Assisted conception after recurrent miscarriage

[duggs1976]

Hey super ovulators and those struggling with infertility after miscarriage this is where we are! Come on over ...

I have not looked at the thread fora while. I don't want to upset anyone with more baby news. I had a little boy on Wednesday, born by emergency c section. He decided to give us all a little scare. Obviously felt the 9 months os stress waiting for it to go wrong was not enough! We are both doing well. I have not put this on the pred thread board, because he was a non Mr S/immune baby. Just wanted to thank you all. I may only know you virtually but thanks for all your support.

I would still be up for meeting up and am sure my DH would babysit him

Congratulations Lemon wonderful news, though sounds like it was an early surprise appearance?? The only thing that matters is he's here and you're both fine :)

Lovely news to see when I'm up early chugging my Pred x

Fabulous news lemon SO happy for you guys

Choccy fingers crossed this one is THE one - it has to be.

I had my IVF NHS app on Thursday so kick off next cycle - 4 August supposedly.

In the mean time I'm still having regular acupuncture, Chinese herbs for rebalancing and generally taking it easy.

I'm not sure whether to book intrallipids etc with dr. Gorgy beforehand as an extra precaution ? I'm sure I will end up doing so.

Thanks for the rest of the supplement info brown. It's got to be a matter if time for you now honey?!

Pebbles when do u kick off?
Sue how did app go?

Congrats lemon glad you are both well :) can I ask what you have called him??

Aw lemon congratulations. Duggs pleased your on your way choccy hope this is sticky xx

Huge congrats lemon, always good to hear one of us having success :)

Congrats *lem

Congrats lemon how early was he?

My appt was as expected - was told that another round of ivf would not work so would have to try ovulation induction.
He has written me a prescription for tamoxifen rather than clomid as I was worried about the thinning issues and drying cervical mucus. It's supposed to work in the same way as letrozole but has anyone used it? The dr is at a fertility conference next week as he was concerned about me going on letrozole as it has been linked to birth defects but is going to check at the conference. He was told by the lister not to use it for ovulation induction about a year ago so will see if that has changed. I asked if I would need ovitrelle shot and he said no need if I am ovulating on my own. Apparently there is research to show that if you do the shot after ovulation, the lh is very damaging to the egg and can cause miscarriages. Interesting as I had two on my only two goes on super OV. I am going to have the 21 day progesterone test to see if i am still ovulating or not.

Has anyone taking dhea noticed hair loss? Mine has started to come out since starting it.

duggs great that your next ivf round is so close.

pebbles when are you starting yours?

sue That's one of the side effects of DHEA I'm afraid :(

Congratulations Lemon! Tell us more!
Sue, although hair loss is a side effect, it's very unlikely to be the DHEA already because any hormonal causes of hair loss usually take at least 4 weeks to 6 months to affect the hair cycle. I know this because I've suffered years of bouts of telogen effluvium and, since the birth of my son, general thinning, so am a bit of an expert on hair loss. In the first months of DHEA my hair actually got thicker, presumably because of the increased oestrogen. Also, one thing I've learned about hair loss is: don't pay attention to how much is coming out, but look at how much you've got on your head. Sometimes you go through periods of increased hair loss that is matched by increased growth of new hair, so although it looks scary, it doesn't result in less hair.
Very interesting what you say about the lh shot: can that cause Down's I wonder? I was thinking of simply taking letrozole this month and not doing the shot although that was mainly because of financial reasons and the hassle of going for the scan. Except I forgot to take the letrozole today. Has anyone taken it days 3-7 instead?

I have also noticed acne on my face! Great I will be bald and spotty!

It could be the agnus castus too I am guessing? Two positives is that for the first time since having DD, I have got hayfever back. It's supposed to be a sign that my NKC are more back to normal. Also I have had lots of EWCM this month so hoping I have ovulated on my own. Am hoping that this cycle will be a normal length for the first time in 9 months since the termination.

Yes brown u can do days 3 to 7 ! Sue v interesting about ovitrelle x

sue I had shocking acne on DHEA

Many congrats Lemon sounded a bit scary at the end but so glad you are both safe and well.

Duggs glad to hear you have your start day. Fingers crossed.

Pebbles hope you are doing ok. It is so hard to just sit and listen to other peoples baby chat when all you want to do is scream that it isn't that easy for everybody.

Sue, I've recently got on top of my boils, but not through any chemicals or drugs. I now use a clay face mask every day, for a couple of hours, and sometimes overnight. This is better than anything I've used otc or on prescription.

Maybe I should try the clay mask. The dhea must be doing something if my hair and skin look crap!

Many congrats Lemon and glad to hear you are both doing well. Enjoy it

Not long then Duggs, I bet you can't wait to get going!

Thanks Belly I wouldn't mind but she knows I had a miscarriage, how are things going with you?

Sue I had some bad acne from the steroids and my doctor prescribed me Zineryt powder and solvent which got rid of it.

