Faith schools should say homosexuality is normal..

[daftpunk]

Why can't people just leave us alone

I hate prawn sandwhiches. Did not know I had the backing of the bible.

There was mention that if young people knew that homosexuality existed then they might experiment. I have two thoughts about that.

1. What planet would you have to live on to not know homosexuality existed.

2. So what if they did? No risk of pregnancy that way and they are not going to become gay if they were not already.

It's a circular argument that being gay is bad because the kids might find out. Because it's only bad for the kids to find out IF being gay is bad.

And yes lets bring in measures to ban prawns. I don't like them either.

Question for Riven:

I thought you were a muslim?

Homosexuality is strictly forbidden in Islam as well as judaism and christianity..

Oh loads of posters from various religions who should (according to the teaching od their religion) view homosexuality as wrong, or at least homsexual acts as wrong (and is this where the hang up about the sex rather than the love and the attraction comes from I wonder?) have posted to say they have no issue with same sex relationships. Don't single out Riven.

My post was so convoluted as to be practically unintelligible () but was meant to put you with the posters who have no issue with same sex relationships. Apologies if I made sweeping generalisations about your religion at the same time

"I don't know why people scour the whole book for obsolete passages condemning other people's acts or beliefs"

Well for one thing many Christians live by that supposedly obsolete rule. Ask Iris Johnson for a start. And this thread was started by a Christian who wants nothing to do with gays because her god hates them.

It's not as though the non Christians are making it up. We're responding to a Christian claim that gays are no good.

pofarced.
You are wrong about there being only one reference to homsesuals in the Bible. It;s not restricted to Leviticus at all.

Genesis 19 talks about the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom?both young and old?surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

Romans 1.
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men

Both accounts talk about homosexuality, and not in a favourable light. There is no dubiety on what the bible says on the matter.

Anyone who says that homosexuals is approved of in scripture is incorrect.

Also at daftpunk.

You are completely sensible thinking you dont want it seen as normal. It's not.

Take it to it's logical conclusion - If every one was homosexual wher would we be? No-where. We wouldnt exist.

There is a different between normal and what is accepted. Just because something is accepted doesn't make it right or normal. People or faith schools that do not agree with homosexuality should not be made to agree it's normal.

That bit of Genesis discussed homosexuality which is what the topic of the thread is about. You may wish to interpret it another way but Sodom and Gomorrah was not detroyed becasue fathers viewed their daughters as property.

I was merely pointing out that it is not only mentioned in Leviticus. As of my last reading the bible has never said homosexuality is acceptable.

can someone explain to me why the state should fund faith schools anyway, whether they're anti-gay or not? seems to me like it's the last thing our taxes should be spent on!

TheButterflyEffect, I'm glad you do not live by that rule. I think it's a shame it wasn't edited out since many claim it was a misunderstanding/mistranslation and then it couldn't be used as an excuse by those who DO want one.

Mistymou I'm no expert, but as I understand it worker bees in a hive do not contribute their genes to the next generation, but they perform essential tasks without which the hive would presumably not survive. By your interpretation they are not natural and shouldn't exist.

Your analogy was flawed anyway. If we were all women or all men there'd be no more humans either.

I'm sorry onagar
I had thought we were talkingabout people andnot bees. Scripture does talk about bees and their organisation. Not about homosexuality.

I hadn't realised I was making an analogy.

You could just as easily argue that celibacy is not normal, cos where would be if everyone did that, nowhere! So all your priests are completely abnormal and should not be encouraged. Don't be telling children about priests, because they might experiment with a vocation and how awful would that be?
Also, don't be telling them about celibacy, because they might never have sex, and be weirdo freaks with no children, and we'll all die out!

Tell me Misty, do you believe and follow everything in the bible, since you can justify your homophobia that way? I sincerely hope you aren't wearing both cotton and polyester or lycra, you be watch out for that smiting.....

Mistymoo, You appear to be arguing that gay people are unnatural because they are not needed to reproduce the species. So I gave you an example where that does not hold true.

The analogy I refer to was this:

"Take it to it's logical conclusion - If every one was homosexual wher would we be? No-where. We wouldnt exist."

If that proves that homosexuals are unnatural then it proves that women are unnatural since if everyone was a woman we wouldn't exist.

It takes all sorts to make a world, Mistymoo.

"where that does not hold true for another species"

There is no logic in your post mistymoo. None whatsoever.

I just re-watched the first episode of the west wing. Rather good on this I think.

mistymoo, you did say 'Take it to it's logical conclusion - If every one was homosexual wher would we be?'

I think onagar was just accepting your invitation to apply logic. The fact you don't like where the logic actually leads, is neither here nor there really...