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Would you be my Infertility/Clomid/Follicle tracking friend please?!

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scienceteachergeek · 06/07/2015 22:28

Hi there ladies

I’m really looking for a ‘clomid friend’ or ‘infertility pal’!

I’m 30, DH is 38. I came off the pill July 2013 to regulate my cycles and ended 15yrs of antidepressants in March 2014 as I’d read that was the best plan if possible.

I’d been having regular 27/30day cycles since I came off the pill but after no positive tests, buying OPKs and the Clearblue Advanced Fertility Monitor, plus charting temps and monitoring my cervix and mucus it quickly became apparent that I wasn’t ovulating. After all the blood tests, sperm analysis, trans-vaginal scans and the HSG it showed that he was fine but I wasn’t ovulating, but there was not obvious reason why.

Fast forward to now, 2yrs since coming off the pill, I have been prescribed clomid and have taken my first 5 tablets. I’m day 12 today and have been having follicle tracking to check if the drugs have worked. My largest follicle was 16.4mm today and have to go back on Wednesday to check it again.

Do any of you know if that’s a good size? Or have any experiences of being further down the clomid path? Or are you in a similar position? I just feel like I’m going out of my mind and could really use a buddy!

Thanks for reading and hugs to you all. Interested in hearing from any of you xxx

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Vap0 · 05/02/2016 15:05

Oh science I'm so sorry you've had such a crap time of it all. I really hope you find a new position really soon.
Mr vap is a teacher and so I know the added stress you are under when the ofsted people come in.
As for the tumour, FFS! Will they be able to remove it or shrink it?
It's bloody time you got a break! You've had more than your fair of total shit. Do you think you may be in with a chance this month?

Hope things get better for you Flowers

scienceteachergeek · 05/02/2016 22:33

No idea if I'm in with a chance or not really. Had a bit of pink on my pants last week and got boob pain but could easily be nothing.

They have no idea what to do with my tumour, got 4 different consultants in different specialisms arguing about what the best course of action might be.

Good news of the day is that I got the job I went for today :)

Thanks for caring xxx

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NewLeafExpat · 06/02/2016 06:47

Hey science it's so good to have you back. We are all here for you in team spirit. Totally understand why you needed to escape for a bit and just try deal with life. I have no idea what it must be like to have a tumour and face that. I am so sorry to hear it. I hope the specialists come up with a plan of action soon for you.

Your clomid cycle 4 sounds like it is a goer. My fingers are crossed for you. I am on clomid cycle 4 too, CD32 but only 2dpo with my messed up cycles.

Huge congrats on the new job, Yayyy! Is it still in a private school with special needs? Hoping it has better benefits for you and they aren't so mean with time off. At least it's a positive change in your life you can try to focus on and let the positivity consume you rather than the not so good bits.

All we can do is try move forward. Step by step.

So for me, my wrist is still f-/;ked from snowboarding. HmmShockConfused. Not good. I am not sure whether to go have it checked out but guess what, TTC gets in the way as I want to avoid having an X-ray.

Today is my last chance to have it xrayed, because I am actually going skiing with friends again tomorrow!! Blush. I have it strapped up most of the day and when it's not strapped up I wear like a tennis sweat band which also supports it. Sexy and classy... As for sexy, sex with a wrist guard and aches and pains is not sexy but rather hilarious. Whatever gets the job done!

How are you pregnant girls doing?

And trooper flat are you back from the sun yet? Jealous. Wink

FlatWhiteToGo · 06/02/2016 15:55

Sorry for the very short post, but I didn't want to read and run.

Science - OMG that all sounds awful. I'm so sorry you're having such a shitty time. I hope they manage to sort the tumour soon. You must be sick of hospitals and medical appointments Sad. Well done with the job interview though. Are you going to take the new job?!

NewLeaf - you silly sausage! Go get it X-rayed right now missy. You need to know exactly what's going on so it can be fixed properly and you don't risk doing any further damage (or, hopefully, you get told it's nothing). If you are 2DPO then you can't have even implanted yet so I'm sure there's no risk (I say that having never done medical degree!). I hope you feel a little better soon. Have a fab time skiing!

