Expecting 14th child but will have more babies till twins or triplets??? I must be insane

[Divatheshopaholic]

I dont know if anyone started thread already. I just spotted this on DM
39 year old with 13children expecting 14th and there will be more coming.
I love big family, but after having two, we decided two is just enough but this seems abnormal, having twins or triplets is kind of her destiny

Disguss! What do you think? Would you have as many as her? I

"Baudelaire" rofl (and I like silly names)

But hang on - "Each week the family forks out around £600 on groceries - including 32 loaves of bread, 75lb of potatoes and 126 pints of milk."

Eh? There's 14 of them living at home, not 100! A typical family of 4 wouldn't need 8 loaves of bread, 19lb of potatoes and 32 pints of milk in a week (would they?) so what's going on there?

However I don't begrudge her her benefits - the same amount of money would normally be spread out over more families, that's all. As it is she's doing a vast amount of work, the work of several normal parents, for that money.

there must be some degree of mental illness here, i mean, all those pgs carry increased risks so she is in effect risking her unborn babies lives as well as her own and where would her DCs be then without a mother.

Also, how are they all going to feel about "not being good enough" because they were the extra singletons when all she really wanted was multiples.

And as for those names, i know folk name kids after celebs and so on, but after a serial killer in a horror movie!!!!!that is just sick

if those kids do not end up deeply disturbed it will be a miracle!

Come off it, Alwayslooking, it is clearly very different claiming wtc and child benefits to help support your 2 children, than claiming £800 a month to support 14 children you already have, and plan more, despite these children living in unacceptable conditions.

Am frankly incredulous that posters are finding ways to defend this woman

Madame - I found that a bit excessive aswell there are 4 of us here and we use about 1-2 loaves of bread 4 pints of milk and a smallish sack of potatos

If she spends all day keeping
"house spotless to avoid being tagged a layabout scrounger" and called a "slapper", how much quality time with an adult do any of them ever get?

we're a family of 5 (2 of them get free school lunches) and go through on average 4/5 loaves of bread a week nearly 3 loaves at the weekend when DS1 and 2 are at home (and I rarely eat it), I'm guessing that if he's working they don't qualify for free school meals so that's possibly 9 or 10 packed lunches a day.

Milk - 126 pints does seem quite a lot - but then I guess we use around 24 pints a week here - I drink coffee, but don't have cereal. And DS3 doesn't have milk on his cereal either. Only takes two toddlers to be drinking milk as well and it would easily bump it up to 126 once you've taken into account breafast for 14 every morning as well.

Amd 75lb of potatoes is only 34kg (ish) - again family of 5 and I use just under 7.6kg a week.

So her "food" use for 12 children and 2 adults doesn't seem overly excessive to me in terms of how much I'd expect to use

I'm not sure though where I've defended her poor living conditions and her odd desire to keep going until she has twins though - care to point it out to me where I said I defend her 100%???

So if she has twins next time, what will happen to the other 14 children once she got her prized twins.

How will they feel reading/being talk about as just being a goal to get twins/triplets.

'there are LOTS of families with one or two children where the "income" from work isn't enough to support their children........1000's of families who rely on the WTC and CB to keep their family afloat.'

Alwayslooking you were comparing this family to thousands of others that rely on wtc, and I was pointing out that they are, thankfully, fairly unique.

ooo that was a good guess of mine that it was 9 or 10 lunchboxes

Metro report says she starts at 4am making 10 lunch boxes up.

When I read articles like this I think that Child Benefit should be stopped after a certain number of children per woman.

and if we're going to be picky they don't get £50,000 in tax credits, they'll get about 40k (yeah I know it's still a hell of a lot of money).

But they who am I to judge when I have 3 children and currently get £20k a year out of tax payers pockets (not all of it is "cash" I hasten to add - that includes mortgage interest relief and council tax benefit) . Some of it I guess is tax that Mr Smith pays.

Think the worst part of the story tbh isn't the money, at least they haven't come up with the bullshit excuse of not being able to "afford" for one of them to work that a similar family that featured in the DM some time ago did.

The worst part is the reasons for having so many children, and the conditions they're living in.

I think we should remember though that this is an article in a newspaper. None of us know these people.

Maybe she loves all her children equally and speaking from experience they are probably all quite close and love each other.

People don't tend to see their children in terms of tax credits or how much they cost the country.

I hope I don't out myself to anyone in real life but here goes. I have 10 siblings. My dad always worked hard but my parents did rely on the money they received to support us, as I'm sure the parents of 2 or 3 children do to some extent.

We lived in a 4 bedroom house, had no car, no foreign holidays and are not mentally scarred by the experience. Six of us have university degrees, one an MA and one has a PHD.

We worked hard for what we needed and apart from a couple of SAHMS we are all tax payers.

Try and see the up side please.

Bonsoir - the child benefit aspect is small fry in this story - I really doubt that the extra £13.20 they'll get a week once this 14th child is born will have an enormous impact on their finances.

People ought to think of their children in terms of whether they can afford to bring them up without ongoing state help and whether they can house them adequately.

I know that Child Benefit isn't the be all and end all - but don't you think that there is a message to stop incentivising people to have yet more children when their families are already large?

Baudelaire, Vorhees and Frodo.

This is a joke, yes?

"People ought to think of their children in terms of whether they can afford to bring them up without ongoing state help and whether they can house them adequately."

Very true - but there would be an awful lot of childless families if that were to be stuck to rigidly and I'm not just talking about people on social security benefits, I'm talking about those on the benefits that this family are getting.

we need some sort of biscuit firing cannon for these situations

how is £13.20 a week in CB encouraging someone to have more children??? I don't anyone that would see that as an inticement when you look at the cost of a child v £13.20 a week.

I have 6 dc and usually spend between £90.00-£110 a week on shopping I also sometimes do a little shop midweek which is about £25.00.

And? I didn't have a child until I could afford to bring her up, and I am only going to have one, mainly for that reason.

well basically if you say "no children until you can afford to support them without ANY state money" - you're telling 1/2 the population that they can NEVER have children. Turning children into a class thing basically - those that "have" the means to afford children (so therefore are doing alright financially thankyou very much) and the "have nots" - those that will never ever been able to afford them.

Everyone thinks we are loaded too but I am not.

Thats true alwayslookingforanswers. We could rid ourselves of some of those troublesome poverty stricken nations where the poor have the cheek to reproduce not nott allowing any of them to have children, ever. Problem solved.