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The mind numbing boredom of infertility IV

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PotatoesPastaAndBread · 20/09/2016 21:24

Yes it's the return of the thread where we're so fucking bored of being infertile and talking about infertility and thinking about infertility and worrying and infertility and learning about infertility treatment and explaining infertility to other people and making up lies to cover up for going for infertility tests and treatment that we can't even be bothered to think of a better name for the thread.

Join us if you are barren, bored and bitter, or any combination of the above. We'll listen to your tails of woe when everyone you've ever met upduffs in an instant, accompany you through the trials of tests and treatment and commiserate the inevitable setbacks and disappointments.

Welcome to the ghetto.

When I can work out links, I'll post linnks to threads 1, 2 and 3

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Joeypotter1 · 24/02/2017 20:40

Hi Close, after extensive scientific research (I looked at some different forums) although many say crinone can stop the af coming there are some women who got their af before the test date so who knows. I just have that I'm coming on feeling coupled with being very windy and also a spot on the chin (I know incredibly attractive) which are the signs that my af is iniment.
Yep, you can definitely see why someone would donate their eggs if they got those reductions Fuzzy.

MrFuzzyGreen · 24/02/2017 21:07

Joey I started with light spotting at about the time AF would have been due, so 14 days after EC. I started to bleed fully the day after I stopped cyclogest (progesterone). So for me it held it off but not completely. I think a lot depends on how high your natural levels are as well. Fingers crossed your symptoms & lovely zit are all good signs, though.

closephine85 · 25/02/2017 04:32

As expected it's a BFN from me. OTD was tomorrow... do I really have to continue all the drugs today or can I stop?

beanhunter · 25/02/2017 07:36

Sorry to hear that close. How many dp are you? My clinic insists you continue to otd but it's earlier than a lot of clinics (9dp5dt).

Sara237 · 25/02/2017 07:45

Sorry to hear that close. It's so shit. Thinking of you x

closephine85 · 25/02/2017 07:57

I'm 10dp5dt so it's pretty conclusive. OTD was tomorrow for some reason but I'm stopping today, just don't see any point prolonging it.

beanhunter · 25/02/2017 08:02

Sorry close. I would too xx

Joeypotter1 · 25/02/2017 08:27

I'm so sorry Close. This is completely up to you but this is what my clinic advises - if on test day it is negative and you have started to bleed, then you'll be advise to stop medication. However, if it's negative and you haven't started to bleed, you may be advised to repeat the test a few days later and stay on the medication unless advised otherwise. Basically speak to your clinic but either way just do what's best for you. Thinking of you x

closephine85 · 25/02/2017 08:47

I'm going to stop. The cyclogest always delays my af (have used it on iui cycles) so I know it's only down to that and looking ahead at my cycles, if I stop now, we might be able to squeeze our FET in at the end of the Easter holidays and get away with not telling anyone we're going.

tigerdog · 25/02/2017 09:46

I'd stop in your position too I think close. Sorry it was a bfn. It's just rubbish, there's no other way to say it. Look after yourself x

closephine85 · 28/02/2017 01:39

Thanks Tiger

Ladies - just wondering if any of you have experienced night sweats during/after treatment? They are wreaking havoc with my health anxiety! I've had them every night for I think about 10 days now, I was blaming the cyclogest but I last used it Friday night - could it still be causing them now? I wake up with my chest and back of neck wet with sweat :(

TammySwanson · 28/02/2017 17:41

Sorry to hear your news, close. Be kind to yourself. I had some night sweats (and day sweats) when down regging but none since then. Everyone is different though so maybe other people have.

When are you testing Joey? Must be soon? Just to confirm what you found - on my last cycle I started bleeding 10dp5dt even though I was still taking progesterone so AF can still happen in that situation for some people.

closephine85 · 28/02/2017 17:58

Thanks Tammy, I looked it up and it appears night sweats are a symptom of progesterone, presnisolone AND aspirin so I'm hoping it's just one of those not yet out my system!

The worst thing about having told people we were going is having to tell them all it didn't work. Definitely only telling on a need to know basis next time. Lesson learnt!

Joeypotter1 · 01/03/2017 19:45

Hi Tammy I tested today and it was negative. It wasn't a big surprise but I was still pretty devastated. I still haven't started my af even though I had well over a week of feeling like it would be starting at any moment and due to a lack of af I have to carry on taking the medication and retest on Friday. After that I'll make my follow up appointment and discuss what's next.
Hopefully everyone else is okay.

closephine85 · 01/03/2017 20:03

So sorry to hear that Joey, it just sucks doesn't it! :( how many dpt are you? I stopped the drugs at 10dp5dt and got AF the following evening. Just didn't want to prolong the limbo any longer.

Joeypotter1 · 01/03/2017 20:30

Thanks Close. I'm 15dp2dt so I know the chances of me being pregnant on Friday is extremely unlikely. The clinic ask you to carry on if you haven't had your af or any spotting as a way of double checking. As you said, once I stop the medication, my af will probably show up soon after. This cycle may have failed but I'm definitely not ready to give up yet.

TammySwanson · 02/03/2017 10:10

So sorry to hear that Joey. Flowers I like the fighting talk but don't forget to give yourself time to recover a bit if you need it.