I fly back on Monday. I've had a great time (will post when I'm back) but sadly the weather's been pants the past few days. I'm also being stalked by every mother and baby in the resort. I don't know why, but they ALL decide to sit next to me (by the pool, in the restaurant etc). I even had a lady bring her OH and newborn into the gym while she was working out. Twat. Surely a hotel gym should be a child-free sanctuary?!

bananafish81 · 07/02/2016 23:33

science oh my love I have no words. You are a complete warrior and I hope the good things you so richly deserve are in store for you around the corner. We’re all rooting for you and keeping everything crossed for you - much love and hugs, we’re all here for you Flowers

Flat hope you’ve managed to have a restful holiday despite a pair of utter prize nobjockeys. I am seriously impressed with you being in the gym on holiday!!

Newleaf yes you must get yourself checked out!! Thinking of you and hope you are having a fabulous holiday despite aches, pains and er, buggered bits

Lily yes damn well enjoy yourself with a few Wine and Chocolate

Vap so pleased your boss was understanding, and I’m so so glad you’re not going

Re NCT all my friends say you’re basically paying for an address book - friends with much bigger children still have NCT bday parties and play dates and dinners, and one friend says her NCT WhatsApp group is invaluable when you’re all on mat leave and driving yourself bonkers. Including worries in the middle of the night as guaranteed someone else is doing a feed too!

I had my second beta on Thu: hCG hadn’t quite doubled but it had gone up 70%, which Dr says is fine - apparently as long as it doubles within 48-72h it’s on track. Going in for another tomorrow (Mon) just to be sure. Then if everything is OK then hopefully a scan in the next week or so (usually 6-7 weeks). The HFEA only consider a cycle to have resulted in a clinical pregnancy if it’s detected on a scan, so desperately hoping things are heading in the right direction (obv in no way serial POAS to check the lines are getting darker….)

Vap0 · 08/02/2016 08:28

Morning all

Yet another conference call this morning in bed, can't peel myself out to sit on a chair. Good job they haven't advanced onto video conferencing yet!

science fantastic news on the job front! When do you start? After Easter? Hope the good news keeps on coming for you. It's certianly well over due. is the school another special school?

newleaf did you go for an X-ray? How is the wrist? Can't believe you're going on another skiing holiday with a potentially broken wrist, much braver than me! Hope you have a fantastic time! Every man and his dog seem to be on skiing holidays on Facebook at the minute.

flat welcome home! I hope you're arriving back to some good news on the dr's appointment front! Rubbish to hear about the rain on holiday. And WTAF about kids in the gym? Argh! Bet you can't wait to get back to get away from all these kids! Keep us informed on how you get on with your appointments.

banana everything crossed for your blood test today and scan at 6-7 weeks. How are you feeling? Any different at all?

Not much going on here.... I'm pleased to hear about your friends comments on nct banana. You can pay in instalments which I think I'll do and dp won't notice. I told him about it and he said why pay for something you get for free. He will understand later in down the line. I also bought some reusable nappies last week. Don't know if any of you ever go to aldi but they ran a baby special buy recently and I decided I wanted to do reusable nappies a while back. Dp said it was far too early to be buying stuff. Just hoping I haven't jinxed anything. Hoping to buy all the stuff we need before I stop working so it isn't a massive drain when I have no money. Symptoms are coming and going. Yesterday nothing at all, so we went for a very windy walk at the seaside and the seagulls tried to nick our sandwiches. Today I'm back to total exhaustion which I'm quite pleased about but wondering how I'll manage to get through today at work as I was panicking yesterday about the lack of symptoms. Just waiting for my 12 week scan letter to come through. Think we will book a private scan next Saturday which will be 10w exactly. Don't know if any of you use the ovia app? I used it all through ttc and there is a pregnancy one too. Check out the size of baby vaps hand!

Would you be my Infertility/Clomid/Follicle tracking friend please?!
Vap0 · 09/02/2016 08:15

So, the last couple of days symptoms seem to have disappeared. Still tired yesterday and today but that's expected after an 11 hour day at work. Hunger has disappeared, not on the loo anywhere near as often, sore boobs subsiding. I'm pretty scared this is bad news. So I've booked a scan on Friday night. It's a good deal, 2 scans for £80, really hoping I'll need the 2nd scan.

Lily35 · 09/02/2016 09:11

Oh Vap....don't panic! I'm sure it is all normal! Good luck Friday Thanks

bananafish81 · 09/02/2016 14:08

Vap know it's massively scary, but I can't tell you how many women who've had a history of pregnancy loss say the same and everything was fine. Symptoms wax and wane in everyone but completely understandable to be concerned. I feel completely the same! Hope your bubba gives you a wave on Fri xxx

FlatWhiteToGo · 09/02/2016 17:40

Hello ladies Grin

Right, I am back on UK soil with working internet! I can actually get involved again Smile.

