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Anyone Starting IVF? Join Me (4)

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bessie84 · 19/08/2015 20:23

The other thread reached 1000 comments, so having to start a new one.

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purplemeggie · 26/09/2015 14:43

Hi Osirus and Lucie - good to see you back again and good luck for your cycles.

Good luck Banana - it does seem to be the case that people with a few similar-sized follicles do better, so here's hoping that they're excellent quality.

How are you feeling, Lil?

Icsi - just to follow up on the progesterone discussion, I checked my stockpile of cyclogest and it was 2 x 400mg per day. I don't know if utrogestan is more easily absorbed, but I was on 2 x 200mg for my previous 2 cycles and increased to 3 x 200mg at ET this time due to my rubbish lining, but I get fewer side-effects, but it completely holds off my bleed, so I trust it more.

lildottie · 26/09/2015 15:06

Hi purple. Feeling strangely normal, like I haven't just done an ivf cycle! Struggling to decide where you draw the line for "taking it easy" !

purplemeggie · 26/09/2015 19:01

I know what you mean, Lil - I'm feeling very laid-back about this cycle....but I think in my case it's because I don't expect it to work, because of my rubbish lining....hope you're feeling more optimistic than that!

It's OTD on MOnday....I've not felt the need to test again since my over-enthusiastic moment a few days ago and I haven't booked a blood test this time...feel so sure it hasn't worked I don't think it's worth spending the money - I'll just POAS.

Waitingimpatient · 26/09/2015 21:06

Hello everyone, I've been away for a bit as haven't been too well. Been reading and catching up !

purple good luck for otd on Monday !

icsi I've been prescribed cyclogest x2 a day for when (if) I get far enough this cycle

I had my TSH bloods yesterday and it was 1.7 so perfect for going ahead! Had my day 8 scan too and they think there may be a lead follicle on left side. Been advised to start opk today and have a scan on Monday, I'm hoping this is our month as I so desperately want to get to et !!!

Shellster52 · 27/09/2015 02:07

It's been such a long time coming Waiting - I hope it works after such a build up!

Enjoy the 'normal' while it lasts lil! Tne anxiousness seems to kick in and time moves slower every day as the end of the 2ww draws nearer.

I truly hope you are one of those stories purple where you totally expect it has failed and get the shock of your life on Monday. But I can understand where you are coming from when you know your lining strangely 'disappeared' If you were to go through an FET, does that mean you would near to take antibiotics again in preparation?

Shellster52 · 27/09/2015 02:07

purple I meant need to take - not near to take!

lildottie · 27/09/2015 09:32

waiting glad to hear you've had some good news at last

purplemeggie · 27/09/2015 11:15

Thanks everyone. I took the decision to test again today, because DH is doing a night-shift tonight, so we thought we'd prefer to test when we're both here and both had a good night's sleep. It was -ve. And I'm 13dpd5t, so barring an absolute miracle, one more day isn't going to change anything. I'm sad, obviously, but not nearly as gutted as in previous cycles and I think that's because I never expected this to work with my crappy lining.

So. FET cycle as soon as we can and the option of another one after that. And that's definitely me done. I'm ready to call it a day and know that we threw everything we could at this.

Shell, no, we won't have to repeat the antibiotics. That should have killed off anything, so it was a once-and-for-all thing.

I'm going back to work full time next week. I've been part time ever since I had ds, and I never thought I'd work full time again - certainly not while he was at home, as I've really treasured our afternoons together. But there's a big project on at work and I have a specialism that nobody else has, so I'm the only one who can do it really. And the money will be useful, given how much we have wasted on thrown at the IVF. DS, as it happens, is bursting with excitement at the thought of after school club every day, because it means he has more playtime with his friends. That feels a bit like salt in the wound just at the moment, because it underlines the fact that we haven't been able to provide him with a playmate at home.

Right. Off to play rugby in the sunshine with DH and DS, before I drown in self-pity.

lucieloos · 27/09/2015 11:21

Really sorry to hear that purple. Have you tried anything like prednisone, intralipids and clexane for your fets? Penny at serum told me she would expect my nk cells to be high due to the hidden infection so I'm going to use these when I come to do my transfers. Big hugs to you and I hope you have a nice day with dh and ds.

purplemeggie · 27/09/2015 12:38

Thanks, Lucie. I've used prednisone on my last three cycles as a precaution. I had the test for NK cells and it came back clear, so my clinic wouldn't let me try intralipids because they said they were only indicated for high NK cells. I might push a bit harder next time...

