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The mind numbing boredom of infertility II

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PotatoesPastaAndBread · 28/02/2016 10:29

This is a thread for peole who really want to get pregnant but can't, who have tried pretty much everything, and are really fucked off about it.

Have you ever nearly punched someone for advising you to "relax", "go on holiday" or "just get drunk - that's what we did"? Well then this is the thread for you.

You won't find much sentimentality here and there's no baby dust, but there is empathy, a lot of swearing and a surpirsing amount of glittery dog shit.

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Grumpelstiltskin · 17/03/2016 10:18

Oh Bip that's just all kinds of fucking awful. It's the headfuckery of it all that's so cruel. No words for you, other than to try to have the best holiday you can, I guess. Thinking of you.

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PumpingIron · 17/03/2016 11:17

Rubbish news Bip, so sorry :(

tigerdog · 17/03/2016 11:34

Delurking here too, to say that I'm so sorry bip. It's so bloody unfair. Sad

loopylou1984 · 17/03/2016 17:07

Bip I'm so sorry. It really isn't fair :(
If there's any silver lining then it's at least you didn't cancel your holiday then found this out. I hope you can go and have a lovely time despite this horrible disappointment.

My otd is the 23rd, but I think I might test Saturday (19th) at 9dp5dt. I don't feel any different to normal, so can't see it being anything but bfn. Xx

Vixxfacee · 17/03/2016 17:30

So sorry bip. There has been so much bad news on the infertility thread the last few weeks.
Thinking of you.

Sammy don't count yourself out before you have even tested. Fingers crossed for you.

Pebbles086 · 17/03/2016 19:53

bip fucking awful news I am so sorry for you and your DH. I know it's an awful way to start a holiday but I hope you can have a lovely time. You derserve a break.
sammy don't be so sure it's bfn. How many woman don't realise they are pregnant until a few months in? I know you must be symptom spotting but maybe they just haven't started yet xx

Feel crap posting about myself after bips news but I got my funding letter today. I am so lucky we're getting 2 cycles funded and maybe a 3rd under "under special circumstances" Haven't stopped crying and reading the letter to check. It all seems so real now and I know I have a long battle a head.
I hope you all have a peaceful break from work ladies.

kiwiblue · 17/03/2016 20:38

So so sorry bip - hope you and DH can have a bit of a break on holiday. Thinking of you.

sammy best of luck.

That's great news pebbles!!

Lauraqc · 17/03/2016 23:15

So sorry to hear that Bip :( hope you and Mr Bip can look after each other on holiday.

Great news Pebbles always a help!

I'm madly packing ready for a 4am wake up and flight at 7.30am. Czech Rep here we come! EC will be at 8.30am on Tuesday - slightly later than anticipated but I'm still baking my eggs and getting them nice and big apparently! May get to post whilst I'm there but if I can't I'll see you all on the other side! Shock

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icy121 · 18/03/2016 07:46

Bip I'm so sorry to hear that. Just unbelievably shit. I hope it doesn't ruin your holiday - is it too much to ask to just have an easy fucking life? I'm so sorry you've got more shit.

Went to a neighbours drinks do. Told Mrs next door that IVF is coming up & gave her a quick synopsis of efforts to date. She told me she used to see an "amazing" consultant, she's got pcos too and years ago he put her on metformin because of the insulin resistance and warned her it could make her more fertile then when she started trying it happened really quickly & she had natural twins!! Oh well bully for fucking you. Then she said at least I 'have' my OH kids. Christ what is wrong with people.

icy121 · 18/03/2016 07:48

Laura you'll hopefully be in the air now! Best of luck!

PotatoesPastaAndBread · 18/03/2016 08:00

Oh bip I'm so sorry to hear that. I don't know what to say. Hugs to you and your DH. I hope you get to go away, be together and do whatever you can do to feel better.

Laura you'll be in the air by now! Best of luck, keep us posted on your adventures in CZ Wink

pebbles that's fantastic - don't feel bad about sharing your good news. God knows we need something to keep us going!

Harold welcome back to the world. TBH 6 days is pretty good. I'm still eating shit a month on. DH pointed out I'd said I'd get healthy after our holiday. I said that when he's taken drugs for three months, had a sedation, conceived a baby, lost a baby, had a GA and a baby sucked out, then bled from his most delicate parts for three weeks, then he can lecture me on eating salad. In the mean time he can pass the cake. Which he did.

However the good news is (well, for me anyway!) I feel better. Bleeding and pain has stopped, bloating gone, feel stronger. Not fit as have been sedentary for months. But I realise how not right I was because I now feel right. Even had sex for the first time in months. So - clearly time to think about the next round of drugs, stabbing and hope raising.

icy I love your collection of random dreams! Amazing.

