Infertility Rant!

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Thread two moving on from infertility meltdown!
Feel free to join us to rant about any part of the infertility journey

Hi Alpha, sorry I missed your first post, hope you're feeling better now. Have a very busy weekend so will catch up next week. Xx

hi ladies, how we all doing? so im on my post transfer meds now and OMG not liking the gesterone injection ... bloody hurts lol

i thought this part of the process would be easy but little i know... ive got 2 weeks of thinking (and only thinking) has it worked or not? the thought of not working scars me!

ps. sorry if i forgot to reply back to anyone - few days away from laptop and so much to catch up on!

theres loads of do's and donts to do after the transfer... but any recommendations ladies? should i be on complete bed rest or just take it easy? x

oh and before i forget - hi alpha, its always difficult to decide whether to go private or not as the money involved is ridiculous! ive never brought meds of the internet so it might be cheap but will it be safe? sometimes its worth paying the money for knowing your taking the right stuff ... but thats my personal opinion... and im sure everyone thinks differently xxx sorry ant give you any more advice x

I've bought medicine over the internet too in the past alpha. Desperate times call for desperate measures! I do know that Clomid binds to your estrogen receptors and stops estrogen from being able to bind there and do it's job. So your uterine lining continues to thin each cycle and your fertilise cervical mucous becomes less. Here my hospital offered me three rounds of Clomid for this reason. And because I already have a light period, I really noticed it's effect. By the third cycle, my period was one drop of blood! So definitely good to have a break from it after 6 months. Have you considered natural supplements that could help you ovulate while you wait for the sloooow NHS to start you on IVF - such as phytoestrogens from soy that some women with PCOS says works for them?

aussie, I've only ever done the Crinone pessaries and never the injections, but I've been told they hurt! As for my do's and don't list, I ate a slice of pineapple every day after egg collection (including the core) and 4 brazil nuts for selenium. I have a 4yo so couldn't be on bed rest, but just tried to take it easy on the day of transfer. I got my BFP (as far as I know - I have my 7 week ultrasound this weekend which I am petrified might show a non viable pregnancy) so I don't know if this helped me or just co-incidence but certainly didn't hurt.

That's interesting Shellster, it didn't even occur to me that maybe there was a medical reason why you can only have a maximum of 6 months. I'll hopefully be seeing my consultant next week so I can discuss whether going private for Clomid would be an option.

Got everything crossed for you Aussie. I remember my friend who had IVF saying she used to have a handful of brazil nuts every day (and she conceived twins) so I second that.

Also I'd never heard of soy isoflavones before, just done some reading and I'll definitely give it a go if I can't have any more clomid. Does anyone here take it? If so, what dosage and which cycle days do you take it?

There used to be a soy thread on the conception boards, maybe have a look there?

Thanks, found lots of useful info!

Glad you've found useful info alpha. It's nice to feel like you're doing something pro-active about trying each month while you wait for treatment. I don't have PCOS myself and I ovulate on my own so have never taken it myself. Hope you get some useful advice from you consultant appointment.

Hi everyone, sorry I've not been around. How is everyone doing? Xx

Tired, nauseous, the usual hope you are well sammy

How is the 2ww Aussie? Nearly there, when is test date?

Hi sammy, hopefully it's a good thing that you haven't been around as your mind is occupied with things other than TTC!

How's the amaemia chops? We're you already taking a pre-natal with iron or have you added it to your routine since your test showed low iron? I'm starting to feel sick just thinking about swallowing my pills which I recall happening with DS. Still not as nauseous as when I had him yet though so I expect it to get worse.

Have my 7 week scan this Saturday. I thought my symptoms were a positive sign but just spoke to someone else who had scan at 7 weeks with no heartbeat. Kept going for repeat scans and still no heartbeat. Finally had D&C at 9 weeks. Yet she had nausea and m/sickness right up til day of D&C! So I don't feel reassured at all now by my symptoms! Think I'm going to burst into tears whatever the outcome of this scan. Either tears of sadness if no heartbeat or tears of relief.

Still chops? Rubbish!

Shell - Saturday! Eek! So exciting. Don't worry about tears, I'm sure they're used to it!

Yeah, I've been trying to keep myself distracted, with such a long wait I have to.
I think af is going to be late this cycle, no sign of a positive opk yesterday (cd13) and I usuall ov by cd15/16. A few days late will just be annoying as it will push back our dates... Unless it's a couple of weeks late in which case maybe I could ask them to start after just one cycle. Xx

I think it's in for the duration unfortunately sammy I'm getting used to feeling crap all the time though, its just part of my day! shell I'm taking iron prescribed by the GP now for the anaemia. I did buy vits with iron but they were big and swallowing them made me gag. So I've mostly stuck with the teeny weeny folic acid ones. My diet has been shocking so I get why I became anaemic! I'm trying to eat better now though and get my greens and red meats!

