Rumples IVF/ICSI thread continued

[lildottie]

Our thread was originally started by Rumples who now has her bfp, as have a few other ladies along the way. Here's hoping the next thread holds a few more bfps!

Hi gcerron - yeah, don't get stressed by my weird diet. I'm overweight, and seeing a personal trainer three times a week. I have one polycystic-ish ovary and I'm trying to manage my insulin levels. The general rule I'm following is not eating anything that wouldn't rot away if left to its own devices (for example - fish would rot, but cereal wouldn't).

I have no idea if it's helpful or not (I err on the side of not or all clinics would be handing out strict diet sheets alongside our meds and needles), but I need to feel like I'm doing something. If that makes sense.

pg women can have runny eggs if they are lion eggs now apparently.

Sold our house today, only put it on the market on tuesday! hoping this is the universes way of telling me i am going to need more bedrooms!

Welcome black&white

I'm having such a bad day today. I woke up late, I'm tired and feeling icky then my partners new very rare baby snake has escaped from his vivarium and I was the last to open it. We've turned everything upside down but can't find him. He's only small.

It sounds silly but I can't function when he's upset with me. Everything goes wrong and everything stresses me out. One minute I'm angry then I'm crying. It can't be good for my embies on board

I'm going out with my mum in a minute to watch a comedian and feel so far away from laughing right now! Don't really know what to do with myself

Oh Phoenix, I hope you felt a bit better just having a vent about that and I hope your mum is the kind of person who you can chat about things to. A good rant really does seem to help sometimes.

I spoke to a guy in payroll at work about having my long service leave paid out to fund my next IVF. He said I need to arrange this with the state manager. The way the payroll guy spoke, it sounded like it was something that can be easily arranged. I then left a message with the state manager but hadn't heard back. So I chased him up today. He has never heard of this being done and neither have the people he has asked. He has sent a query to someone? and is waiting for a reply. He told me he will chase them up and make sure he gets back to me by Wed 6th. I have just been online to try to find information for him that this is possible and all websites say this is not legal! I am now in panic mode as my credit card is still $3000 in debt from my last IVF and I can't afford another right now. I will be 38 in July and so I also can't afford to wait a year while I save again. Eek. Waiting til Wed to hear back from him but I now have a sickly feeling that I won't be allowed to have my long service leave paid out to me. Nothing any of you guys can do. Just need to vent.

Hi Shell. I'm afraid I don't think it's legal either. As far as I know the only way you get get LSL paid out is if they make you redundant before you've taken it. I don't think you can just choose to take it as cash as an ongoing employee. (But I could be wrong, it's 10 years since I was in the audit dept)

I had EC today. 8 eggs but 6 really, as 2 were very small so highly unlikely to be mature. They emptied 12-15 follicles so was hoping more would have contained eggs, but such is life. Fingers crossed these 6 are strong healthy ones.

Hello, I'm very late to this thread but I hope you don't mind me joining you. I'm 41, DH is 38, sperm issues. We have one DS, 3.5 from an NHS cycle (frozen, first cycle unsuccessful) and did one private cycle (unsuccessful) last summer. Due to have ET tomorrow after a second private cycle. As of yday we had 5 strong embryos going to Blastocyst so I'm praying that at least 2 survive for use tomorrow.

To the lady asking about drugs, we got ours through Asda. I priced it up against our clinic but basically Gonal F was about £150 a pen cheaper using Asda (for a 900 pen) so we saved about £800 going with them. They were very good and would get the medicines in next day for me.

Does anyone know if I can take my son swimming today seeing as I'm using the crinnone gel? I know I can't once we've had ET but I wasn't sure of I can beforehand?

Hi mini welcome

I wasn't told that i couldn't take a bath or go swimming but I have read and heard a lot of people say it should be avoided after EC to prevent infection.
I would also worry about chemicals the day before ET too but that's just me being cautious. I always try to avoid things that'll make me blame myself

In regards to crinnone gel... I have no idea as I'm on the lovely bum bullets!