Sammy thinking of you, hang in there.

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PotatoesPastaAndBread · 18/03/2016 08:01

Just seen your update icy
People really don't know when to shut up sometimes. Why say shit like that? Just say nothing!!!

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Pebbles086 · 18/03/2016 09:56

Eekk laura you're on your way! Hope the eggs keep growing for Tuesday. Enjoy being out the country for a bit and wishing you good luck for EC.
icy I hope your ever so luck neighbour doesn't become one of your weird dreams! Sounds like she's passed over to the other side from being a desperate infertile to a smug mother. Angry
potatoes hope the sex made you feel even better and cake too!! DH must have felt rather silly after listing all your valid points for eating cake. Sounds like your in a good place physically and mentally to move forward with things.

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PotatoesPastaAndBread · 18/03/2016 15:19

Seriously. Aren't people bored of watching other people have babies?

Now if they covered "none born in five years" (ie us) the stories would be SO MUCH more dramatic and interesting.

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Grumpelstiltskin · 18/03/2016 15:47

Actual Friday LOL there, potatoes. **
Agree, other people's babies are something I'm also mind numbingly bored of.

Icy I hear ya. I have this one: a pregnant workmate hugged another one who was off on mat leave yesterday (yes, there are fucking hundreds of them here) and actually said 'aww our tummies are kissing'. Was v impressed with my restraint in not whacking her round her smug twee head with my desk phone. I almost lost an eyeball from the vigour of my eye roll though.
Bearing in mind too I'm back at work after MMC and ERPC carrying on stoically as normal cos you do, and preggo no1 left at lunchtime today weakly waving an hand as apparently sitting at her desk 5mo pregnant is all too difficult. So I'll just finish your work too, yeah? Angry

Glad you're feeling better potatoes. I am also looking forward to first post-ERPC shag on hol next week. there's something so depressing about that in a way... Confused

Yay Laura, best of luck in Czech!

Also thinking of you this weekend sammy. Everything crossed.

to everyone else. Happy barren weekend.Wine

Grumpelstiltskin · 18/03/2016 15:50

I'm going to stop trying to bold things...

PumpingIron · 18/03/2016 15:59

Potatoes I am speaking to a friend who is a documentary film maker about exactly this. People need to know that 1) fertility problems are not trivial 2) IVF is a lottery, not a solution 3) women require a proper protocol of investigations for fertility (and in fact all gynae) issues, without having to beg and plead and harass 5 different doctors.

icy121 · 18/03/2016 18:02

Oh FUCK! OFF! Grumple what the actual fuck!!! The fuck?! My brain has just exploded a little bit. Are you shitting me. Insufferable cunts. Get a new job. Come retrain as a surveyor. They're all men and it's great. Well, it's not, there are a million shitty everyday sexism bits to deal with but I'd put up with that for a decade if it meant avoiding ONE "bumps kissing" twee fucking vomit inducing bullshit moment. Fuck that!

pumping when I emailed that journalist about infertility (in the face of a "new baby" column replacing a barren column in a weekly email) she told me to write articles for The Pool (online modern wimmins blog). I keep thinking about it as I can picture a series of pieces but if I'm honest I don't know if I can be arsed with making such an effort to wallow so to speak. They definitely need to be written but at the moment I just don't have the energy to be thoughtful and concise... Rambling on here from my phone blasting the free wifi on TFL is one thing, but being considers is harder. Although I think the pieces definitely need to be from the perspective of someone who is midway through the process or for who it didn't work at all. The "it took me 12 years and 35 rounds of IVF but I got my miracle and it was worth every penny" gives the impression that there is ALWAYS a happy ending. Yet again I'm reminded of that women's hour piece... Where they interviewed the man. Thw couple had IVF and it broke their relationship the man left his wife got a new wife and she was pregnant straight away and now he has 2 kids and reckons e definitely deserves them. WHAT AVOUT THE EX?!!! Every time I think about that story I feel physically sick, get emotional and feel literally gutted for the exwife. How fucking DARE he go on the fucking radio and be happy and proud. How fucking DARE he! There was NOT AN OUNCE of sympathy. The scenario leaves me absolutely reeling.

Day 31, no idea what dpo, cycles last between 29-36 days so yay for another week nearly of deep down feverently hoping for a final ironidiff reprieve - HAHAHAHA YEAH RIGHT!