Trixielilac11 · 27/09/2015 13:56

So sorry to hear this cycle didn't work Purple Flowers do you think you will be able to get any answers from your clinic re your lining? Good to hear that you are geared up for a FET soon.

Icsi and anyone else concerned about progesterone, I had a blood test at my clinic on Friday, was fully expecting it to come back absolutely fine (never have early spotting and levels were fine when checked at GP) but apparently my levels aren't as high as they would like to see (50 rather than 100) so I am now on injections as well as pessaries. I'm on prednisone and clexane as well so with the pregnova and vitamins I am a rattling pin cushion- will all be worth it if it helps though.
Transfer is tomorrow pm, feel like lots of things are different to my fresh cycle and different is good!

Good luck to everyone whether you are stimming/getting ready for EC/ET or in the dreaded 2ww!

Lynn5 · 27/09/2015 19:12

Hi all, been trying to stay away from Google and reading anything ivf related while on 2ww so I don't drive myself mad. Due to test in 5 days and I'm dreading it as just now I'm blissfully unaware of the outcome. Question I wanted to ask was past few days I've had achy crampy feeling in top of my legs I normally get before AF Angry no sign of bleeding yet and not much other sypmtons. So is the achy feeling normal?

lildottie · 27/09/2015 23:26

Trixie my mantra has also been "different is good" this cycle. Gl for transfer.

Lyn noone can tell you if its a good or bad sign. It could be either. Before my bfp last time I had terrible cramping right from ec and was convinced it couldn't possibly have worked but I got my bfp and the cramps actually eased shortly before otd (also making me think that was a bad sign). We drive ourselves mad analysing every symptom for a sign, sometimes even questioning if lack of a symptom is a good thing. Truth is we can't know until we take that test. And with ivf the normal rules don't apply. Don't forget you're on high amounts of progesterone, and progesterone is responsible for both AF and pg symptoms. Chances are therefore your AF symptoms will also be your pg symptoms so you can't say you're in or out from your achy legs. Flowers

Lynn5 · 28/09/2015 13:48

Thanks lil was so positive and feeling really good about it and now I'm going back and forth between it'll work and it won't!!! Ahhhhhhhhhh 4 more days to go!!!

Waitingimpatient · 28/09/2015 20:38

Had my scan today. Day 11 and no dominant follicle, biggest is 9mm and lining 6.7mm but they said they are not sure....

I have long and irregular cycles though anything between30-40 days although usually 33-35. Using opk but tbh not convinced they will be accurate due to pcos and clinic are talking about 'helping things along' with hcg trigger. But how big does a follicle need to be for that???

Blackandwhitecat3 · 28/09/2015 20:57

Hello everyone . Just dropping in to catch up on the news.

lil and osiris congrats on your PUPO, I will have my fingers crossed for you. Purple sorry that this cycle doesn't work but it sounds like you have a plan and also hopefully the work will take your mind off things.

Shellster how are you doing?

I'm 25 weeks and have a proper bump now. I have to keep pinching myself that this has actually happened and the IVF worked and I'm actually going to have a baby! I've been back at work for a few weeks now and it's been a bit of a shock to the system, especially as I am really busy in my new role. I've been able to feel the baby moving for a couple of weeks, which is just so exciting.

Icsi so sorry to hear about all the stress, and very glad that you've kept your funding. I think sometimes these IVF nurses forget what we're going through!

Good luck everyone with your cycles. Hoping the embryo fairy remembers to make her rounds xx

Blackandwhitecat3 · 28/09/2015 20:57

Didn't

Waitingimpatient · 28/09/2015 21:57

Wow blackandwhite you must be so excited !

I'm at that stage where I'm expecting something to put a stop to my cycle (again) I think it's my mind trying to protect myself as every other month I've got excited and never got to ET so feeling very negative and resigned to the fact something will go wrong Sad

purplemeggie · 28/09/2015 23:41

Aw, Cat - lovely to hear the kitten is bumpy Smile.