Vap - I don't want to jinx things but I have heard many similar stories to those told by banana's friends. Best of luck on Friday. I appreciate it must feel like such a long time away Sad. How far along are you? Hopefully it is just your body adjusting as you get further along with your pregnancy.

As for NCT classes, I don't know much about them at all but it sounds as though they may be the better bet!

NewLeaf - What's happening with the wrist? I hope it's doing a little better. How miserable!

Not long until your UK appointment! Hopefully you'll have a better idea then about what to do for the best.

As for sex selection, personally I think it's a step too far. Maybe I wouldn't feel that way if I hadn't battled infertility and the desperation to have ANY healthy baby! I remember in the conception board a few months ago some idiot girl posted about how she had "2/3 boys* and wanted a girl" and "was there anything [she] could do to make sure [she] had a baby girl".

    • I can't remember if she had 2 or 3 boys. She didn't have 2/3rds of a boy though. The thread nearly irritated me as much as the "I'm heartbroken my husband won't have a 4th child and am thinking of leaving him" idiot.

Banana - What's happening with the hcG? How did the scan go? I hope it's all good news.

Lily - How was your holiday week? Did you get up to much? Hope you've managed to relax a little.

Science - How are you doing lovely? You've really had a ton of bricks thrown at you lately. You're doing so well to be keeping your head above water (even if it maybe feels like you're now!).

AFM, the holiday was lovely and relaxing. We were literally terrorised by small children and babies though! After I last posted, the next day we went and found a secluded spot on the beach where we could both be moody and just switch off and read read read. Anyway, in the morning a family of six (bizarrely all dressed in white linen clothes) came over with a professional photographer and did posed photos for an hour+. Fine. Whatever. Then that afternoon the same photographer came back with a young couple and took a load of "arty" photos of the mother breast-feeding while looking into the ocean. FFS. Jog on love. Then on the flight home we got stuck next to a screaming baby...and to top it all off, when DH put his seat slightly back at 2am when all the lights were off, this angry chav told him to put it forward immediately as her partner was "massive" and couldn't fit in the space. It turned out he wasn't massive at all, but they had some form of child (probably around 6YO) sitting on his lap the whole time rather than on his own seat! Obviously they couldn't be considerate enough and just pay for a seat with extra leg room, as all their money had to go on duty free cigarettes (that's not me being an arsehole: they genuinely had bags full of cigs, booze etc). Also, clearly both their children (the 6ish YO and another one around 7/8ish) should have been at school for the past few weeks when they were clearly abroad on holiday in the Caribbean.

Sadly IVF is now on hold for the foreseeable future. I am so angry! To cut a very long story short (being the same story about various CCG's refusing to fund me and being passed from pillar to post) it's all been put on hold indefinitely (well, until someone who has some sort of authority agrees we can actually proceed! FFS!). We couldn't have gone away at a better time, as I genuinely think I may have had a nervous breakdown given how events unfolded just before we went away.

Where we're at now, in short, is we're looking to do a round of IVF on the NHS, but as that may take months (or even a year+!!!) before they allow this, we're also looking at doing IVF privately abroad this year. Although we haven't fully researched it yet, we're mostly looking at the Czech Republic (probably Gennet). I am over the moon, as DH had previously refused to consider going abroad. Anyway, we've booked some time off in July and we're going to decide whether to have a holiday-holiday (i.e. someone hot and relaxing, probably in Europe) or whether to have an IVF-holiday (i.e. go out for a week or so and do a little casual sight-seeing, but also relaxing and then doing IVF somewhere away from our everyday stressful life). Although it will probably work out roughly the same cost-wise, I sort of resent spending £6,500 going abroad and seeing a new city and staying in a nice hotel less than spending the same amount at the "local" clinic where I'd be battling to get to appointments around work commitments (and if I take time off work, the travel is an hour and a half each way to the clinic!).

In other news, DH has agreed to "back down" and start the adoption process on our 4th anniversary (i.e. July 2017). As he'd originally said he wouldn't consider it for another 5+ years (!) that's a massive move in a positive direction.

In other MASSIVE news (although this is way down the line...like 5 years down the line) we've sort of decided to move to Australia!!! If we have children, we may reconsider this plan (for the sole reason that we want them to grow up with their grandparents & aunts & uncles relatively nearby) but if we don't, then we're pretty determined to move there for two/three years (or even permanently!). It's so nice to focus on a goal which is vaguely in our control (Flat sits back and allows you to make your amateur psychologist remarks right now...Grin).

