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BESH - relocated to less offensive surroundings

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cooperG · 03/06/2016 20:50

Hi hags, here's our new thread. Did we decide to post the BESH-tionnaire or not? I'll have to go and dig it out if so..

Newbies - we think we're much like the ladies in the 'mind-numbing boredom of infertility' thread ladies, but we can't admit defeat, oh no. After the new recruits kind of dried up over in conception, we've moved over here where there are no insta-differs to send us into fits of rage/tears.

(BESH stands for Bitter Evil Selfish Hags - named so by the Daily Mail I think...) come and be bitter about the shit-ness that is infertility with us... Wine

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EricaJ · 13/07/2016 12:30

Thanks everyone! I am really, really REALLY bricking it. My consultant rang and he was lovely and understanding, he sent me a prescription for all the drugs and they are calling me to go in today or tomorrow "to make a plan".

I am "working from home" trying to stay away from Google.

I feel embarrassed, like I am going to mc anyway and I am making a fuss and inconveniencing people for nothing... I promise I am not so pathetic in other aspects of my life!

Thisistheplace · 13/07/2016 12:32

It's completely understandable that you're worried. I have no advice, but just take it one day/hour at a time, and feel free to let the crazy out here.

EricaJ · 13/07/2016 12:36

Thanks Place... I foresee a lot of crazy coming out!!

blue2014 · 13/07/2016 12:52

Erica - you are the complete opposite of pathetic .. Remember you are a Hag

Jenbot78 · 13/07/2016 16:18

Hello everyone, not been on for a little while as in avoidance mode about upcoming IVF. Starting DR on 21st July so not long now Erica congrats on your BFP, fingers crossed for you. I love to hear a happy tale, it gives me hope!

Any top tips ladies for jabbing when out and about? I am point blank refusing to stay in all the time while this is all going on as last time it made me feel really really bad!! So, I have at least three social occasions that I need to plan for. Unfortunately there will be no Wine Wine which I will need to find a way to explain (the WORST would be that people assume I am pregnant, what a total nightmare!)

What have people done about a) bringing injection stuff out and b)disposing of needles?

Cheers everyone...

blue2014 · 13/07/2016 17:13

Re:disposal of needle, I heard a genius tip of carrying an empty drinks bottle with you and throwing them in that
(I stabbed at home but all mine where morning anyway)

Thisistheplace · 13/07/2016 17:36

Empty drink bottle sounds good! What do diabetics do? I have to inject once per week for arthritis, but I'm always home for that, plus it's a pen so can just put the lid back on and stash it in my bag.

RebeccaNoodles · 13/07/2016 17:52

My God I've missed a lot!

Erica, that is wonderful news - congrats!! Can only imagine what a cocktail of emotions you must be feeling, but please don't feel like a fraud! I hope the docs can come up with a good plan of drugs and care to give you the best possible chance. Deep breaths!

Thisistheplace I'm so sorry that your aunt's being so horrible. People are just so self-centred. She may think that this is somehow cheering you up.
My MIL recently was complaining that she lives 'so far' (just over an hour) from her daughter and new baby. My mother lives a plane journey away and has dementia, but she literally didn't think of that.

Jenbot78 I think I'll be starting around the same time as you. I am pretty clueless about my cycle except that it's 'short'. Feels pretty long to me.

I'm taking progynova and having my first scan next Monday. I know spotting is a side effect but I'm having a full-on bleed which is a bit worrying. Has anyone else had this?

Thisistheplace · 13/07/2016 20:40

Hmmm, not sure Jen. I didn't have spotting on proynova but I think it'd be a good idea to ring your clinic. And you're right, horrible aunt prob was trying to reach out in her own self centred way, just would have been nice to hear a "are you ok about your brother" in there somewhere...I'm sorry about your mum as well, that must be really hard.

stealthbanana · 13/07/2016 20:50

Hi BESH. V occasional lurker and IVF grad (currently 15 weeks pregnant). Just popping on to recommend empty Berocca tubes for stashing used needles whilst out and about. Just the right size and not see through which is helpful. And you can buy from pharmacies small cool pouches that stay cold for a couple of weeks once activated which are good for having to lug gonal f (or meds that need to be refrigerated) around all day.

Can you tell I travelled a lot whilst stabbing....

