Anyone Starting IVF? Join Me (4)

[bessie84]

The other thread reached 1000 comments, so having to start a new one.

A puff of Babydust to all

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Thank you waiting and shell. I was on highest dose of menopur 450 because of low AMH. I'm happy with what I get because it's still closer to that bfp than we've been in 2 years. So thinking all is good until I'm told other wise. I guess when its first cycle you feel unprepared for all of this and fear of the unknown, we that's how I feel anyway.
Woke up this morning and the first thing that entered my mind was collection tomorrow. Excited and apprehensive at same time.

My trigger shot was a half dose of ovitrelle 250 yesterday at 8pm. Roughly how long till its out of my system?
I'm thinking of testing till I know the trigger has gone. ET will be Saturday

Have you been given any diagnosis as to why it hasn't happened in those two years Miracle. I mean, I understand you have low AMH, but surely they wouldn't say that is stopping you from getting pregnant as long as you are ovulating one egg every month? The next few days are what I always found to be the most nerve-wrecking part of IVF - waiting to find out how many eggs collected, then waiting the next day for a phone call with your mobile glued to your hip to hear how many fertilised, then seeing which ones survive another day.

Wairing, I could be wrong but I thought hCG had a half life, meaning that 24 hours after you take it, your levels will be roughly half of 250 at 125, then 24 hours later, half of 125 at roughly 62.5 etc.

I will try and find out, I only had a half dose of the 250 pen so I'm assuming it won't be in my system long? I know I won't be able to resist testing early but don't want a false positive from the trigger so need to find out when it will have left my system
With ET (hopefully) Saturday with a day 3 embryo I'm trying to find out when possible implantation would be

I feel like I'm really setting myself up for a massive disappointment though. I am completely over excited and I can't think about anything else. I promised myself I wouldn't do this. I didn't think I'd ever get to ET and it's so close now

Thanks Shell. Yes, it's been a long old haul. We had our first consultation in the UK on 5 February 2014, two fresh and one FET with my eggs, then we went to Prague for the first time on 21 January this year. Again, I've had two fresh and one FET with donor eggs. When did you start out on this journey - I know you'd been going for quite a while before we "met" on this thread...

Miracles - it does feel good to be taking control, doesn't it? Here's hoping it works for you.

...and you, Waiting.

Shell no diagnosis, fertility nurse suspected blocked tubes but said if I had investigations to find this out the outcome would still be the same and that would be IVF. Felt a bit cheated at first not knowing what was wrong but then investigations would have just taken longer and I was lucky to be offered IVF. So here we are first cycle and about to go for collection tomorrow, don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight.

It does feel good purple to be taking control. I'm hoping it's going to work first time but I'm realistic at the same time and know the odds.

Good luck miracle

waiting I tested daily from trigger to otd on my first ivf. I think it was 4-5 days before I got a bfn after trigger. I can dig out old sticks and check if you like?

Thanks Dottie

Yes please that would be helpful lildottie I know I'm meant to wait but I know I will cave and test early so will want to make sure the result is accurate

I've started my cyclone at and am meant to also have aspirin from today too. Thing is I'm not sure why they've prescribed it ? All they said was increased blood flow but I know a couple of other people at same clinic who are only having cyclogest so I'm a bit confused

The mc and mmc I had previously were not due to a clotting issue apparently and now I'm wondering if it's a good idea or not? Does anyone have any ideas/opinions about the use of aspirin before I start it!

Cyclone-cyclogest

waiting I know your clinic have been less than helpful but I'd call and ask about the aspirin. You have a right to know why you are taking it. I'd make up some balls about forgetting what dose and you therefore need to speak to a nurse.

So my first ivf I triggered on Sunday, strong ic on the Monday. I then tested at 1dp2dt so the Friday and still a faint line. I didn't test at 2dp2dt but at 3dp2dt it was barely visible. Gone at 4dp2dt so that would be a week from trigger. We thought we saw something on ic at 8dp2dt and 9dp2dt and i didan opk at 10dp2dt which was positive. I got a positive frer on 11dp2dt and 12dp2dt.
This time I didnt test daily but I did an opk Monday at 10dp3dt which was positive so did an ic and a frer and got good lines on both. There is no doubt in my mind it's nothing to do with the trigger, but I'd definitely recommend waiting to test until equivalent of 13dpo before testing. My lines before that on ics were really difficult to read and you don't want to waste frer's too early.