So all in all, if you ignore the fact I'm still no closer to motherhood, I'm feeling a bit more upbeat Smile. Sorry for the massive unload - that's two weeks' worth of beach-side contemplation vomited onto this thread grin].

Vap0 · 10/02/2016 15:30

Just spotted this....

www.manchesterfertility.com

100% refund if you don't get pregnant!

bananafish81 · 10/02/2016 21:40

Flat welcome back!! So glad you were able to have some proper down time. Despite absolute fucknuts being thrown in your path

I’m so, so sorry you’ve been dicked around so much by your CCGs, as if infertility wasn’t stressful enough Sad I didn’t experience any of the NHS pencil pushers as I was 100% not eligible for NHS funding, can only imagine the frustration. Lots of women on my FF forum for low AMH-ers have gone to Gennet or Reprofit and have only amazing things to say. Serum in Greece would be another option for a holiday to the islands!

Wowowow re: your move to Australia, exciting and amazing to have a long term plan in place. Do you have an Aussie connection? Or just fancy it? Either way, fantastic

So pleased to hear you feeling more positive, and unload away, it’s fab to hear you have things lining up and mentally are feeling more positive

newleaf how’s the wrist?

Lily hope you’ve had a great week

science thinking of you lovely

Vap How are you doing hon? Love baby Vap’s hand on the Ovia app Smile I didn’t want to download anything pregnancy related for fear of having to uninstall it - I didn’t even want to call the GP to kick off antenatal stuff in case I ended up having to cancel them, which is obv ridiculous (as I am high risk, and once I’ve seen the various private consultants tomorrow, I will need to be in the system and relay directions re my medication etc). I know rationally that nothing I do or don’t do will make any difference, and DH said we have to assume I’m pregnant unless we have any reason to think otherwise. Wish I was having more symptoms tbh! Bit of pulling/crampy type feeling, boobs mildly sore but not very much, little bit of mid-afternoon queasiness but not nausea, waiting for exhaustion to kick in but at the moment it’s mainly insomnia! Oh and I’m either suddenly really unfit or I’m getting shortness of breath, which apparently can come with all the extra progesterone (hello fanjo bullets!).

Blood test on Monday went well, the hCG had leapt up which was promising. Scan is booked for 2 weeks time when I’ll be (hopefully) 7+1, so it’s another nail biting 2ww.

I’m now doing the rounds of my consultants who said to come back ASAP if I got pregnant. The neurologist and the obstetric physician both have a POV about epilepsy management, if they disagree then I’ll tell them to speak to each other and sort it out between themselves. There’s a clear pecking order for my pain management (pain doc defers to OB/GYN, who defers to obstetric physician) but neurologist suggested he didn’t recommend monitoring blood levels or increasing the dose of my epilepsy meds prophylactically and obstetric physician said he did. Obstetric dude should trump neurologist as he literally wrote the book on prescribing in pregnancy, so he really knows his stuff. Seeing them tomorrow so will see what they say. GP appointment next week, then scan the following week. Eep.

My pain is not great and I’m not able to go into work, and my wonky walking is throwing all my hypermobile joints out so my ankle is a bit f*cked - shall I check myself into the scrapyard now or later?!

Oh and re: NCT, the reason is for the people you’ll meet. The classes where they tell you to give birth under a tree with whale music, less so personally. Dara O’Briain does a great sketch in his standup about going to NCT and the hippy crap they spout, where his wife ‘the surgeon’ is having to bite her lip as they spout wildly inaccurate shite about episiotomies and c-sections. Very, very funny.

FlatWhiteToGo · 11/02/2016 16:31

The mystery of POAS-gate has been solved. It's a girl who sits two pods away from me at work and she's 4 months' gone. The next 5 months will be pretty unbearable Sad...

