 @cheesecakeandchips @bertiebotts @ilovechocolatetoomuch you still out there? X

[Annabellaboo]

Sorry to hear that Auroras. However i do think it’s a positive thing. The fact that you were able to get pregnant at all is such a step forward. Keep taking the serrapeptasse and give it a few months. Your body can do it so now you just have to wait....keep me posted xx

[glittergoat]

New to this but I've already found the thread super useful. Thank you.

Background: two kids four and two, conceived within 1 and 3 months of trying. Been trying for no 3 for 7 months (I know it's not that long but I am nearly 41). Out of that probably four months of DTD enough at the right time (it's hard with two kids and jobs - but knackered and DH doesn't love performing on demand!).

Anyway, I know, I know I am blessed with two already and to have conceived easily but that's not helped - I have this absolute yearning for another one. TBH it's really knocked me I (stupidly I know ) had thought that getting pregnant easily enough was the one physical thing I had going for me (got a couple of other challenges!). I keep coming up against things I thought I would be doing whilst pregnant.

So I have a gynaecologist referral from GP as periods are a bit odd (stop start) and I am wondering if it could be scarring from my two emergency sections. Have also booked an appointment with AMGC....

Any ideas/ stories of hope etc gratefully received !

[AurorasEncore]

Hi GlitterGoat I honestly have no experience of a c section but my best friend has had 2 and after the second she was told it would be dangerous to conceive again due to scaring.. so of it was severe I
I'm guessing they would have told you. I have scaring from an infection which was only picked up by hysteroscopy. It's 'nice' to have you here this thread has gone very quiet, I guess people run out of things to say with the same old shit every month.

As for me the saga continues. After my early miscarriage I went for my 2 week check up to make sure hcg was down to 0 but the urine test showed a faint positive and this was at 3pm! Scanned me and nothing there as expected apart from a couple of cysts which panicked me as never shown up before but was reassured as cysts come and go. I also had some fluid outside the uterus which they can't understand so sent me for another blood test. This came back 49 which was 30 2 weeks ago. So WTF is happening. They now suspect a possible new pregnancy as we dtd last week. I'm not convinced as I would only be 7 or 8 DPO I so don't think hcg in wee would show that early in the middle of the afternoon. I have to have another blood test tomorrow.

We are not getting our hopes up at all. I think it will be ectopic that self resolved but left some tissue too small to see on a scan.

Beyond fed up of all this poking and prodding now!

[AurorasEncore]

Hi all I'm feeling really down at the moment. I'm on cycle day 42 waiting for af to show any day but I can't test my wee as it will be positive but that won't tell me anything!

My 3rd blood hcg was 37 So it has been hovering around the same level for 3 weeks! The doctors are a bit baffled but think it's just taking a while to come down. This limbo is so cruel! I spent new years eve waiting until 9pm to see if it had gone up as they where querying a second pregnancy but it didn't so I cracked open the wine and started the shittest new year of my life.

I'm delusional but I'm clinging onto the hope that I am pregnant and the hcg dipped then started to rise as they tested at 7dpo. They want to test me tomorrow which is a week later. I really don't know what I want the outcome to be..... if it's massive then great a pregnancy, if it's zero then great I'm ok and there's no retained products of conception or an ectopic, or of its the same again.... feck knows what that will mean.

I've been asking doctor google and terrified myself with posibilites of medication surgery or even cancer. How did it come to this? I may have put myself in a situation where i may be unwell and have to be away from my child. All because I am greedy and long for one more.....

[Tara04]

Hi all congrats on your baby girl Anna what fantastic news and thankyou for telling us lovely to be told of a positive outcome,
I'm so sorry your having to go through this aura how did your other test go keeping fingers crossed for you
As for me after loosing my mum my gran passed away at xmas so not a lot happening with ttc right now I just have no interest of it I still long for it but trying to tell my self to just let it go it's been 6 years plus and I just don't believe it will happen unless I have a miracle windfall and can do ivf
Welcome glittergoat 7 months isn't long but as your 40 it's good youv got the ball rolling with gp incase there is any problems but maybe just taking a little longer this time round as when you start to worry there is a problem you realise just how hard it is for some to get pregnant and how lucky we were first time round xx

[AurorasEncore]

Hi Tara nice to hear from you. I hope you got thru Xmas okay without your mum. I know how you feel, it was the first one for me too and I also lost a parent and grandparent within 3 months. It's so shit combined with everything else I know.

My hcg finally went down to 4 and I got discharged. Overall I feel okay about it and I don't really feel a sense of loss as I was heavily bleeding before I even got a bfp so I knew it was not meant to be. My body is trying to tell me something and I think I need to let this go as I know it was close to me having the drugs or surgery.

I'm ovulating and DH has got man flu so that's bd'ing out the window. I'm trying not to get mad. Then I go on WhatsApp and the last girl from nct is expecting. Makes me so fucked off. Why us?

[AurorasEncore]

Not sure if anyone reads this thread anymore but here's a ray of hope....

Just got a clear bfp on a frer this morning. I have mixed emotions after the miscarriage last month and dreading another few weeks of being prodded by the early pregnancy unit. I've not had any pre af spotting or bleeding but I'm only 11 or 12 DPO so I know it's early days but I'm trying to relax and just wait and see.

X

[Flameredbus]

Thats brilliant Aurora keeping everything crossed for you

[AurorasEncore]

Thank you @flameredbus x

[Annabellaboo]

Auroras that’s fantastic! I am sure you have been testing every day since?! I tested at 11dpo and that’s when I got my bfp. Please keep me posted. I have a good feeling

[barnacles2020]

Hi all booked at Hammersmith hospital for icsi treatment (private). Does any one have any experience ?

[Tara04]

Aww congrats aurora that's amazing news sending you all my love for healthy 9 months xx

[AurorasEncore]

Thank you @tara04 and @annabellaboo i am 6 weeks tomorrow. The early pregnancy unit didnt need to see me as i have no pain or bleeding so i was surprised. I suppose there are no signs of a miscarriage so we should all assume that this is a normal pregnancy. I have first midwife appointment on monday so hopefully get an early scan. Ive obvioisly been testing a lot and line has got so dark that i feel happy about that. I just cant get excited yet after my body has played cruel tricks on me for years x

[givemesteel]

I used to be on this thread but a different username (cluelessnewmum which didn't feel appropriate when I had a 3 year old!), just wanted to check in.

Congratulations Aurora I'm very happy for you. And Ilovechocolate congratulations to you also!

My fertility treatment success story is 5 weeks old now and all is well.

Wishing everyone all the luck in the world.