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FET Sept/Oct

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Lolly2803 · 02/09/2016 17:36

Hi ladies,
I am due to start an FET in Sept/Oct and wondered if anyone else was too?! Had my first cycle of IVF in August but due to fluid in my uterus and thin lining had to freeze everything. I seem to always have fluid mid cycle, including natural cycles. Very worried that it will always be a problem and will never get to use my embryos. Having a hysteroscopy the week after next to check incase anything in there but doc suspects not. Would be great to have a few buddies! xxx

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bananafish81 · 15/09/2016 04:40

Two FRER at 7dp5dt and BFN. Not even a squinter. 😓 Going to ask for a blood test so that I don't have to order more meds just so I can keep pissing on sticks over the weekend.

There's absolutely nothing there, so I'm pretty sure that we are out.

Maybe the Neupogen wash affected the receptivity? Maybe the prednisolone made me end up over suppressed? Maybe the immunes wasn't enough and I wasn't suppressed enough? Maybe DH and I are a DQ alpha match and I won't be able to carry a baby of ours? Maybe my lining just won't ever support a pregnancy?

It was a chromosomally normal embryo so the problem is definitely me.

I honestly can't see that we are ever going to have a baby. 😓

Lolly2803 · 15/09/2016 07:43

Banana I'm so sorry. I didn't realise it was 7DP5DT though, that's early isn't it. And i read with a frozen transfer implantation can take longer. I would see what the doctor says and def get a blood test. You're not out yet. You can discuss all other options when you know for sure. xxxxx

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Bear2014 · 15/09/2016 08:36

Hi Banana - please don't give up just yet, that is still very early. My first BFP after a 5 day fresh transfer was at 9dpt and it was very faint. It can be a day later for frozen, i'm sure. Understandable that you are freaking out of course. Big hug to you xx

bananafish81 · 15/09/2016 08:51

Thanks ladies

I'd love it if it was too early but I'm not expecting it. DH said the consultant said, when I asked him if anyone ever waited till OTD to test (when still off my tits on sedation so only have hazy memories of the conversation), that it did happen that women could have BFN at 7-8 but BFP at 10-12. I would love to be proven wrong but I just feel in my gut that this isn't it.

BFN preferable to another miscarriage I think. Although if it implanted into crappy lining and no immunes, and hasn't even tried this time, it does feel like we've gone backwards.

We said if the cycle failed we would go back to the hysteroscopy and IUD plan. Being on contraception when my due date rolls around doesn't fill me with joy. But neither does another miscarriage.

Will see what consultant says about whether a blood test today would give us any meaningful information.

Xxx

Lolly2803 · 15/09/2016 08:54

Don't give up hope just yet Banana. See what your doctor says. You're not at the end of the road yet, there are still things to try and you've got great embryos so there is still plenty of hope to be had. xxx

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Lolly2803 · 15/09/2016 08:55

Don't give up hope just yet Banana. See what your doctor says. You're not at the end of the road yet, there are still things to try and you've got great embryos so there is still plenty of hope to be had. xxx

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Bear2014 · 16/09/2016 14:00

Hope you're ok Banana xx

bananafish81 · 16/09/2016 14:22

Thanks ladies. Got a faint line today but very faint (who doesn't love pissing on sticks?!)

I bloody hope this doesn't drag on for days (or longer!) and fizzle out slowly. If this isn't viable I really hope we can draw a line under things sooner rather than later!

What's the latest with periods and scans girls? Xxx

bananafish81 · 16/09/2016 14:28

Sorry i missed the crucial bit of information!! Beta hCG yesterday was inconclusive. Under 5 is negative. 25 is positive. 5-25 is inconclusive. Mine was 5 at 7dp5dt

Today's HPT is a superdrug 10iu - the line is faint, so guessing it might have doubled by tomorrow. But my guess is still likely to be a chemical - I don't think something this low (even though it is very early) will be viable

Really hope this doesn't drag out for days and fizzle out slowly - if it's not going to go anywhere would rather draw a line under things sooner rather than later...

Bear2014 · 16/09/2016 14:39

A line is a line - Surely they wouldn't even normally test beta until 9dpt? It's tense but try to hang in there. Really keeping fingers crossed for you.

Going back in on Monday for another scan. On Weds my lining was 6.2 after 7 days on Progynova. I've got no idea if that is good or bad for that stage but they want it to reach 8.5.

bananafish81 · 16/09/2016 14:48

6.2 is great! My Dr said he wanted anything above 5.5mm at my first scan after 6 days of stims. Mine was 6.4mm - know mine was a stims rather than medicated FET, but they're looking for the same target thickness.

Our goal was 8mm by trigger (or day of starting progesterone in a normal FET), although ideally we wanted closer to 9mm. It was 8.4mm 2 days before trigger, so not sure exactly what it got to but it sounds like you are right on track

Yes it was a very early beta. I didn't want to order more meds that I might not need (Lubion is £8 a day!) so when the HPT was negative yesterday, Dr said to come in for bloods. Tomorrow is 9dp5dt - although if it's so faint today I can't imagine the hCG will be doing much tomorrow. Dr said fine to double up on Cyclogest instead of ordering more Lubion - we can order more if bloods suggest we need to!

Bear2014 · 16/09/2016 14:59

Oh that's good - thanks! I knew you would be more informed than me.