Vap0 · 11/02/2016 18:16

Hi

lily and science and newleaf hope you're all ok! Where are you up to?

flat for fucks sake! Can you move desk? I can't believe someone can give a shit so little to leave the stick there. I'm so cross! Make sure you eat plenty of soft cheese and pate at work in front of her. Welcome back to the uk! I remember that idiot saying she may leave her dh and wanting a girl, these people don't know they are born having 1 healthy baby. It's made me cross again just thinking about it. I'm so sorry that NHS IVF is in hold. I can't believe how badly they have cocked up. Really pleased dh has come around to the idea of IVF abroad and also adoption, that's massive. I totally understand how it will be easier being abroad rather than worrying about work etc. They are great those 2 clinics, I think you can do most admin over email and then get everything done over about 2 weeks, perhaps another trip over there before. I remember looking at how it works and whether I could handle it with work holidays. Australia is an amazing place to live, I've never been myself but we have a family friend who lives over there and she is always in the beach, even at night in shorts, always outside, such an amazing lifestyle. There are loads of Brits out there too, they all seem to live together in certain areas. Life sounds brilliant over there. I couldn't go as couldn't leave my mum and dad but totally understand people who do. The friend I'm talking about has a 2 year old too and she says it's amazing for kids. Her family are always over visiting her and she is often home. The Australians seem to have a much better work life balance. They understand people need to have lives outside of work. What an amazing thing to contemplate!! I hope you don't make it due to having a baby but if you do go I'm sure it will be amazing!!

banana great to hear about your jumping hcg! I know what you mean about the apps, my one is somehow stuck on the 1st pregnancy and when I switch it on it shows me a massive hand on that hand part of it until a minute later when it resets itself. And you also somehow get registered with loads of baby stuff with them and receive endless emails which is shit if you lose baby. Although they are good to see how big they are compared to a piece of fruit. How did your consultant appointment go today? Did they do anything to check how you were? Reference breathlessness, I've had that too, it's really strange, sometimes I can walk up 5 flights of stairs and am fine, other times just standing up and walking into another room can have me puffing. I know I'm the worst at following this advice but - try not to worry too much about the lack of symptoms, everyone is different and some prod don't even get any. Sorry you're in such pain, hope your consultants managed to come to some kind of arrangement with some kind of pain relief for you. I can't imagine how difficult it must be having chronic pain as well as the stress of all of this. Oh and on nct, when the midwife told me about the NHS courses and what was involved I was thinking I'd give them a miss, it is purely the meeting people side of things that I'm planning on going for. Hope it works and is a £200 well spent. I am not going to be too interested in listening to a load of bollocks about natural births and meditation etc. No heroes in my book!

Not much going on here, just waiting for this scan tomorrow night, it's quite late on but will update when I have my pic. I have been incredibly angry the last couple of days. My road rage has been off the chart, everyone on the road is a f*ing something. I actually shocked myself with my reactions to situations which would just normally roll off me. DP is calling me Militant Myrtle at the minute (family joke on me). I'm really hoping this anger goes away as I'm struggling to be pleasant and patient with my customers. Really need to sort myself out. Scan letter for 12 week scan came through today for 3rd March. Really pleased we have this private one booked in now as another 3 weeks is a long time to wait. Also had my flu jab today. Did mean to do it pre Xmas but kind of ran out of time and forgot, wasn't going to bother as thought nobody caught flu at this time of year so posted on mn just to check and so many people piped up saying people all have flu so thought I'd better get sorted. Also, they gave me a letter last Wednesday at the booking appointment saying I needed more folic acid and they still haven't written me out a prescription for it. It will be ready Monday at the earliest. I'm wondering what the point even is as I'll be 10+2 by the time I can actually get my prescription and due to take it until 12w, so 11 days. I'm cross there I go again that you don't hear about these things until your booking appointment by which time it's all too late. I also posted about this on mn and the reason they said to take extra was due to high bmi 30.7 (needs to be taken over 30) and not many people get it prescribed for weight issues, lots of ladies on there with far higher bmi's who haven't been told to take extra, so I'm hoping it's just a precaution and won't have affected me too badly. There is nothing online or on NHS website that says you need more with a higher bmi. Also, I'm pretty sure that the 3 or 4 lbs difference between being above or below 30 can't make such a big difference or so I'm hoping.

Lily35 · 12/02/2016 08:31

Hi all hope everyone is ok? TGIF!

Vap - good luck today! Looking forward to seeing a new scan later.

I hope the pregnancy is doing ok Banana?

I'm on cd 14 today. Got my positive OPK yesterday so keeping busy :) had bad ovulation cramps which I think is normal. I'm chilled ish - thinking what will be will be. I'm hoping that I actually have good eggs when I'm ovulating because another of my friends told me they had low egg reserve and now I'm panicking that the same is happening for me. Seems to be so many people that have low egg reserves and it's scary. Now that I've hit 35 I'm conscious of the decline.

