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Assisted conception after recurrent miscarriage part 6

997 replies

Arianrhod · 09/04/2014 13:04

Part 5 here : www.mumsnet.com/Talk/infertility/a1852840-Assisted-conception-after-recurrent-miscarriage-part-5

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swlondonnanny · 26/07/2014 06:22

Mel did you say you had your acupuncture yesterday? Is he/she doing any immune protocol with you? I used to have a massive temp drop after acupuncture...

Mel3062 · 26/07/2014 06:29

I did, umm that's interesting. Not sure what she focused on yesterday it tends to be for my migraines and energy level recently rather than focusing on fertility like she normally does.

Mel3062 · 26/07/2014 06:44

Just looked at last months and it did drop the day after acupuncture but not as much. Still high on monitor, I'm not going to even both try analysing!

VillageMum · 26/07/2014 17:57

pebbles that sounds like a good plan! Best of luck keeping calm yet busy this week!

A question for you all. I just wondered what other ladies do while on the 2ww where exercise is concerned... I've been doing some very gentle swimming with DD in the last fortnight, am now 5dpo and just wondered: is this a no-no? I know that swimming isn't recommended after IVF, but is it a problem in a natural cycle (where the cervix is presumably closed?) Argh, don't want to have to give up yet another aspect of normal life!! Same question goes for, ahem, DTD in the 2ww. Do you or don't you? Sorry if this is indelicate... Blush Everything that once seemed simple suddenly isn't!

suemays · 26/07/2014 18:09

village in Chinese medicine they tell you to keep warm so as long as the pool is not too cold or heated you should be ok. As regards to dtd it can apparently help implantation so go ahead and live life as normal!

VillageMum · 26/07/2014 19:24

Thanks Sue! The pool temp is about 26 to 28 degrees, so should be ok? You certainly don't get cold being in it. Good to hear about DTD helping implantation - just when DH thought his work was done... Wink

Mel3062 · 27/07/2014 06:37

Looks like af is arriving for me had cramps last night and this am even though temp rose to 36.98
The monitor was low today and said af due though ff says wed if ovulated day 12. Argh!!! Thought I was just 12 dpo today. I guess if it comes it proves it's the cyclogest holding it off previously and I've no major migraine this time ( touch wood) it's all draining x

swlondonnanny · 27/07/2014 07:56

Mel did you do a pregnancy test? At 12DPO you should get quite accurate result...
If AF started today/tomorrow you'd have AF free holidays Smile and maybe you'd have a lovely holiday baby next year ...

swlondonnanny · 27/07/2014 08:04

Village I don't swim much so never thought about swimming/not swimming in 2ww but as far as DTD is involved my DH decided ages ago that we shouldn't in 2ww! So we don't intefere with anything happening in there - his words . But as Sue said it can help ( also it is never 100% if ovulation happened) so we carry on till about 7DPO. After that we are both quite fed up with all that sex so we are happy to have a little rest Grin

Mel3062 · 27/07/2014 08:17

No I haven't as had pink when wipe I'll see if she appears today, af only lasts 3 days so even if it was wed id be free if it by hol but like you're thinking ;)
Village I'm going on hol Saturday I don't swim but I'll be going in the pool, never thought about that to be honest.
As for Dtd we tend to do every other day from about day 7 then when get peak it's once a day for 2 or 3 days depending if he's away, trying to do smep when we can then after that it's every other day for the next week just because I'm worried I'll ovulate later and miss it! We have about 10 days off maybe more but then I do ask if he relieves himself as they need to after 5 days Is it to keep them going??
Does anyone happen to have the quads programme?? I'm gutted I missed it and it's not on I player now :(

swlondonnanny · 27/07/2014 08:57

Mel have a feeling I saw a link to it on serum website a couple of months ago. Will check...

swlondonnanny · 27/07/2014 09:10

Oh, can't open it on my phone. Will you look at www.ivfserum.com under news? Not sure though if it is actual link to the program...

Mel3062 · 27/07/2014 10:12

It says it's been removed, I'll try on laptop thanks though nanny

swlondonnanny · 27/07/2014 10:43

Sorry Mel. I never use youtube but people seem to find anything they need there? Worth a try?