Thanks ladies. I rang my clinic in the end and they said best not in case of infection, etc. when we are so close (hopefully) to ET so we stayed away.

Hi mini I meant to post this earlier but got sidetracked so am glad you decided against swimming. I just had my EC yesterday and was told very clearly (and on a printed sheet I was given to take home) that I mustn't have a bath/spa/swimming for several days after EC because of the risk of infection. (it's not to do with the crinone at all). I would also avoid swimming pools because of the strong chemical smells - You are not supposed to wear perfumes or strong smelling deodorants etc for EC or ET as apparently it can damage the embryos, and by all accounts stinky chlorine clings for days!!

So... It's gone very quiet again!

How is everyone with their embies on board? Any twinges, cramping etc?

Tomorrow I will be 6dp3dt and am really starting to obsess now! On my first fresh ivf cycle I had started to spot 'brown' (sorry tmi) by this very day after a 5 day transfer and every FET has ended with the dreaded brown spotting. I'm just waiting for that to start and I'll know

So far I've had twinges and cramps come and go. Yesterday was a bad day emotionally as you know by my snake post! (We found the snake, phew). Today my boobs are hurting and I have twinges but I'm so unbelievably bloated I know it's all down to the progesterone!

Let's get talking ladies, I know I need the support/distraction. Tonight is the first time I haven't been able to sleep in weeks! Grr

Hi Phoenix. I totally get your concerns. I've always had the dreaded brown spotting well before my test date so I know how you feel. All I can say is every day that goes by without it will bring you one step closer! Take each day at a time. Fingers crossed.

Welcome all newbies :)
phoenix I'm still here! Just had posted so much thought I might be annoying so was lurking instead! I am struggling to sleep every night :( I read an article yesterday about how long it took the hcg trigger to go which prompted me to poas as it should be going about now. It couldn't poss be positive until next week for real due to implantation and hcg starting so thought I'd check. It was negative so at least I know if I do get positive, it's real and not remains of trigger! Silly I know but it gave me something to do!

I'm getting cramps on the left, have done since Et, would that be my ovaries left over from all the drugs or something else? I'm now 4dp5dt (did I get that code right? It's sat now technically and my et was Tues?)

I'm on the app so can't check back, but did I mention I stupidly asked the clinic what grade my one and onlyu surviving embie was, this clear winner... They said it's 3bb. Guess what I've spent the last couple of days googling :( this waiting is a nightmare! Oh well hopefully off to view some wedding venues tomorrow.... But it's so hard to plan dates when I don't know if this is working :(

Come on guys, give us some updates as well! How are you all?

Thanks Smidge, I'm glad someone understands about the dreaded brown. It terrifies me and my doctors never seem concerned about it even though I know it's game over.

Yay verkey I'm glad you're still there. I finally got to sleep around 3 then the lovely partner got up for a wee and drink being very noisy! Can't sleep again now
Yes you got the 'code' right hehe.

I remember googling embryo grades last time and got completely confused! There seems to be 2 way of grading them and it depends on the clinic to which one they use. One way means that 5 is the best grade where as the other means 1 is the best grade and I still can't work it out.
On transfer I was told that I had three embryos graded 1/2, 1/2 and a 2 which was fantastic because best results would be grade 1 or 2! Still very confused!

I've been reading lots of bfp stories tonight which has added to me stress. After being a POAS girl on every other cycle I'm physically terrified about doing it but at the same time want to get it out of the way...

I.... Need... Sleep...

Oh Phoenix, been there, done that and know how you feel. I remember not sleeping... then stressing myself out more because I thought being sleep deprived could only be bad! So hopefully when you wake up and read this, it's one more day that you are 'brown spotting' free.

It's not silly at all Verkey to pee on a stick to know the hCG is out of your system. I remember once peeing on a stick just after the hCG injection when I knew it would still be in my system... just so I could finally see a freaking positive preg test. Now that was silly!

As for me, today is day 24 of my cycle. Since starting TTC 3 years ago, my cycles have been between 24-27 days, so period could arrive any day from tomorrow onwards. Then I will feel one step closer to IVF as I can count down until day 20 when I start the estrogen in prep for IVF the following cycle.