I had a great week off though but I drank far too much and I was taking the Clomid too. Eek. I've decided to stay off the booze for lent - lets see how that one goes!!

FlatWhiteToGo · 12/02/2016 10:04

Hi Ladies

Banana - Oh wow! I have everything crossed for you. How exciting! I bet you don’t dare believe this is actually happening.

I’m so sorry you’re in pain. That sounds miserable. Is it because you can’t take all your usual medications? The doctors will work it out between them. I guess there may be an element of trial and error.

Yes, I have heard good things about these clinics. I’ve been following the Gennet thread on FF but have never posted on FF. It’s nice to have another option while we’re in waiting limbo.

No Aussie connections. I lived/worked there for a few months when I was 18 (like 3 months, so hardly long!) and absolutely loved it. DH also spent a few months working there a few years ago. I always wanted to move out there and considered going to uni and qualifying there, then life happened and I didn’t. I just loved the “outdoorsy” feel of the place. Also, a lot of DH’s friends moved there/New Zealand and they said the way of living is so much better and that employers value you an awful lot more. Without saying too much (although you’re all bright sparks so I’m sure this will totally give the game away!), DH is about to have a massive blow to his working conditions and salary. I’m really worried about how these changes will affect him, as he already works crazy hours and is under insane amounts of pressure, so I just don’t know how he can work MORE without serious injury happening to him or someone else Sad. We’re also very worried about how we’re actually going to afford to pay our mortgage and potentially save for IVF as his salary (which is hardly excessive now) will take a huge hit. My salary isn’t bad, but post-tax almost half of it goes on my commute to work (madness). SO, another reason for moving to Australia would be to have careers where we both feel valued, would actually see each other (which is helpful when TTC!) and could earn enough to not worry about covering the mortgage on a modest house!

Vap - Sadly no. I need to stay where I am. I feel bad for resenting her because she shouldn’t be punished for having a normal, functioning body, but it’s going to be so hard. I also found out today that another girl on my floor is pregnant (I think she’s also about 4 months). This is going to be unbearable. Both of these girls are so so so lovely and I wish them so much happiness, but I am beyond jealous.

Ha ha – step away from the steering wheel. That’s funny (and a little scary) about the anger. Is it the hormones? Try and find a way of (legally) unleashing the anger.

As for the folic acid, can you get extra strength versions in the shops? You may not be this way inclined, but there are lots of foods that contain folic acid so you can eat lots of these (if you can stomach it. I’ve learnt to love spinach, ha ha). I wouldn’t worry too much about it. Just think of all those people who either choose not to take folic acid or don’t realise they’re pregnant (how?!). You’ve been taking it regularly so you’ve already had a head-start on many people.

I’m no doctor, but I doubt your BMI is a massive issue. From what I know, BMI is a bit of bollocks anyway. While I hate people who harp on about how “muscle weighs more than fat” when they’ve gone to the gym once but then ate 3 mars bars and complained about gaining weight, there is some truth in the fact that many people weigh more than others but are actually much healthier than those other people. Again, I really wouldn’t worry too much about it.

Best of luck with the scan later!!!

Have a good Friday everyone x

NewLeafExpat · 12/02/2016 13:40

Hola, hello I am back!

Soon many posts I can't keep up! You ladies are up on it with the essays :-)

So exciting to hear how things are progressing for vap and banana and keep those updates coming!

flat sorry to hear about the POAS reveal. I really, really hope some luck will come your way soon and you won't have to go through all 5 months of office baby mania.

I am back from the cold holiday, so ready for a beach holiday my bones are frozen burr..... speaking of... i went for the wrist X-ray before my holiday... Confused i have a hairline fracture (great!) and so I have a wrist brace which i have to wear for 8-12 weeks. Fab. Its been a week and i've washed the brace once and it smells again. its so yucky. anyway. I went skiing with the dicky arm anyway but managed no more injuries and just took it super easy and slow.

However I have not been very TTC minded with 'lots' of boozing (a glass a day) during this TWW. I have finally hit the wall i think and actually, truly, don't believe I will fall pregnant on my own/with clomid so my caring about trying this or trying that, eating this or eating that or "relaxing" or having lots of sex or whatever advice we have all heard... i'm over it.

