Assisted conception after recurrent miscarriage

[duggs1976]

Hey super ovulators and those struggling with infertility after miscarriage this is where we are! Come on over ...

That's it pebbles isn't it they all have different opinions! I hope the humira will work for you and you won't need ivf ;)
I've posted on that board too.
Ari I hope you're ok x

It's good that you've had them retested I haven't :(

Sorry Mel that's what my tnf was originally or might have been 38, retested after first injections and was 33 but no test after this second lot the same as you.

Oh right x

thinking of you ari

Negative test again for me today so looks like the iui hasn't worked. 12dpo so it should have come up with a faint line if pregnant.

So sorry sue :(

So sorry sue, that's really rubbish :( . Huge hugs, do you have a plan for next steps?

sue so sorry, big hugs, are you still going to Zita West??

There's just a small chance that it could still happen this month though, Sue. Implantation can still happen 12dpo. How long is your luteal phase normally? I've seen charts on Fertility Friend where people didn't get a positive until 16dpo for instance.

So sorry Sue was really hopeful for you. At least you have your ZW appointment coming up - give your self time to recover and get mentally ready for the next step. Big hug x

Ari feel dreadful for you too. Hope the pain has eased and you are bearing up ok.

How are things now, Ari?

Actually ok thanks brown - I had some more bleeding this morning, but not as much as last night (and last night's wasn't all that much), and it seems to be tailing off again. Pangs in my side have also largely gone, although I still have that 'mild stitch' feeling directly under my left rib. Problem now is I seem to have caught the stomach bug that's going around DD's school, so I could be getting proper cramping and I wouldn't know it! :) Biting my nails (figuratively speaking) for tomorrow morning's scan, I just hope it's conclusive one way or the other, the indecisiveness of the whole thing is just driving me nuts.

ari I hope you get closure tomorrow

ari this seems to be going on forever so it must feel like an eternity to you. I am hoping that you get an answer one way or another tomorrow.

brown I was chatting to my acupuncturist earlier and he was saying it could be implanting later but then there is a higher risk it will miscarry. I have told myself I am not pregnant this month so will be looking forward to some wine at the weekend seeing as I haven't had any for over two months!

I also discussed dhea with my acupuncturist and he suggested I started taking it along with Angus castus. Can anyone advise where they buy them from and how much to take etc? I am thinking that if I do go for ivf at ZW it will give me three months to get it into my system. My acupuncturist still thinks that I have a chance to conceive naturally or with super OV. We worked out today that I only had two months this year where I could have conceived as my periods didnt come back until jan 13 after the termination and then DH was away two diff times when I ovulated. It just seems like ages until he pointed that out.

duggs I had a look at the YouTube vid and it looked interesting. I think I am doing all the right things already such as yoga and acupuncture so not sure what else I can do without getting even more obsessed!

Not sure if I told you all but my friend who is preg with twins lost one at her 9 week scan. She is now 11 weeks so will be announcing it all to our friends next week. Not many of our mutual friends like her so no doubt I will be getting messages from them sympathising with me. It doesn't make me feel any better to be honest.

So plans for me are to go onto clomid or letrozole after a months break whilst waiting for ivf if ZW will do it. Does anyone know which one has the better success rates?? Also why can't I go straight onto clomid or letrozole next month as my body didnt respond to the ivf drugs so its not like I will have loads in my system?

buzzy how are you now?

belly when are you due to test?

Sue letrozole is better as doesn't thin the uterine lining like clomid can do.
Think if you have been stimulated your body needs a chance to recover before being stimulated again - like flushing the loo too soon after another flush!

Sorry Ari what a journey for you but at least you should get some feedback one way or another very soon.

Waves to everyone else.
Yes sue I think you have a damn good chance of conceiving regardless of your body's response to IVF you still can get pregnant.

Waves everyone else.

Thanks duggs I feel like I need as many positive vibes as possible as its so hard to maintain. I keep remembering something you said in April last year, "we will all be pregnant by June". Both of us were but neither worked out. Lets hope the 2nd half of this year will be good for us old timers!!

Sue, I got my DHEA from Vitasunn because they were the only vegetarian ones I could find. They come from America, as it will wherever you buy it from, so will take a couple of weeks. If you need some to tide you over, let me know. Although I have transferred them to another container so you'd have to take my word for what they are! Mr S says he never gives Clomid to women over 35 as it just doesn't work very often. It caused me dreadful vaginal dryness. Letrozole is meant to be better and out of your system quicker
Ari, will be thinking of you tomorrow. Pray it's definitive and, let's dare to hope, good news.

Ari so hope you get good news tomorrow we could all do with some x

Went to tesco and they now sell caffeine free 7up! I was very excited!!

lol mel :)

sue I buy this agnus castus www.amazon.co.uk/Natures-Aid-199220-Castus-1000mg/dp/B000GY76FC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371714954&sr=8-1&keywords=agnus+castus after having tried a few different ones, and having spoken with the manufacturers of this particular one about the strength, purity and efficacy of their particular brand. It does the job for me. DHEA I used to buy this one www.pricespower.com/dhea.htm having had it recommended to me (and read good reviews on this brand) - they have a good price, fast delivery, and the product is easily as good in terms of efficacy and purity as the more expensive (and more well-known) one at www.dhea.com (I also tried these, and found no difference). Dose is a difficult one - have you had your DHEA/DHEA-S levels checked? The 'standard' dose seems to be 75mg a day, with 50mg taken in the morning and 25mg in the evening. You shouldn't take it for any longer than 6-8 months (so I've read) and you should keep having your DHEA checked so that you don't go too high. From my reading, although I can't say from personal experience, it seems that letrozole is better for the over-39/40s than clomid, and as duggs says, I understand it has fewer potential side effects.

/waves to everyone

What time is your scan Ari?

thinking of your ari

Just got back from the scan. Well the good news is, they don't believe it's ectopic, so they're ruling that out. That I am very thankful for. The I-don't-know-what-you-call-it news is, the gestational sac is still there (but has only grown a tiny bit, nothing like it should have done), but there is now a yolk sac. No fetal pole, nothing else. Given that I should technically be about 7w5d by now, by anyone's standards this is rubbish. They've stated they don't believe there's any chance this could be a viable pregnancy, however because there has been a change they cannot tell me to terminate it yet. I have to go back in another week (next Fri morning) for yet another scan.

I'm SO tempted to just stop the estrogen/progesterone and let my body get rid of it. Everyone knows this cannot be viable - if the gestational sac had at least grown properly (supposed to be 1mm a day) then maybe, just maybe, you could have called it a slow-grower. But this isn't slow - it's almost standstill! The staff nurse I was talking to said because hCG is still rising is why the yolk sac has developed, the pregnancy hormones are continuing it along, even though there's virtually no chance this will turn into a baby.

So my limbo continues, I have to put my life on hold for yet another week.

ari am relieved that it is not an ectopic. Sorry you are still in limbo. A big hug for you