Mel3062 · 27/07/2014 10:59

Tried :(

Mel3062 · 27/07/2014 11:23

Af is here :(

swlondonnanny · 27/07/2014 11:27

Mel so sorry Sad?

swlondonnanny · 27/07/2014 11:29

No idea how that Euro got there Blush

VillageMum · 27/07/2014 11:59

mel and nanny thanks for the info! I sometimes wonder how it's even possible that we're still interested in DTD during the 2ww, after all that earlier effort - but there you go. If nothing else, ttc has certainly given our relationship a boost. As for swimming - think I'll go ahead, but cautiously! You can't put life on hold all the time and I've so loved the sun and water and just relaxing with DD and DS on their hols...

mel so sorry to hear that AF has come - but on the up side, you now know where you are in your cycle and what caused the delay last time?

brownstag · 27/07/2014 12:53

Sorry to hear that, Mel, but at least that's one mystery solved.
Village, my personal opinion is that you should do everything you would normally do (Mr S also told me the same). I'm sure all these people who get pregnant at the drop of a hat don't give any of these things a second thought, and also, as my recent experience of ovulating on day 3 shows, you never know when an egg might be round the corner.
When I was at the funeral on Wednesday it was that of my friend's mum. She was actually her two daughters' adoptive mum, a really wonderful, warm caring woman, and my friend and her sister are not genetic sisters. In fact the sisters couldn't be more dissimilar and they don't see each at all now and the sister hadn't spoken to her own mother for 6 years. It was the first time I'd seen her in 30 years. At the funeral the sister, morbidly obese, turned out to be naturally pregnant with her 6th child at 45! She has another 3 year old and the children have 4 different fathers, each more toothless and tattooed than the next. Yes, I am being very snooty, but I really couldn't help thinking, does the world really need a 6th child by this rather indifferent mother, with her really quite miraculous fertility levels? Not that the world would be a better place for more of my neurotic genes knocking about, maybe, but just to squeeze out one more child might be a little fairer. But when was life ever fair?

swlondonnanny · 28/07/2014 08:40

Brown no it is not fair but learnt a long time ago that thinking about other people just upsets me a lot. So I try to keep thinking about things in my life which I am happy with - I wouldn't cope otherwise Sad.
Suddenly this weekend I had a very strong feeling that I will never have a child Sad and what is the point to spend more money on tests etc as it's not going to work anyway. Didn't help that after stopping bleeding on thursday I had another bleed fri night/saturday. Luckily that stopped and I feel a bit more optimistic today.
Mel did you get your migraine? If not it really looks like cyclogest was causing it...
Pebbles how do you feel? Any symptoms yet? Wink

brownstag · 28/07/2014 11:14

You're bound to feel pessimistic after what you've been through this last cycle, Nanny. Nobody can give you certainty on the matter, but there are plenty of people who have felt exactly the same, who have gone on to have a child.
And you're right, nanny, and at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how many children someone else has, they're not our children.
Getting closer, Pebbles. There's no way I could resist testing earlier, but it only drives you mental so best avoided if you can, I'm sure.

brownstag · 28/07/2014 11:17

Meant to say, this AF I'm having is surprisingly heavy. I thought after my thin endometrium 8dpo that it would be scanty. So seeing I ovulated before the proliferative phase, it must progesterone that's done this?

Pebbles73 · 28/07/2014 13:32

Sorry about af Mel

Brown it certainly isn't fair is it!!

Nanny I understand exactly and have felt like that a few times myself. Hope you are feeling ok today.

I had done cramping last Thursday in a very specific area, had a few yesterday but that's it really. Could be cyclogest or my ovaries recovering but Thursdays ones were specific and different but not getting my hopes up!

Just in case I do get a positive and need intralipids I wondered where people got the from? I have the prescription but not sure where to go with it?? Any advice appreciated, thanks !

Mel3062 · 28/07/2014 15:10

No migraine so far ;) quite heavy af and bad cramps but better than migraine.
You could try healthcare at home pebbles or if near London I'd go to independent nursing services much cheaper at £103! X
And no it's so not fair