Howeverrrrrrr, specialist follow up appointment is in less than a week so at least thats some progress!! I really hope i can go away feeling positive and not negative :-/

bananafish81 · 12/02/2016 21:40

Hi ladies

Flat ugh, hope the girl at work gets really really fat and is waddling around like a massive heifer with swollen ankles this summer

I can only express my most heartfelt sympathies to you and DH - so many of my friends are doctors and it is utterly disgusting what that twat is doing. Despicable. Nye Bevan would be turning in his grave. I can completely understand thinking about Australia - Drs are actually appreciated, and you get a work life balance with a fantastic quality of life. I think it’s an incredibly solid plan!

Newleaf Welcome back! oh you poor thing, hope you had a great hol despite the wrist. I think lots of Wine is almost certainly medicinal. And in any case, everyone likes to throw those ‘just get really drunk and it’ll happen’ so surely you were just trying different TTC strategies Wink

Lily welcome back! And the same goes about the booze as above - you can’t live your life as a nun and put your whole life on hold for TTC

Vap Hope the scan went well?

I’ve never heard of the 5mg folic acid being required for BMI reasons. And in any case, where you are in the pregnancy it will make bugger all difference - the time folate is really important is around where I am now, when the neural tube is closing and the heart is developing. You’ve been on the regular kind which should be more than enough for you if you don’t have any history of neural tube defects or are on any medication which would interfere with folate absorption (like epilepsy meds). I wasn’t allowed to start TTC until I had 3 months of 5mg folic acid under my belt, because the epilepsy medication increases the risk of birth defects - but I’ve never heard of BMI being a reason for needing it.

So I saw the specialists (neurologist & obstetric physician) yesterday. Epilepsy wise the danger zone is the first trimester - the chances of me having a seizure go up by as much as a third, but the Drs don’t want to increase my dose unless / until there is an indication that I need it (i.e. if I have a seizure). So not allowed to drive (not a big deal as we don’t have a car and I live in a relatively central area of London so never have need to drive), go swimming or have a bath, and DH is on red alert terrified I will have a seizure. He Pain wise, as we expected, I can’t take anything stronger than OTC paracetamol+codeine during the first trimester - we may be able to add in tramadol in a second or third trimester, although as little as possible is best. So unlikely I’ll be going back to work full time any time soon, just going to the two appointments ruined me yesterday Sad Just have to hope our little duracell holds on tight and we can both get through the coming weeks both relatively intact

Good news is that the obstetric physician will hopefully now be able to treat me on the NHS - as once the GP refers me to the hospital where he is part of the antenatal team, I will be in the system, and will be referred to his obstetric neurology specialist clinic.

I was really reluctant to see the GP and get a referral for antenatal, as it feels incredibly presumptuous to think I will get to 12 weeks at all. But DH says it’s crucial the GP knows about my medications and it’s logged, and that we have to assume I’m pregnant unless we have good reason to think otherwise.

Hope you ladies have lovely weekends xx

Vap0 · 12/02/2016 22:48

Quick update with pic, pic isn't the best but it was brilliant on the screen. Not read through, will tomorrow when I'm less tired. All went well, baby was wriggling about loads which was great, saw 2 arms and 2 legs which is a good start!!

scienceteachergeek · 12/02/2016 23:09

THANK GOD FOR HALF TERM! Spent £150 on clothes to celebrate...I love 'Joe Brown's' clothes!

So run down! Look like death and have cold sores all over my mouth! Period arrived 2 days late and have started clomid cycle 5. Period is horrible, really painful and looks more like mud than blood. Very odd.

I've accepted the job in the mainstream school with proper maternity and sick pay! There are some arguments about whether I'll start after Easter or May but good news nonetheless.

We're going away for a few days, Monday-Thursday but my consultant has decided what he wants to do with my arm and wants to see me while we're down in the south west. Rightly or wrongly I've delayed the appointment until we're back. I just want 4 days to forget what I consider to be my bigpileofshit life!

Nice to hear all your positive and upbeat stories.

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FlatWhiteToGo · 14/02/2016 10:19

Warning Warning Warning DO NOT venture into AIBU and DO NOT read the post "I just want a son :( not a daughter". It will create huge feelings of rage! WTF is wrong with people?!

NewLeaf - That really sucks about the hairline fracture and wrist brace. Bugger. Mamma Flat is telling you to just behave yourself and keep the brace on and don't take any silly risks Mrs! Hopefully it will heal according to plan. What a bummer though! I'm also really sorry that you smell (ha ha). I don't know what to suggest? Can you get a fresh brace? How grim for you!

I completely know what you mean about just giving up and believing it will never happen. In a way it's good that you're "over it". Obviously you're not really completely over it, but it's good if you've allowed yourself to let your hair down and relax a little and enjoy other things in life.

