WANTED- cycle buddies who are ttc#1 and planning a FET in April/May

[RoseBud2016]

I'm in need of some buddies!

A long story short is that I have been ttc#1 for 19 months now. I have severe PCOS and don't ov or cycle naturally.
Last year I was told that DH and I would only have a chance of conceiving through IVF, after numerous other fertility treatments failed.

In February this year we had our first ISCI IVF cycle at Reprofit in the Czech Republic (DH has 2 DDs so we are not eligible for treatment on the NHS) We got 12 eggs, 8 fertilised and 6 made it to blasts! We had one transferred and fell pregnant! But at 4+4 blood tests confirmed that the pregnancy wasn't viable and at 5 weeks we had a very early mc (I hate the phrase CP as I think it trivialises it)

The last few weeks have been such a struggle physically and mentally but we are keen to try again so are planning another trip to Reprofit to be reunited with one of our Frosties!

Scared and excited in equal measures and would love some buddies to share in this new and unknown part of the 'journey' with. X

Vixx I hope your scan goes ok! Keeping my fingers crossed you can get started properly soon!

Grumpel I'm not sure I know my TSH number- did that come with another set of bloods or did you ask for it to be tested specifically? Apart from the thyroxine, is there any other way to bring it down? I had my thyroid tested and was told by my GP that it was "normal" but they didn't give me any figures..... should I check?

Stealth Keep the faith my lovely. It's still very early days- just because Banana and I felt pulling and cramping early on doesn't mean that's the experience of everyone who gets a BFP! And my experience probably isn't a good one to compare yourself to seeing as I mc'ed at 5 weeks. But I also know that no amount of people saying "don't worry" "don't over think it" helps. Ultimately it is a really f@cking stressful time and in all honesty I'm still reeling from it all, so you are bound to feel overwhelmed and negative at times. x

AFM- CD 18... EWCM has gone. I either ov'ed or geared up and nothing else happened (the story of my life!!!)
I'm planning to test on CD26-28 and then crack on with inducing a bleed so I can get this show on the road too.

Hi All, I am 5dp5dt (first FET, MFI, 1st fresh ICSI = BFN, 2nd fresh ICSI - didn't make it to transfer as too ill) and am so close to POASing it's ridiculous. I know I shouldn't. I KNOW it's pointless...but I want to know! OTD is Monday 25th which is 11dp5dt so equiv 16dpo and the embryologist tried telling me there was no point testing earlier than that

Hope you are all gearing up nicely - grumpel I have an underactive thyroid too, but no one has ever really taken much notice of that - it's well controlled (TSH under 2) so we will just need to address ASAP if I EVER get a BFP. Must be very frustrating for you to be out of control with it. Not to mention the physiological effects!

rose it's worth checking on your thyroid as for "normal" purposes under 4 is fine, but for fertility it should ideally be under 2. They should have it on file or you can have the test again.

Thank you for your kind words. I've been blown away how stressful this bit has been. Have settled down today a little bit and made my peace with the outcome either way. (Of course, shortly thereafter I started getting cramps and feeling sick so I'm not quite as zen as I was at lunchtime!)

And am keeping everything crossed for you for the ironidiff of the year! Come on!

mrschris welcome to our little safe space. Did you hold out testing today then? Well done you! 16dpo is ridiculous, definitely test before then!

Echoing on the thyroid. Mine was within normal range but slightly elevated for fertility (2.7). Dr said wouldn't have been the root cause of the miscarriage but we're going to start me on low dose thyroxine to get my TSH into optimal range (

Am in shock. 5dp5dt and I just cracked and tested I know, I know - woke up feeling incredibly rough again and hfound myself in the loo with the Gu pot for the first week of the day and thought I'd try "for practice".

But it appears to be, erm, a BFP. On both FRER and clearblue. Am obviously v cautious as it's early and it could be a chemical (particularly thinking of you rose 💕) but am starting to think maybe I might have a chance after all!

Thanks both I will definitely double check my numbers with the GP surgery today.

Stealth This is a great result so early on! Let's see a pic!!! nosy Tentative congratulations! What's the plan now? Leave it a few days and test again? Or test each day?x

Oh stealth that is fantastic news! Understand your caution of course but feel thrilled for you with your two lines!

Hopefully this pic attachment works. Faint but definitely there, no? I think I will wait a couple of days to test again unless poas obsessiveness overtakes me again. I've only got one frer left so I either need to cease & desist, or go to Boots!

Definite lines!!

