I HATE MUMSNET: Why one mum thinks the parenting website is smug, patronising and vicious

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night night

I have been manqué the ability to do that- thankyou verty much

bof i lived in marchmont for a while,hang out the doctors and chips across the meadows

Incidentally, does anyone have any ideas for me about what I could cook for lunch tomorrow?

sausage casserole- easy peasy or stovies

Sausage rolls followed by organic carrot cake?

Alternatively, switch to Canadian keyboard layout and get any number of excellent letters:

ééééé. èèèè. çççççç. àààààà. êêêââââîîîûûûôôôô.

You get the idea.

yay, my comment has appeared! [pathetically pleased emoticon]

Also, do you think it would be ok and not too traumatising to change my 16 yr old's name to "DoYourHomeworkAndStopPlayingComputerGamesYouLazyLittleSoAndSo"? I mean, I wouldn't want to be seen to be a mean and nasty mummy, would I?

I don't care what a DM journo thinks. Ian Hislop called MN influential. [smug emoticon]

mn=anonymous online forum.who gives fuck what anyone thinks

Does anyone remember many years ago an Irish politician (may have been the late George Colley) stepping in it up to his armpits when he made a scathing remark about "well-heeled, articulate women" (he didn't like them...) Well, this piece brought me back to Ireland (aka Afghanistan) circa 1977.

I hate women like Sarah Chalmers and the other DM writers who are paid (by men) to look down their noses at other women and their concerns, and to suggest they have too much time on their hands and not enough to worry about.

how very sisterly and enlightening "i hate women like...".get a perspective is an inane article yapping about a moderately known website

all this hand wringing about a dm article.get a grip

Ponders how a woman who professes herself to be "above" talking about the minutae of life with children is not "above" assuming that every member of MN acts/thinks/posts in exactly the same way. She obviously didn't stick around for long or else she may have noticed that some of us don't really agree on much!
As for bullying, at the risk of grinding my own axe, perhaps she should pay a visit over to BC where the bullying is rife - I myself was stalked and bullied by a "gang" of women before making the happy move over here.
Group dynamics will always come into play in a "community" - perhaps this journalist is just not that bright.

Would this be a good venue in which to say that I only ever buy print "news"papers when I need something to start the fire with? It's always good to have that vindicated.

all this braying about journalist looks a bit bulgy eyed sycophants

how very dare she ...

no biggie.but the squawking and personalisation makes (some) mn seem a bitty possessed

trot along,a provocative article,looking for follow up

I saw this thread when there were 4 postings just on it.

Bloody hell, halear!

Safe to say she finely got all your attention.

MN can get a bit ruff at times and there is a bit of Clickyness for sure, and hell, because I can?t spell, it is assumed I am working class. But there you go. For every time Iv been insulted, ignored, or left facedown with depression, Iv been made to laugh so much Iv put the baby off his feed.

BUT!

I would like to draw you attention to the safety hazard of looking at the DM.

This was sent this link recently, it?s the ?Kill or cure?Help to make sense of the Daily Mail?s ongoing effort to classify every inanimate object into those that cause cancer and those that prevent it.?

I am now convinced that the DM cause cancer it self.

LADYS! Dont forget to Wash your hands after handling the DM.

i would never handle the dm. so i assume i am safe.

It always baffles me a little, this idea that the DM is controlled by a Sinister Male Agenda (tm) to control female journos and turn them against their own kind.

By the collective force of their will, presumably? A superior telepathic control which, for some unfathomable reason, the DM's body of strong, intelligent, motivated, dynamic (if a little reactionary) women is unable to resist?

I suppose the alternative - that there are, in fact, women journos out there who look down on other women and write horrible things about them in a very unsisterly way because they are, sadly, quite nasty people and genuinely believe these opinions to be true - is too awful to contemplate?...

Quite possibly, UQD.

no woman has to write gushing praise of other women and the genderisation is a smoke screen inane article written by woman. so what plaenty male and female journalists are inane

Not all women love other women. I've always been more comfortable in the company of men. I am the mother of two young girls too.
I am glad I'm a woman but find the one upmanship displayed by other women on parenting websites very unsettling at times.
It seems there is little sisterhood or solidarity at play.
Surely anyone who has been at home with one or more very young children agree it is bloody hard work? No one gets it right all the time or even a lot of the time yet it seems we are all too eager to put the boot in and make each other feel even shitter than we already feel?
This isn't a criticism of MN particularly but of any forum where the majority of posters are mothers.

Some of the most sexist people I have ever met have been other women UnquietDad
We are way better at oppressing each other better then any men can sometimes. Usually out of frustration and jealously.
I think MN should be proud of its self; the DM with a drumstick up its arss about MN is a seal of approval in my book.
Hazar! For MN.
I think Scotishmummys comments earlier are also very wise words.
The vicious old husk that wrote the article will be made up by all the attention

As an outsider/observer to some extent - as one of the few dads on here - I have to say that there is an awful lot more support and solidarity than one-upmanship on here.

Yes, there is a lot of rough-and-tumble in the chat, but really 99% of the time people mean well.

Yes, there is the occasional "AIBU by stealth", the ongoing pitched battles over the usual old bits of ground (we all know what they are) and the odd thread which is blatantly somebody showing off about how much hubby earns.

But these are drops in the ocean - set that against the support and the information and the advice on here. The fact that one or two people publicly don't "get it" should not be cause for concern.

Yes, UniquietDad, I would tend to agree with you. The support, advice and care MN provides far outweights the sniping, bitching and oneupmanship that goes on in the background.
Goodnight to all MNers.