It's so annoying with the meds thing. I'm sure cyclogest is fine. Progesterone takes a few days to leave your system anyway doesn't it? Any kind of line at 8dpt is good surely, plus you may only really be the equivalent of 7dpt as FET sometimes implant quite late. Just got to hang tight for a few more days then you'll have more of an idea.

HelloMist · 16/09/2016 15:23

Bear, I've been on progynova 9 days but not due a scan yet (I suppose they couldn't fit me in yet or I'm on a lower starting dose than you?). No experience but I think I saw that 7, 8 is good for FET when I googled it after your earlier post! Hopefully it's well on its way and will be just right by Monday :)

My clinic doesn't do betas I don't think. On the 1 hand it gives extra info... on the other that's more information to stress about! So I'm glad in a way. I didn't think many in the UK did?

I hope you will know either way soon, Banana, and of course do hope that you're wrong thinking it is a CP.

HelloMist · 16/09/2016 15:24

my scan is Tuesday. Just ticking along (willing it to hurry up)

Bear2014 · 16/09/2016 15:28

Hello Mist you're basically at the same stage as me then, cool! I'm on 4 tablets per day.

My clinic doesn't do betas and OTD is always 14 days, whether it's an IUI or a 5 day transfer which is weird but there you go. If you get a BFP they just scan you at 7 weeks and that's the first you know if all is ok.

bananafish81 · 16/09/2016 15:39

My Dr does betas after positive HPT - last time I got a strong positive on 8dp5dt, and we did betas at 10dp, 12dp and then another one at 16dp (because it was slightly slow doubling). The bloods also checks progesterone levels

OTD is 12dp5dt so if it's a negative on a HPT there's probably no point doing a beta as it should be pretty conclusive by that point

I was surprised he agreed to do a beta so early, but I think because I asked if it was definitely negative whether I could restart my pain meds, rather than suffer over the weekend unnecessarily, that's why. Also I think it's potentially useful data - indication of whether it tried to implant or not.

Lining wise my Dr said his minimum for transfer was 7mm but really we were aiming for 8mm+. Dr Sher says 9mm is needed although says 8-9mm is intermediate. Interestingly both said the thickness is much more important than a triple line appearance

Thinking thick for you ladies!!

Xx

HelloMist · 16/09/2016 16:25

Bear, yes! I'm on 4 a day (had been 3 and going up to 5 at weekend).

Glad it's not only my clinic, Bear! That's how mine was last time and I assume it will be again. (Just urine test and then early pregnancy scan if positive). Think OTD was 9dp5dt. Don't know if FET will be the same test date as no trigger in system.

Yes, banana, it could be useful so it's good that your Dr is happy to.

Thanks!

Lolly2803 · 17/09/2016 00:02

Hey ladies, sorry been at a wedding today so just catching up on messages.
Banana, still sounds positive! A line is a line and could be a late sticker - when will you know more? Keeping everything crossed for you!!
HelloMist, sounds like you're thickening up nicely!! When will you know when transfer is?

My period finally came in full flow yesterday. Scheduled for my hysteroscopy on Tuesday which will be day 6 - worried I'll still be spotting a bit then. Shall I tell the clinic? They did say they won't do it if I'm bleeding.
xxx

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Bear2014 · 17/09/2016 13:21

Hi Lolly, great that you finally came on! I would probably just go for my appointment, you might still have a tiny amount of spotting but not sure if that counts as bleeding.

I'm starting to feel a bit bleurgh on this Progynova now, very slightly light headed and a bit vague. Although it could be totally unrelated. Really hope I get a transfer date on Monday and we can get this show on the road! Not that progesterone is any better but hey.

Hope everyone is having a nice weekend x

bananafish81 · 17/09/2016 14:46

Hurrah for AF Lolly

Sorry you're feeling rubbish bear - hopefully scan will show a lovely fat juicy lining for you

Hope you're doing OK hello

Had bloods this morning. Aaarrrrgggghhh. So frustrating. Dr just emailed me the results.

Still in limbo. Looks like a chemical but still can't put it to bed until we've done repeat bloods on Monday to be sure.

"The BhCG has risen to 14 and the progesterone is 41.6

It is a small rise but still very early in the cycle to be 100 per cent sure. I realise it is frustrating but it is worth waiting 48 hours and repeating the test on Monday."

Hopefully Monday will be more conclusive and we can draw a line under things then.

Lolly2803 · 17/09/2016 21:50

Banana that's great it still could be OK. Sounds like you'll know for sure on Monday. How are you feeling? What does the progesterone level mean/show?

Bear fingers crossed you'll get a date on Monday!! Lots of thick and positive thoughts for you. Big day for all on Monday.

So glad AF is here! She came full force but is easing off now so hoping we can still go ahead on Tuesday. Will mention the spotting when they call me on Monday if it's still there. But hoping she is almost done.

Hope you're enjoying the weekend as best you guys can. Xxx

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Bear2014 · 18/09/2016 07:23

Banana - this is torture! Poor you. I guess it's one argument against early testing Confused really hope you get good news tomorrow

Lolly that's great, onwards and upwards!

I've just had my Sunday 'lie in', woken up to the sounds of Dora the Explorer and I'm starving. Off to eat more lining-plumping foods Grin

bananafish81 · 18/09/2016 13:12

Digital is positive (1-2 weeks) but FRER is still negative. I'm losing my faith in First Response!! Xx

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Lolly2803 · 18/09/2016 13:29

Oh Banana how bloody frustrating!!! I can't imagine how you must be feeling. Hope you get more clarity tomorrow but don't lose hope!! xx

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