Hello Waiting - hope you have better luck this time.

Good luck, Lynn - there is nothing quite like the 2ww to mess with your head, is there? Hoping for a happy outcome for you.

I'm going a bit loopy tonight. Still feeling sick from the hormones, even though I stopped taking the meds yesterday. Didn't mind in the least when it might have been morning sickness, but I mind a lot today. DH is working night shifts this week. It's my last week before going back to work full time and my parents and my sister want to spend time with me. I just want to sulk at home. My parents don't know about the IVF, so I really don't have a decent excuse. I've been rootling baby stuff and maternity stuff out of the loft for my niece who is due in November - she has been very sweet and told me not to do this if it was going to be painful. I thought it would be fine - totally separate, the excitement about her little one coming and the sadness that we can't seem to do this thing - but ds' teeny tiny clothes made me feel very Sad. Things I had completely forgotten, like grobags and little tiny slippers....oh god this is hard.

Waitingimpatient · 29/09/2015 09:23

Oh purple Sad I know the feeling. My dsis is planning a family and as we are having our loft done she asked for my old bits and bobs, had the Moses basket rocking stand, clothes etc and car seat. Dh said not to worry, if IVF works he said we should see it as an opportunity to go shopping for new (not sure how though seeing as IVF has used up all our savings and made a massive dent in credit cards)

I'm at the point where I'm telling myself it probably won't work, I woke up in the night in a panic thinking to just give up now and save myself the heartache and disappointment. Felt better first thing this morning though but it's still hard to be positive. I hope you feel better as the meds leave your system x

bananafish81 · 29/09/2015 15:57

Purple massive hugs, hope you’re being kind to yourself. It doesn’t matter how we tell ourselves we weren’t expecting anything, it doesn’t make it any easier. Hope you’re being kind to yourself and DH is looking out for you.

Waitingimpatient keeping everything crossed for you - you’ve waited such a long time, I really really hope this is your month

Good luck lil and osiris, lynn hang in there!

AFM, today’s scan showed the four follies have progressed nicely, and there’s two smaller ones on the left (11mm) that the consultant hopes might catch up enough between now and retrieval to have something to work with. There’s another tiddler (7mm) on the right, but he doesn’t think that’s likely to be a go-er.

Lining is looking good at 7mm, so he’s happy everything is on track. He reckons Monday for EC, seeing him on Friday for a final scan. He’s dropped the Gonal-F down again as he doesn’t want to overcook the larger follicles.

So, he’s very pleased - obv 4-6 wouldn’t be terrific for someone else my age, but given my bloods it’s a lot better than expected

Come on little ‘uns!

lildottie · 29/09/2015 17:02

purple waiting its hard enough watching others have babies. Let alone watching them picking off your stuff! Hugs.

banana that's really good news. Got everything crossed for you even my legs for a change!

Don't think I mentioned on here yesterday our remaining embryos didn't make it to freezing. Feels like right kick in the teeth when there's never been any issue with me, I had great amh levels and dhs fellas are back to normal ranges. Makes me wonder if we've been conceiving all these years but its not survived long enough to implant. Can't let myself think lime that though. Been looking at my picture of my lil embies that are safe inside me and just praying for a good outcome. Anyone else get pics of them?

lildottie · 29/09/2015 17:02

Not of mine, of your own of course ;)

Floweroct2 · 29/09/2015 20:05

That's good news banana hope your scan goes well on Friday

lil sorry you didn't get any to freeze but hopefully you won't need them anything. I don't think it necessarily means anything though so I'd try not to think about it too much. Every egg is different, every situation is different. I didn't get a photo of the embies but we could have done if we wanted, after my miscarriages we just don't really want more pictures that I then need to decide what to do with but that's just me being pessimistic!

lildottie · 29/09/2015 20:32

My pics from last ivf are framed in a box with my journal i kept and my two frer's flower I couldn't let any of it go. Don't think I ever will, but I totally get what you mean. Easier not to have it than decide what to do with it. I struggled to throw away the digi I did even after the battery died. And I even struggled to throw away the frer I did that made me realise things weren't right because the line was so feint.