Everything crossed for your scan on Saturday shell I'll be checking for updates!!

I totally get that chops. My pre-natal vitamin makes me want to gag too. And even looking at food makes me want to gag, so it's hard to spend time chopping vegetables and preparing a whole meal - so I totally get eating rubbish too. But I was on the infertility road for 4 years and read way too many studies in that time. One showed that 65% of women who ate 'poorly' during their pregnancy had negative birth outcomes such as pre-eclampsia, still-birth etc, while 98% of those that ate perfect diets had babies who were categorised with 'excellent' health ay birth. Another study showed that low iron affects breast milk making ability and I had low milk supply with DS and was very upset when I had to supplement with formula. So as difficult as it is, I'm trying really hard to keep up the pre-natal and healthy eating.

Of course, I have to have a viable pregnancy first so it depends what tomorrows scan shows! I've had over 30 eggs retrieved with all my IVF cycles and each egg has had something go wrong, so you can imagine that just because I've finally had one implant, my history doesn't give me much confidence that this egg is any more viable and that I'll get a heartbeat tomorrow. Telling myself not to get my hopes up but I know I'll be devastated.

Sorry sammy, I used to be so jealous of those women on here who complained about their pregnancy. I just couldn't empathize because I could only dream of being in their position while I was having set back after set back. So I told myself I wouldn't do it because I get that you couldn't relate. But now I am one of them!!!!

Well I've also read stories or ladies with hyperemesis who lived off very little during their pregnancy and gave birth to healthy normal sized babies :-)

I've every faith sammy will soon join us :-) x

Aussie?

She'll good luck for the scan

It's ok, you're allowed to air your concerns as much as I am.

I'm struggling with this waiting tbh, and still no sign of ovulation so that means our dates will be pushed even further back. It's so unfair. Xx

Good luck with your scan tomorrow shellster And don't your dare come on here with your pregnancy problems! Lol, only kidding ;)

I am sure there must be lots of women who spend most of the time vomitting and not feeling like eating a plate of vegetables that give birth to healthy babies. Didn't mean to stress you out. I guess when I've gone through 11 IVF attempts to get this far, I'm a bit more precautious than the average pregnant woman and am anxious to do everything to make it work so I'll TRY to follow the advice of that study.

I have been where you are and totally get the struggle of waiting, having had to wait between each of my 11 IVF attempts. Will you start stimming with your next cycle or do you have to down reg first? You are getting 5 attempts at IVF, with 2 fresh and 2 frozen NHS rounds and your lovely family insisting on paying for a private go while you wait. And you have an AMH of 19! So I am sure it will happen for you in all of the chances you have ahead of you and it's just a matter of time.

How are you Laura - any word on when your urologist appointment will be?

Shell - have you had your scan?

There won't be any stimulation this time round thank god, just the suprecur for around 8 days and tablets to build lining.
Thing is I'm on cd16 with no sign of a pos opk yet, when usually I get a positive on cd13/14 and ov by cd16. It's very frustrating not knowing, my ov dates have been the only reliable part of ttc until now!
Af lasted an extra 4 days so am hoping ov will be no more than 4 days delayed.... Xx

hi ladies, sorry havent been on here. my internet was down for a few days and ive been trying to keep myself distracted. my test date is on wednesday 12 aug. i did a preg test at home the other day ... i know i shouldnt had but i was curious... it showed negative but to be honest i wasnt sure what to expect (it was like 5 days after ET) lol

these after transfer medications kill... especially the gesterone is the worst! my bum is all brusied and actually sooo is my belly now and not to mention how much weight i have gained lol

shell - good luck for your scan. hope it goes all well

sammy - the wait is the worst part of the whole process. and yet theres nothing you can do ... try and find a good hobby/distraction? my hobby in the past has always been running/gym and thats one thing i couldnt do grrr

how are you chops?

sorry if ive missed anyone out xxx

Hope you're OK shell

I'm OK thanks Aussie knackered and hot! Been trapsing around London after a MN meet up!!!

hope ya ok shell

Bessie! How's it going? We were on the iui thread together. Have you started ivf yet?

hi chopsface we sign our consents this thursday / part with the thousands and start next AF - due end of august (been brought on by norethisterone, havent had one since last IUI) so 3 weeks to go - doing SP.

how are you doing? x

Good luck with it Bessie everything crossed it's successful first time, especially with parting with so much money. I'm doing well thanks. I'm 22 weeks preg tomorrow.