As for me unfortunately my Dad who is 83 was taken into hospital Sunday evening, he is not in the best of health and his memory has been getting worse and worse. He thinks we are all hiding things from him and getting more agitated and angry, didn't eat for two days and was acting very strangely so my mum called an ambulance and they have kept him in. They have done a brain scan so they can determine what kind of dementia it is and he had a chest infection which is making it worse so just got to wait for results and see what happens next. My parents are over an hour away but my older sister lives near them and been sorting things out. Feeling guilty as not been there but my sister doesn't work so easier for her. Also had appointment with Mr Gafar today and my mum didn't want me to cancel, so stresses though and ended up scraping the car today as well.

Appointment went well and we really liked Mr Gafar, going to have an endometrium scratch in second part of this cycle and then starting short protocol ivf on my next cycle so end of August. Going to have intralipids, pred, clexane and I assume cyclogest. He also advised to have this culture called Embryogen for the embryos as it can help to reduce early miscarriage. They also do the time lapse embryo monitoring so plan to do that too.

One part of me is excited and keen to get going but the other part is worried about my Dad and how my mum is going to cope. Have that horrible anxious feeling.

Sorry for the long me, me post, hope everyone else is ok.
Hope you are doing ok Ari.

Oh pebbles so sorry to hear this about your Dad. Is such a new dimension after this longing for life then when something happens so someone we love we are totally thrown the other way. Thinking of you and please don't feel guilty for pushing ahead with dr Gafar. We are here if u need to vent x

Aw pebbles so sorry to hear about your dad. It's so worrying isn't it. I'm in a similar position with my mum. She's now moved from being 2 hours away ( she was near my sister but my sister wasn't very helpful as she can't drive and sisters not in best health) to now 20 minutes. She's moved to somewhere where theirs a call button and she gets meals. It's better as she's someone to talk to rather than alone but I feel guilty working and only being able to see her once a week. It's such a worry when you see your parents get vulnerable :(
As for your car.. It can be fixed. I do things like that too I once reversed into the neighbour as my mind was elsewhere!
Glad you're moving forward with mr gafar though and glad you're having the embro screen it sounds good. Though penny says I don't need ivf I don't feel I can wait another 18 months to conceive and hope for the best :/ good luck with it xx

pebbles So very sorry to hear about your Dad. I know it's hard, you must be very anxious, but try not to beat yourself up about not being able to do more - you're doing what you can, and I'm sure your Mum knows this. And hopefully your Dad is in the right place to help him. Sounds v positive with Mr Gafar, I've only ever heard good things about him. Very best of luck for your cycle with him! And don't worry about the car - it's just a car, at the end of the day. Cars can be replaced, people can't so concentrate on you and don't worry about the car!

mel Sorry to hear you have worries with your Mum too. It's never easy to see your parents getting older or ill, sad fact of life unfortunately :( . And Penny may think you don't need IVF - but if you want it, then that's a different matter altogether, right? Are you thinking of doing IVF then?

/waves to everyone, lemon I'm sure you're enjoying your new bundle of happiness :) choccy How are you doing?

Thanks ladies, is good therapy coming on here! So sorry to hear about your mum Mel. is so hard to watch them going through it. Sounds like she is in a good place though and I think once a week is pretty good going especially with everything else you have to deal with.

I worked out roughly my ivf cycle and would mean being on my 2ww on my 40th! Might sound silly but I have been going trough ivf on and off for about three years and missed so many other landmark events and want to be able to celebrate this one. I am thinking of going ahead without having the scratch as could start end if this month. Dies that sound silly??

I think not. To be honest the scratch isn't really going to make a pregnancy stay - only a good embryo will do that so I would say go for it without. It is probably a money making add on but millions of babies are conceived without it and if it was that successful they'd be scratching all over the shop. Just my humble opinion but you are only 40 once so y will either be pg or else u can enjoy it x

Pebbles, you obviously take the no alcohol rule more seriously than I do. I used to be virtuous during the 2 week wait, but after a while of nothing ever happening I decided I wasn't going to miss out on everything. Although to be fair, if I'd paid out thousands for IVF I would be whiter than white that cycle!
Did anyone see this?
www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/health/news/article3811600.ece
Had some fantastic news today; my son had an ultrasound of his glands and they are normal. He's just skinny, so they are more obvious. I nearly kissed the doctor, I was so relieved. At last I feel I can enjoy the sunshine without this worry hanging over me.

Thanks ladies
Brown so relieved for you!
Pebbles I would enjoy your 40th as many babies have been conceived when ladies have bad alcohol and not known they were pregnant. I know what you mean though I feel guilty having a latte!!
I'm trying on my own for a few months hoping humira will do magic again then super ovulation again then I don't know maybe ivf I just can't wait years agAin.
Still debating about seeing mr gorgy and also debating still about prof quenby!
X

pebbles I agree to get on and enjoy your 40th. If the ivf doesn't work and you were careful you will wish you had thrown caution to the wind. I agree about the scratch as everyone would be doing it. Sorry to hear about your dad too.

brown glad to hear about ds.

So any thoughts to the following: I am still toying with the idea of ivf at either zita west or mr gafar at nlc. Which one would you all try? pebbles what made you go for nlc?