I'm 99% there too. In a way it's actually easier when you lose hope because you don't have the awful cycles of symptom spotting then disappointment and it's easier to just get on with your life (i.e. drinking, socialising, eating what you want, making career plans etc). On this note, I'm thinking of trying to organise a group skiing holiday for December as I feel like I've put so much of my life on hold "in case I'm pregnant". I haven't been in many years as (cutting a very long story short and limiting info as it's VERY revealing) I witnessed an horrific skiing accident where my friend ended up in a coma for several months. It really put me off. I tried it briefly after the accident but spent the whole time watching all my friends (waiting for something to go wrong) and refusing to ski in front of them and skiing at 70% of the speed I would usually ski. BUT life is too short, so I NEED to somehow conquer this fear.

Banana - Thanks. It really is a shocking state of affairs. DH went into this line of work because (as cliched as it sounds) he wanted to help people and make a difference. He has worked his arse off throughout school, uni and his career and he has got into substantial debt doing so (not because he is reckless, but because many years at medical school/paying for annual memberships to the various regulatory bodies/paying for regular exams (which can cost thousands of pounds) and courses and seminars and books etc all adds up). He already works crazy shifts (e.g. he rotates between two hospitals, and at one of those hospitals his weekend shift starts at 8pm on a Friday and finishes at 10am on the Monday WITHOUT HIM LEAVING THE HOSPITAL). They are short on numbers, so they're doing the jobs of three people all at once, so the whole time they're in hospital they are run off their feet. Yet JH is suggesting they work MORE and get paid LESS. We have a few friends who are medics and they pay their nanny more than they (individually) earn themselves! More importantly, many people do not realise that people will die or serious injury will happen, because the medical workforce (not just doctors, EVERYONE) has been run into the ground. It just makes me so angry, and we are so lucky to live in a country where we don't have to pay for medical care (well obviously we pay through tax, but you know what I mean...). What's really annoying is that one of our friends is a manager in the NHS. She works flexitime (she's contracted 37 hours a week, so she can come in late/leave early as she pleases) and admits her job isn't hard, yet she earns nearly £20k more than DH even though he works double the hours and literally (at the risk of sounding like a knob) has lives in his hands every day! Grr...anyway, rant over Grin.

I'm so sorry you're in pain and there's not much they can really do. Can they not just put you in an induced coma for 9 months? Jokes. Seriously, that's bloody miserable. Do you get any warning before you have the epileptic fit? Or does it just happen before you can do anything? You certainly don't have it easy! I really hope baby banana sticks, as you'll find parenthood a breeze after all of this!

Your DH is right about telling the doctors and getting in the system, but I completely understand where you're coming from. After all these years, we all know not to take any of this for granted.

Vap - Glad baby Vap is well! You must just be one massive bundle of excitement at the moment. Have the rage calmed down yet? Or should we all keep our distance?

Science - I have never heard of Jpe Browns. I'll have to do a google search! I'm tempted to follow your lead and treat myself to some new clothes, but I feel so crappy I don't feel good in anything Sad.

I'm so sorry about your period. That sucks Sad. That's amazing about the new job though! What a great new start! Presumably it will be slightly easier in a mainstream school?

I think it's understandable about wanting a few days on your own terms, so that you can just switch off and live your life for a few days. Enjoy half term and the trip down south!!!

FlatWhiteToGo · 14/02/2016 21:31

Erm...ladies...I can't believe I'm actually posting this, but this happened today...

Would you be my Infertility/Clomid/Follicle tracking friend please?!
bananafish81 · 14/02/2016 22:11

HOLY SHITBALLS!!!!!

Happy valentines day Flat and Mr Flat!!!

SmileSmileSmile

FlatWhiteToGo · 14/02/2016 22:35

I actually don't even believe it. I really really can't believe it. Holy fcking shtballs...

Just really don't know what to think. I don't even dare get excited.

Vap0 · 15/02/2016 07:35

Oh my god flat

This is AMAZING!!!!

I'm so excited! Best news ever!!!

Have you worked out your edd?

I can't believe these success rates recently! 3/6 with a bfp! science newleaf lily I hope you are all going to follow reall really soon.

How many dpo were you when you tested yesterday flat? You know, it was after I had twisted dps arm into foreign IVF and the possibility of adoption that we had our bfp.

Best news to start the week!!!

Sorry I missed it yesterday.