So even though I'm not in that mad obsessive 2 week wait with you guys, I am still waiting and it's driving me crazy too.

That's the point shell it doesn't matter what bit of the cycle we're on, it's always an obsessing wait! Today I've decided I'm going to do something useful like practice making flowers for a wedding cake or something else useful like that, should help the time pass!

I'm still here! just plodding through the tww. I'm doing what hen did and poas daily - I too poas after trigger just to see a second line for a change!
the last 2days there has been a very slight shadow so I'm keeping everything crossed that it means something is going on in there.
sold our house this week 2days after putting it on the market so are now looking at houses to buy. stressful!

I'm trying to find things to pass the time too! DP is going out this afternoon and will be out all night so I really do need to keep myself occupied! I fancy a bit of classic rock and cheesy acting so I may watch The Rock of Ages on Netflix later whilst obsessively googling ivf

Do you usually do sugar craft Verkey? I'm a bit of a craft person but the projects i have to do involve paint and varnish so can't really do much. I'm in a bit of a lazy mood today after my lack of sleep last night!

Wow all systems are go lildottie! Have you seen any you like yet? What are you looking for? I'd love to move. I do love our house and its really quiet around here so once your in the world outside is completely shut out but its too small. We bought it as our first house and we're slowly out growing it. Especially if we get that very much longed for bfp!

We're the same, outgrown our 2bed. mainly because we both wfh now. I was quite sad when we accepted the offer at the idea of giving up our home. but we want to move closer to my mum for childcare and she helps with my work. idea is I'll employ her eventually. we're looking at 4 bed detached houses. seen one with a loft conversion so 5 bed, and we would probably look to convert the attached garage to a downstairs office for me, then I could have a craft room upstairs too

Wow that sounds like a dream house! Very jealous. I need a craft room, its impossible to do it in this house, also 2 bed. The spare room is currently an 'everything we don't use but want to keep room' which will hopefully be our babies room eventually. Our front room is far too small with a huge kitchen which is irritating.

I hope you don't mind me being nosey, what is it that you do? Im very intrigued

I'm taking over more and more of the spare room with my craft stuff. Optimist DH keeps reminding me it's going to be the baby's room soon so I'll need to get rid of it... Not sure about that, maybe we can share?!

I am really struggling with this 2ww has anyone had the blood test at the hospital before? I've decided not to test before then (I think the 13th will be 9dp5dt so not much sense to test earlier) but do you know of they'll tell us straight away or call us later?! I don't think I could take it having to wait! And they'd call when I was at work?!?

I've never got as far as the blood test toes. We're given a HPT to do at home on test day then a blood test only if thats positive! From what I've read you need to wait for the call back though sorry

I think it may be game over for us. I was feeling so positive and everything felt different this time round but i had very light 'brown' about half an hour ago. This is how it starts...

aww phoenix I really hope its nothing and you don't get any more.

I'm a chartered accountant, set up my own practice 12months ago so not earning mega bucks yet as still growing. dh is a self employed web developer and earns loads so he is the reason we can get the mortgage. we're very lucky as we are looking up to £300k budget.

Toes my clinic always make me go in for a blood test whether or not I've already done a hpt / got the start of my period. which is a bit like rubbing salt in the wound they do them at 11dp5dt here. Unfortunately they phone back with the results later. A bit quicker than the normal call backs tbf (from memory about 2hrs after the test) as they know you'll be desperate to find out. (Well not me as I've always known well before then that it was a bfn!)

Well done lildottie on managing to sell your house so quickly! That's fantastic - and so exciting to be able to look for such a big upgrade! Will help give you something else to obsess over for a while too

Oh phoenix I'm so sorry to hear that. How many days post transfer are you? Is it worth taking a hpt in the morning or would it be soon to get a true result? I HATE the brown spotting. For me it's a bad bad sign, but then again I've never had a BFP to know if the spotting might also come with that. Fingers crossed for you that it means nothing and stops ASAP.