Gunman in Cumbria

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Anyone seen this on the news?
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10214661.stm

People are talking about a TIE???

Weird [hhm]

He was interviewing witnesses in the street where it happened, it wasn't a report of a genocide far away. It is unusual. Other camera crew must have told him about the inappropriateness. When important people die they have a protocol, such as black ties for the BBC. It is a minor point compared to the tragic events, but it is still unusual.

I was caught up in this today - was on the west coast in Cumbria for meetings. Fortunately I was much more south then he came but I had a dicey couple of hours when it was clear the police didn't have a clue where he was and he was obviously moving south - all we got told was that they wouldn't know where he was until he shot someone else

I work for an emergency service so I knew about it much earlier than the public and we got told to lock down the building and not leave.

Our staff (and all the other emergency services) did amazingly well and I hate to think what they saw today

Was so glad to get home and cuddle my 2 boys tonight!!

I'm amazed that the CCTV cameras couldn't track his whereabouts and he had free rein for 3 hours. Witnesses saw his car and presumably got his licence plate. Maybe the towns there are small and there are no cameras.

There's not that many CCTV cameras at all in the sticks, claig. I don't know of any outdoors in my village.

yes you're right. There aren't any in my village either.

That's very true Dittany, it was totally unnecessary.

Not that many cctv cameras in cumbria( excluding carlisle/barrow)

As an aside I didnt know there was that many cumbrians on here! Where were you all last year on the flood threads

I just hope that the family of the dead person didn't see that footage

very good point, totally unnecessary. The man Reid from Cumbria thanked BBC Newsnight for their reporting, but said that much of the other reporting today had been totally different.

I listened to the cyclists account yesterday and actually thought there was a lot there that was of comfort to relatives. She wasn't alone, they tried to help her, talked to her and did everything they could but she slipped away. The cyclist was clear that she was badly injured and unconscious throughout and that even if an ambulance had been on the scene it wouldn't have made any difference. I think all of that is what the family concerned need to know. I don't think we, the general public particularly needed to know it and there is definately a trend in the BBC atm to be more tabloid and graphic. I don't think they would have shown the covered up bodies a few years ago.

I was out last night celebrating an important event so didn't see the news reports but from what I can gather the bodies weren't moved for quite some time, for whatever reason.

I listened to Radio Cumbria at work yesterday afternoon, a station I never normally listen to and was very impressed with their coverage. The broadcast was somber and appropriate.

Agree only CCTV in the larger towns around here.

Having had the experience of losing a loved one to an accident, of which eye witness accounts and photos of the scene made it into the press, I can say that the families will feel very angry (eventually, they will be too distressed now to have those feelings yet) that their private grief is being put out there for people to gawk at. But, this is how the press operates now, people go through this every day when graphic details of deaths are made public.
My personal experience was that I wanted to know every detail of what happened, however uncomfortable it was to hear, because it felt like my duty to that person to know what they went through. But I really wanted that information to be delivered in private. I felt extremely hostile towards the press reporters that diligently made notes while my mum sobbed her heart out during the inquest. But years later now I see it for what it is, a way to sell papers.

auntpolly Sorry to hear you've been through that.

I wish the media could learn some tact and decency.

I've just been listening to the cyclist's account. On the one hand I was listening to his every word - it was very moving and he was clearly upset and traumatized himself. But this kind of reporting DOES cross a boundary, that's for sure, in terms of confidentiality and sensitivity to the feelings of the relatives - so soon, at the scene of the crime. This kind of graphic reporting is similar to how they do it in the US. It's not right.

gallery It must be awful for the locals. We were on holiday for half term near Seascale, we were at Muncaster Castle that day and they herded everyone there into the courtyard and kept us there (announcing to a place half full of kids that there was a shooter on the loose) for a couple of hours - no one knew what was going on. Only that evening did we see the local papers and realised how bad it had been. Feel so sad about it - we were in Whitehaven the day before and had been through all those villages during the week. Such a beautiful place and a tragedy.

thanks for kind words, meeting each other and talking is helping us am going to delete my previous message as media everywhere and don;t want quoted