Good luck everyone, it is shit but you'll get there 👊🏻

Thisistheplace · 13/07/2016 22:52

Ooo what is the name of this magical cool pouch that lasts so long? Thanks stealthbanana, that's an awesome idea re berroca tube!

stealthbanana · 13/07/2016 22:59

Just found it - they're called FRIO products. Developed for cooling insulin but they hold pens at c 8c so perfect for meds. I bought mine from a (bricks and mortar) pharmacy but Amazon has them too.

frioinsulincoolingcase.com

You just run them under cold water for a few minutes and they puff up and go cold. Then there's an outer pouch that you encase them in. Simple!

stealthbanana · 13/07/2016 23:11

Ps I don't work for/invest in FRIO, as the above essay might imply - sorry about that!

EricaJ · 14/07/2016 08:45

Amazing idea, Banana! And congrats on your successful IVF!

Clexane is pretty portable but nice to have a way of disposing (or safely carrying) the sharps. I also refuse to stay home obsessing for weeks on end.

Thanks Rebecca! I haven't taken Progynova, I would call the clinic as Place suggested.

Hags, any recommendations for audiobooks, podcasts etc? Something engaging I can listen to while walking or cleaning or whatever... to stop thinking thinking thinking all the time.

Thisistheplace · 14/07/2016 11:43

Hmmm, I don't have any recommendations for things to listen to whilst doing other things, but lately I've been watching the great British menu...all episodes are on YouTube. Great show if you're into food and cooking...well a mindless distraction anyway. The cricket has started if you're into that.

How did you get on Rebecca? Did you get in touch with clinic? Still bleeding?

blue2014 · 14/07/2016 12:02

Download audible app and then go with their deal of the day (because it's bloody extortionate otherwise!)

Thisistheplace · 14/07/2016 19:30

Erica, did you meet with your FS to sort out A Plan?

SoSam · 14/07/2016 20:23

So today I had my implications meeting. Wow that was a head fuck! I learnt so much in 2 1/2 hours. And weirdly I've got quite excited about the process that we are about to go through! (although still not keen on the whole injection side of things)

We are going to do the short protocol, so will start in early August. They are quite concerned about me getting over stimulated so I'm going to start on quite low doses. Has anyone else done this and been successful?

I hope everyone else's day has been positive Smile

EricaJ · 15/07/2016 09:57

Hi!

I am waiting for them to call, pfff.. I guess there is not rush right now, I have my drugs and "plan" but I just want to have someone to go to... I cannot keep on going to the IVF guy (or can I? he is so nice!).

I have downloaded a bunch of Roald Dahl books on my iTunes. I love Roald Dahl and it is cheerful stuff.

Sam So glad that your meeting went well! And I completely understand the getting excited about starting IVF! It is exciting, to feel that one is taking action! And so soon now!

I was prescribed 300 ml (can that be ml, surely not) of Gonal F a day to start with, to be assessed again on CD7.

Thisistheplace · 15/07/2016 12:49

SoSam it's so much to take in isn't it. I have mine on Monday (been through it before at previous clinic). I can't wait to get started! I did the short protocol last time. Do you have pcos? Is that why they're worried about overstim? I started on 225 and then they upped it to 300. This time I'm starting on 300 (on long protocol) I don't have pscos, just a diminished reserve and low antral follicle count :(

Erica I would see him as the fertility man, not just the IVF man. They're business is to get you and keep you pregnant. I don't think a ob/gyn would have as much experience as a FS, but he might recommend you to someone whilst also supporting your plan. I really hope the support drugs help this time. Roald Dhal sounds lovely.

So got our implications on Monday. Then husband's sperm retrieval on 25. This means another 9 day stretch at mil. Thankfully husband will be there the whole time and he doesn't tolerate any of her nonsense.

Question: what are people's thoughts on flying after embryo transfer? How long to wait, or should it be avoided all together?

Thisistheplace · 15/07/2016 12:50

Their, not they're, gah!

EricaJ · 15/07/2016 12:56

Hi Place,

Good that your husband will be there during the next stay with the mil :) the family politics are way easier to navigate.

I was told I could fly the next day after the transfer, no problem. They said that there is no danger on going on the same even but I would probably feel tired and it is important to get into "looking after yourself" mood...

blue2014 · 15/07/2016 13:30

Place - I IVFed in Czech Republic so flew home 2 days after transfer but the day after would have been fine

Thisistheplace · 15/07/2016 14:22

blue I love that you turned IVF into a verb, lol.

Thanks for flying info. I'd just hate if I managed to get pregnant anything to go wrong, I'd feel so guilty.

EricaJ · 15/07/2016 16:38

Ok, got my new consultant sorted for next week, at the same clinic where I was doing IVF and IVF guy said he will following up and that I can contact him whenever. Awwww...

I have also contacted an acupuncturist specialised in IVF and rmc, recommended by the ladies at the rmc group.

I feel all organised!