I called them and asked and was told "it doesn't do any harm"

I asked again and said why exactly do I need it as afaik no clotting issues and that I've read conflicting things about it. Again the nurse said it won't do any harm..... Then she said as I'd had clexane in my last cycle that's probably why. I explained I had clexane and cetrotide for a few days after ec as my e2 levels were high, I'd had lots of follicles and they wanted to make sure my system was 'shut down' and that I didn't have any other problems

I'm so so confused now. Everything I read is either positive or negative about it. Some things say it helps implantation, others that it hinders it. I'm meant to start today and I don't know what to do

Jesus waiting that is truly shit. Ok this is what I know. Aspirin is prescribed when, as you say, blood tests show clotting issues which could explain previous mc. I was tested for this and aspirin was something I'd read about preventing mc but my consultant told me if my bloods were clear not to take it as it can cause miscarriage. Ivenot read of it aiding implantation. I'll have a Google for you and see if I can find anything helpful.

look at page 10 onwards on mobile for summary results, basically found no positive impact on outcomes but not conclusive as summarises several small studies

another saying results inconclusive
less reputable/scientific but still points to the blood/gene issue

I have not found anything saying it causes mc if you don't have APS nor have I found anything to say it helps, to prevent mc or aid implantation.

I'm not sure what I'd do in your situation but I remember asking my consultant about it and she was clear it wasn't good if no APS. Sorry I can't be more help

I feel a bit panicky now as I took one but now wonder if that was a mistake? If I don't take any more will that be ok?

I've never had any mention of clotting problems so no idea why they are suggesting it and they don't seem to want to say why either and tbh I'm getting very pissed off at my poor treatment on this cycle compared to my last

I think I shouldn't take it. But now I've taken one today and I just want to cry

Phoned again.nurse was lovely and said aspirin will not cause any harm at all but that she will get a doctor to call me.
I feel stupid but initially I just thought 'improved blood flow and aiding implantation' was a good enough reason until I started reading other things saying it wasn't yet when I called they wouldn't tell me why they think I need aspirin

Deep breath. One aspirin is not going to make any difference. If you feel better not taking it then don't, but it needs to be a decision you are comfortable with. Did you feel confident in your clinic last cycle, or did you feel like they were just running through the conveyor belt. Not sure how to explain what I mean but at my clinic every time I was told to take extra meds or anything I was given an explanation and I could always phone and ask. And when I saw consultant for follow up after the cycle failed I felt she really knew her stuff, was clued up on the latest research and was happy to discuss my thoughts/research. even where she disagreed she gave comprehensive reasons why.
If you don't feel confident in the clinic based on your total experience (so if you felt they were just following a routine and getting you out quick to see next person)/then I think you have to do what you feel is best from your own research and be at peace with that so you don't blame yourself if it doesn't work out

Most importantly though, stressing yourself out and getting upset is not going to do you any favours.

My only last ditch suggestion is if you have a friendly gp can you get them to call and discuss it for you?

Oh, and make a formal written complaint straight after et.

waiting I really feel for you right now. I can't stop googling for you. I just found a flip side to do with thin edometrial lining suggesting pg rates improved by aspirin due to increased lining.
I found this after reading this

Oh I'm glad they've been reasonable now. Hope the Dr can reassure you.

My lining has always been fine, was 13.7 mm and triple lined on Monday so it can't be due to that. I do have PCOS and endo though ....but they didn't say it's because of that. All they said was it helps blood flow and implantation. I asked does everyone have it then and they said no. I just don't know what to do. The receptionist said no Dr was available to call me till tomorrow aft but the lovely nurse said she would try as I ended up crying on the phone

My last cycle they were great, if I called they were wonderful, I had Appt every other day and felt very looked after. This cycle omg the difference is actually upsetting

I should have researched this before. Didn't think I'd get to this point though and had been fixating on thyroid issues

Dr called. She said it was just a recommendation..... Then said 'well you do have PCOS but it's ok to stop it???

I asked what was the reason it was prescribed she said again just a recommendation then said about the progynova I'd had , I didn't have it though as cycle is natural not medicated????
She said its up to me and as long as TSH level ok it's probably better to leave the aspirin???

I'm completely confused now. What do I do? The stress has done me no good today. I took an aspirin too so have probably ruined this cycle. I'm torn between I've started and they said its good for implantation and because I have PCOS and that I've read if there are no clotting issues etc then it's probably not a good idea

Have you spoken to dh? What does he think you should do?

All I can find re aspirin and pcos is that it increases blood flow to follicles but you aren't doing ec!

Dh thinks I should take it and trust what the doctor said initially but I'm not sure

That's what I read about follicles! During mild IVF nobody mentioned aspirin at all but they've said it helps blood flow and implantation. I do have thyroid problems which they said could affect implantation but me level is ok now so it's not due to that

It was when she said actually I probably didn't need it but it's up to me. I've read more positive than negative stuff but still the negative sticks in my mind

Not sure if it's relevant but AF is always very heavy/clotty so wondering if potentially aspirin could be helpful but i don't have any diagnosed issues

Iam in a complete muddle