TammySwanson · 03/03/2017 15:02

Had my egg collection on Monday, 19 collected, 14 mature, 12 fertilized. All go swimmingly until just now when clinic called to cancel ET tomorrow as consultant thinks I've got mild-moderate OHSS (despite feeling fine with minimal bloating) so they will freeze what they can tomorrow. Absolutely devastated. Terrified that none will freeze/defrost ok and on top of that the extra expense of doing a FET which we hadn't planned on. This is really our last chance and maybe it's gone because of my stupid body. Waiting for DH to call so I can break the news. FFS I remember thinking a few days ago how happy we both seemed for the first time in YEARS with the ET booked in for tomorrow and now it's all fucked again.

closephine85 · 03/03/2017 15:38

Oh Tammy I'm so sorry :( how many do you have left today to potentially freeze tomorrow?

I've been reading up on thaw success as I'm having the same stress (2 frozen for an FET in a month or so) and general consensus is that the survival rates these days are very high. A lot of doctors also seem to think that FETs are actually more likely to be successful due to less stress on the body. Probably not anything you need to hear right now though as I completely get that you have been geared up to go ahead tomorrow. Look after yourself (or eat your body weight in chocolate - that's what I've done this week, I've pretty much lived on malteaser rabbits since my bfn last week!).

closephine85 · 03/03/2017 20:01

Cried at the hairdressers today Blush turned up for my longed for and much needed highlights and cut to be told I had got the wrong day (erm no it was definitely THEIR mistake) and there was only time for a colour and rough dry. I was so looking forward to getting my hair done properly and attempting to feel like me again. It was such a disappointment I ended up bursting into tears and telling the guy who was doing the rough dry (because my actual hairdresser was treating my like dirt due to inconveniencing her and proclaiming she didn't have time) everything about our failed ivf Blush turned out he was LOVELY, in his 50's and gay and had longed for children :( we had a good chat about how shit it all is and he even styled my hair for me.

Sara237 · 03/03/2017 21:34

closephine that's awful how bloody dare they but thank god for the lovely gay man! Reminds me of when I went for supposed birthday treat at beauty salon and bitch from hell said there had been mix up and could only fit in basic manicure when i should have had 4 treatments... But what you've been through means you need time and love right now. My first failed cycle made me feel so gutted. Hope you feel more yourself soon. Thinking of you x

Sara237 · 03/03/2017 21:35

Oh and malteser rabbits close lots and lots of them!

icy121 · 03/03/2017 22:06

Tammy I had the same - mild/moderate OHSS (although I felt horrific and was enormous). They froze 7 5-dayers in the end. On ET day they defrosted 3 - first didn't survive, second didn't thaw at first but then had some action, but with black spots and the 3rd was perfect. I only put the 3rd back, but the 2nd was an option as well. Hope this doesn't scare you - and hope you get lots to freeze down.

Cancelled IVF is just another kick in the cunt and a great opportunity to be on the shit side of the stats. I remember the consultant explaining what a freeze all was and being blasé (HAHAHAHAAAA) thinking "oh it won't happen to us".

Extra cost, extra DR, all of that is a total fucker. The only thing I'd say is that on balance I preferred my body's physical state during FET - ovaries not the size of tangerines, plus we had an extra few days to get lining thick enough. Mine tends to be thin (it was thin during ivf cycle, just thick enough) whereas FET felt a bit less pressured to get the elements all in play.

Doesn't help you now whilst you're in the throes of it Flowers. The waiting, the cost, it's just unutterably shit. After it was cancelled and once the belly fluid had gone (cried it out?!), I got utterly fucked up on wine and kept going for a month.

bananafish81 · 03/03/2017 22:27

I did elective FET for PGS (and even if we weren't, we'd probably have not done a fresh transfer because of the risk of OHSS after retrieving 28 eggs. Although we did a fresh transfer after my second cycle when we got 17 eggs and I was fine)

With vitrification the survival rate of embryos is around 95%+ at my clinic

They said euploid embryos generally survive the thaw (in a lab with experience of freezing obvs)

I've thawed a total of 5 blasts and all survived (4 were thawed for PGS testing and all wee abnormal, so were discarded after re freezing)

The 5th we thawed and it survived 100% with no cells lost to the thaw, and transferred (BFP but miscarried)

Receptivity can be decreased after very high levels of oestrogen when high numbers of eggs are retrieved which is why many clinics do elective FET for all patients

For unplanned freeze all my clinic don't charge for the actual embryo freezing (although you do have to pay for FET)

Sorry you've got so much added stress. Just to say freezing is very much a safe option. I'm on groups for women doing PGS where every cycle is freeze all. I've never seen anyone have an embryo that didn't survive the thaw that I can recall on these groups

Good luck x

Joeypotter1 · 05/03/2017 10:28

Hi Tammy. I'm so sorry they had to cancel the transfer. You prepare yourself for each next step and then it's suddenly taken away and on top of that there's also the extra cost too. God, it really is shitty time. I'm thinking of you.
Close, I completely get how you're feeling at the moment. I feel like I'm just about managing to put a brave face on it and hold it altogether. However, if one thing goes wrong I know I'm going to be in pieces. At the moment, I am suffering from a really horrible af with pains shooting down my leg.
I'm back at the clinic next week for my follow up appointment to discuss what went wrong and what are the next steps. It's very unlikely it will be with my eggs next time, as they're probably a bit decrepit, so it will be the donor egg chat.