Grumpelstiltskin · 18/03/2016 18:26

Oh god icy I fear I've not really imbued you with a lovely Friday calm feeling there . Grin
Do heartily agree this infertility bollocks should be written about more. The Pool is a good shout actually. But who has decent, considered headspace amongst all the everyday and infertility stresses, indeed. Maybe we should all crowdsource it. Or just patch together random sweary, bitter, realistic samplers from these threads!

bananafish81 · 18/03/2016 20:20

Hi ladies

Thanks for your lovely messages and glittery dog shit. You all ROCK

The catalogue of fuck ups on Monday was absolutely epic. If being told your baby has died isn't enough to make it a bad start to the week.

Just to explain the setup, I am seeing a private gynae / fertility doc who has done both my IVF cycles and who also did the ERPC for me. For the IVF he works with a fertility clinic, so EC and ET are there, and it's their embryology lab, but I have all my scans with him at his consulting rooms. For the HFEA purposes my cycle counts towards their figures, but they don't deal with me directly - I'm his patient, not theirs.

In a piece of spectacular timing, no sooner than I get off the phone with my lovely consultant who says he will arrange for the ERPC ASAP, than it rings. Woman from the clinic is calling to ask about the outcome of my cycle - have I taken a pregnancy test yet? For the egg collection and embryo transfer I had 2 months ago? Have I taken a test? No, I came in for IVF and I just thought I'd wait and see if a baby popped out in 9 months. Have I taken a FUCKING test?!!! Now she wasn't to know I'd just been told our baby had died, but FFS, firstly she was supposed to liaise with my Dr's office about everything pertaining to my cycle, but secondly, if we hadn't taken a test then I think the welfare of the child form should probably be rescinded as that would raise some serious questions about our competency as future parents!

Then once we got to the hospital, the comedy of errors continued.

I'm waiting in the room to be admitted and a nurse breezes in saying 'I hear you're very anxious about the procedure today? It's really very routine and absolutely nothing to worry about!'

I'm like, 'er, I'm not worried about the procedure itself, I'm just not wildly happy about the fact that we found out 5 hours ago that I'd had a missed miscarriage and that I'm now here to have my dead baby surgically removed'

She shits herself - it turns out who thought I was in for an ERCP (a routine endoscopic procedure to look at the pancreas) and not an ERPC (evacuation of remaining products of conception). ANOTHER nurse comes in to do blood pressure and asks what exactly an ERPC is as she wasn't familiar with the procedure.

There are only so many times you can explain you are here to have your dead baby surgically removed from your body before you want to stab someone.

At least when it was called a D&C there was less margin for confusion

It didn't end there though.

As I'm coming round from the general anaesthetic, and I remember why I'm in hospital, and that I was pregnant this morning, but now I'm not - recovery nurse sees me crying and pats me on the shoulder and tells me ‘everything happens for a reason’

What fucking reason is that then? Cos right now, as I’m bleeding from having my dead baby scraped out of me, I don’t really give a flying fuck

Then ANOTHER nurse tells me I have an angel now.

I KNOW they mean well and don’t know what to say. But just no. Don’t say anything. It is not helpful to tell me I have an angel now. I was happier when I had a baby thank you very much.

Oh, and did I mention this was all in a PRIVATE hospital. We were like, is this incompetence included or are we paying extra?

Thankfully BUPA cover ERPCs so I wasn't paying directly for the privilege of this incompetence

My Dr said to me, that when he and his wife had a miscarriage and she went in for an ERPC, they had remarked that BUPA aren't interested in normal pregnancies - only dead babies.

The one shining light in all this catastrophic day, was that my Dr was completely and utterly lovely. He was so kind and sympathetic - he said doing ERPCs was the saddest part of his job and said he felt so personally responsible - even though obv it's no one's 'fault' . It also meant a lot that he shared something so very personal, as he wasn't just being a kindly Dr but had genuine empathy having been on the other side of the fence.

He was also absolutely horrified and completely disgusted all the fuck ups had happened. Because I was an urgent admission, there weren't any beds available on the gynae floor with his usual team, and so I was admitted to a different floor where they didn't usually get gynae patients. However he said that was absolutely no excuse and would write to the director of nursing to raise a complaint. He also said he would ring the director of the fertility clinic to give them a bollocking.

The song 'I don't like Mondays' literally could not have been more applicable this week.

Oh and the icing on the cake was when the following day a chugger shouted at DH 'cheer up mate, things can't be that bad!'

DH nearly lamped the guy.

Sorry for epic post, that was pretty cathartic to write that rant down!

Proper reply with personals that's less 'me me me' to follow

xxx

bananafish81 · 18/03/2016 21:24

Oh and I thought you ladies might appreciate this 'adult colouring book' a friend sent me this week. I'm particularly fond of 'Thunder Cunt' and 'Carpe Scrotum'

The mind numbing boredom of infertility II
The mind numbing boredom of infertility II
The mind numbing boredom of infertility II