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The sad case of Meredith Kercher

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FreeGeorgeJackson · 03/12/2009 18:11

I feel for her parents. The trial seems to have gone on for ages doenst it?
I cant see ( form what i read) how kNox will get off.

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DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 16:30

Are you suggesting the treatement he received is part of his wild imagination? If not what do you mean Dittany?

DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 16:33

When you say - 'this crime'

which crime do you mean?

dittany · 10/12/2009 16:38

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DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 16:41

Just to say again, his (and Spezi's) treatment by Mignini was reported in 2006 - over a year BEFORE the Meredith Kercher Murder. He's not just come out and made all this up since the murder happened.

Dittany - it's actually not in his imagination that this happened.

As you will see from the article I posted his co-author was also harrassed and falsely imprisoned.

"My co-author, Spezi, fared far worse: two months later, Mignini ordered his arrest and accused him of involvement in the Monster of Florence murders. Spezi spent more than three weeks in prison until an international outcry forced his release."

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Mignini is still being investigated for various wrong-doings. It's well documented.

Douglas Preston was 'attracted' to the 'monster of florence' because he is a crime writer. He didn't create the situation, he just wrote about it.

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DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 16:45

"I think he's also got some kind of freakish axe to grind all of his own, which is revealed by his obsession with grisly crimes where people are tortured and killed. An obsession he actually makes money about by imagining and writing about them."

Dittany - the books you link to in your post about this crime writer are fiction titles, not true crime.

another link about why this writer was researching the murders in Florence.

DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 16:47

"Did you know about his books?"

until you linked to his fiction in the post above I didn't know he had a successful career in crime fiction apart from being aware of his book about the 'monster of Florence' which is mentioned in teh article I posted above.

why?

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DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 16:50

"He's a fiction crime writer. This really happened."

erm... yes.

and?

he can't have an opinion on his treatment in 2006 (Which was reported in 2006) by Mignini because he writes crime fiction? and if he does then that opinion must be something he imagined and can't be trusted when talking about the treatment of Amanda Knox even though he wrote about that treatment more than a year before Amanda Knox was even questioned?

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Bucharest · 10/12/2009 16:54

This Preston business is a bit like Patricia Cornwell and her "theories" about Jack the Ripper.

DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 16:55

"That's my point! Real crime is bad enough but he actually sits down and imagines this stuff. Then he attaches himself to investigations about real horrific crimes too.

One or the other might be understandable, but both together? Ugh.
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he was doing research on the italian criminal system for a novel when he got interested in the florence murders. His job is writing books, he saw something he wanted to write about so he did.

Because of this he was mistreated and threatened by Italian prosecutors. Which I am sure you must agree is wrong. His co-author (a journalist who had reported on teh florence murders) was held in prison illegaly - which I am sure you must agree is wrong.

Or you think that it's ok for this to have happened because their research and investigations into something a bit 'ugh' is wrong?

What are we - you and I - doing if not researching a murder?

DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 16:57

patricia Cornwells non fiction series scroll down.

DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 17:00

" If you don't see it as having any bearing on what he has said and why he might say it we'll just have to agree to disagree that it's significant."

dittany - what do you mean by 'it'?
you think because he writes in a certain way when writing his crime fiction, that it has a bearing on what he might say about things which happen to him in real life?

If not - what do you mean?

Why is it significant in your opinion?

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ilovemydogandmrobama · 10/12/2009 17:03

But if you are a crime reporter, of course you will attract criticism from police especially if you are investigating something high profile. But don't see that Mr Preston cannot distinguish between fact and fiction.

Bucharest · 10/12/2009 17:04

Spezi is a nutter of the first degree. He was arrested in 2006 for false accusations and leading the police astray in their monster of Firenze investigation.

There is an awful lot of murky stuff about the "monster" and every Tomasso, Riccardo and Enrico has their theories. (I repeat, a bit like the bonkers Jack the Ripper stuff) but what remains is that Spezi and Preston make the conspiracy theorists look about as sane as Tom Cruise and his alien spaceship stuff.

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DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 17:12

"Knox's lawyer said she wasn't mistreated. Knox is also saying now she got a fair trial."

said she wasn't beaten? or that she wasn't mistreated?

When you say that Knox now says she had a fair trial (did she say before that she hadn't?) I assume you mean this daily mail report about it being a fair trial where she also is reported to have said 'I have faith in the Italian justice system. I have heard about the reaction in America and from a human point of view it's appreciated, but it doesn't help me.'

As I have said on this thread before - I think talking about anti-americanism doesn't help her case. I am sure that Amanda Knox and her lawyers know that too.

Associated press report that story as:

"Amanda Knox is counting on an appeals trial to regain her freedom after a court sentenced her to 26 years in prison for murdering her British roommate, an Italian lawmaker who visited the American student said Wednesday.

A jury in Perugia last week convicted Knox of murdering Meredith Kercher in the house they shared in that university town. Knox maintains she did not commit the crime.

Walter Verini, an opposition lawmaker in the Chamber of Deputies, spoke with Knox Tuesday as part of his monitoring of conditions in Italian prisons.

Verini said in a telephone interview from Perugia that the 22-year-old Knox still has faith in the Italian justice system, including the appeal her lawyers are preparing.

"She looked tranquil and confident that her arguments will be heard, sooner or later," Verini said. "Her eyes are the eyes of a young person who just got sentenced to 26 years, but also of someone who has not given up."

Verini said he spoke to Knox for only a few minutes as he visited the Capanne prison on the outskirts of Perugia.

He said Knox was writing when he arrived and welcomed him "with a kind smile."

Books were on Knox's bed in the cell she is sharing with a 53-year-old woman from New Orleans who is serving a four-year sentence for drug dealing, the lawmaker said.

Knox has asked for permission to work in the prison laundry, and she seems to have a good relationship with the other inmates, he said.

"She is able to socialize and I think she's treated well," Verini said, adding that he was not allowed to discuss details of the legal case with Knox."

wannaBe · 10/12/2009 17:14

I think someone who is actually a fiction writer and then starts commenting on actual crimes is creepy.

DuelingFanjo · 10/12/2009 17:15

"DF I've already said why I think this man isn't an objective journalist but someone with a weird axe to grind and thus can't be taken seriously, if you don't agree that's fine."

an axe to grind about what?

Bucharest · 10/12/2009 17:21

He's one of those weirdos in macs with bad personal hygiene who turns up at the police station and all the cops hide behind the desk going "oh ffs, not him again".

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