Yep the lines are definitely there! If it were me I'd give the remaining FRER and other tests I have squirrelled away to my DH to confiscate for a couple of days and then test again in the hope of seeing a darkening line. But that's because I became a crazy 2-3 times a day tester last time!

Also, hello to Mrscp and fx for your 2ww- you're being extremely disciplined! I, as serial early poas-er, am impressed. Good to hear your TSH is under control, I am bloody sick to death of mine being contrary!

at banana and rose

DH is more excited than me rose, he's no help at all! I think I just need to wait now probs til the weekend (ie the original, sensible plan) but this has given me a bit of a boost. At least I know I can implant something, even if it isn't ultimately a viable pregnancy!

I've squinted at so many negative poas tests it was a shock when I realised I could unscrew my eyes and still very clearly see the line

Stealth The weekend does sound like a sensible plan- let's see how you and DH do with that!

Mrs Sorry I didn't mean to completely ignore your post. Thanks for the prompt with regards thyroid numbers, it's certainly got me thinking. How are you feeling today? X

Grumpel Hi lovely! So nice to still be joined on the bench of boredom. Want to share my once full tub of Pringles? Or are you more of a girl?

Amazing news stealth!

Thanks for the welcome all!

Wow stealth! Congrats, that's great news, fingers crossed it's a sticky one!

I still haven't POAS but wish I had now....was intending to but woke up early to put in my Progesterone and in my sleepy state peed my FMU straight down the drain dammit!

Am now wondering if it worth testing today, but probably not. We'll see.

OK- so I checked my thyroid number and it was 2.47 so not optimal! However the GP sees it as normal! How do I go about getting thyroxine to bring this down under 2? Do I have a persuasive argument for my GP or do I ask Reprofit to prescribe it (at addition cost and delay)

Help!

Mrs I would wait until you have FMU and just see it as a "dummy run". A BFN wouldn't be conclusive at this stage, but a faint BFP might make you feel a little happier? I think it depends on your own thinking.

Go back to your GP rose and say you've had a miscarriage and you would like to bring your thyroxine down under 2. They should prescribe - it's not expensive. If not then go to reprofit. I think banana had a similar level and her gp prescribed it.

Sorry bring your tsh, not your thyroxine

My GP said mine was normal too - I haven't pushed it with them yet as only got recommendation from consultant last week that we should trial me on low dose thyroxine

Consultant will prescribe it BUT, unless I've made it up, I THINK there's some official NICE guidance about fertility and pregnancy and being under 2. Although that might be for people with hypothyroidism already

The ladies I know in the UK who aren't hypothyroid but have been put on thyroxine for IVF I think were all prescribed and monitored by their clinics, because GPs usually won't have anything to do with non NHS fertility treatment.

I only got the thyroid test by crying about the miscarriage because GP insisted my clinic must have checked it and therefore didn't need checking as NHS guidance wasn't to investigate anything after one miscarriage. I think she just gave me the bloods form to get rid of me!!

NICE guidance. Says for pregnancy should be aiming for TSH under 2 - it's for women with existing hypothyroidism but may be able to try this angle to persuade them you need it for TTC?

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Yes - TSH should ideally be under 2 when TTC. GPs are crap at managing thyroid function/fertility and will tell you it is 'normal' if under 4. Ask for a copy of your results/the exact number and don't let them fob you off. I found speaking with the women's health/gynae specialist at my surgery rather than normal GP more helpful.

Well I did POAS...with my third wee of the day. Unsurprisingly its a BFN. Cue floods of tears, DH telling me I am silly, it's too early etc. And then blaming himself for putting me through all this (it's MFI and he is far more on board with IVF than me...I probably would have gone straight to adoption if I was the only one who mattered)

Will test again tomorrow with FMU, but just feel certain this cycle is not going to work. I am feeling so wretched and down, am working from home but getting nothing done. Am sick sick sick of going through this, being on all these drugs that make me feel rubbish, horrible procedures and hospital stays for something that I feel just isn't going to work for us .

Someone please hand me a grip.

Oh no mrschris. You poor thing. 3rd wee of the day probs not the best idea esp as it is so early. The whole thing is absolutely rubbish and I don't really have any sage advice other than to take care of yourself. I would definitely test again at fmu tomorrow xxxx

Congratulations stealth! ! Blimey that went quick from transfer to bypass

Welcome Chris.I echo stealth. Test tomorrow!

Scan went well and I will be started progynova to thicken womb. If that goes well then transfer will be first week of may!