The BNP's Nick Griffin on Question Time, what are your thoughts?

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I'm hoping that as a because we are not recovering from the harsh penalties that 20-30s Germans were at the time after WW1, that we won't be as desperate to follow and buy into the victim thing.

I fear I am getting in way over my head.

dp

The victim thing is already in play, read the Daily Mail.

WW2 also brings to mind one of my favourite stories about the BNP's ignorance and lack of intelligence.

The BNP wants to stop immigration from Poland, yet managed to use a picture of a Spitfire flown by a Polish squadron for the RAF in an election poster.

Which hopefully made some people aware of the huge contribution that Poland made for our Country in WW2 and how shamefully we let them down in the aftermath.

Genius.

As said they really don't think things through, they rely on cheap tactics and people actually not thinking.

I heard that the RAF are trying to get them to take that down as they don't want to be linked to the bnp.

I still think this bloke should be put through the wringer on Thursday though. I want his public facade to be peeled away, carefully so we are left in no doubt as to what his agender is.
Maybe women's rights should be brought up.

Unfortunatly they have a large stupid target audience

they're not a major threat to the political system of this counrty...but i'm glad they're out there....good for people to have a choice.

i don't think a politician relying on cheap tactics is unique to NG.

LL....not everyone who votes BNP is a mindless idiot.

Ladylush don't just

so glad i've grown out of telling people to fuck off

Anyone who has voted for the BNP has clearly given the same lack of thought about their policies as the BNP themselves have.

Actually, they've probably thought about them more than the BNP have. It takes more intelligence to mark an X in the right box than it does to come up with some of the BNPs "ideas".

Haven't read any of this thread but just wanted to share this thought from (journo) Hugo Rifkind:

Each of Nick Griffin's co-panellists should spend Question Time just repeating whatever he has just said in a squeaky girly voice.

I would laugh if it wasn't so disturbing.
dp how do you know?

how do i know what..?

that not all BNP voters are mindless idiots

PMSL Squeaver

DP I have thought and thought,but I can't think of any way someone who wasn't at least a bit lacking could vote BNP.

I sat listening to my goodfriend telling me last night how this Ocuntry will end up like Afghanistan with all the reliogions fighting, and we will all die; I did not think she has a point (I suspect she votes BNP though she has not declared it- possibly becuase she is a teacher), I thought blimey howdeluded about reality can someone so intelligent be?

And I suspect that pretty much covers the smalleprcentage of BNP voters who can be classed as not dim.

And totally agree with Twit and Badger's posts of 10.12 and 10.14

statistically, if a million people vote for the BNP....not every single one of them will be a mindless idiot will they....?

I don't know about mindless idiots, but DP, how do you get away from the fact that anyone who votes BNP must either have not noticed they are racist, or think it is ok?

I can't comment on the voters being literally unintelligent, how clever was it for so many people to throw away their votes earlier in the year?
I accept that the type of person we might normally associate with bnp does bring to mind 'thug' but you cannot truly say that they are all [leaders in particular] are lacking in intelligence- which is what scares me the most about Thursday.
twatty arseholes yes, but mindless morons, no.

I agree with thesecondcoming's post about all the possible pitfalls re NG on QT, and how he will actually end up sounding quite sensible (albeit in a Daily Mail stylee) on a lot of points. It could all go very wrong, in terms of making thick people think that the BNP are just another party with a lot of reasonable policies. That's why I'm hoping that some of the questions from the audience will touch on some of the really outrageous and scary things that NG and his acolytes have done and said.

Of course people who vote for the BNP are racist. How could they possibly be anything else? Other than criminally insane.

anyway...it's not really a problem...the tories will win the next election...will get back to being the right-wing party they were..and new labour will disappear up their own arse......sorted.

whether the tories get in or not, this will still be a problem.

I agree he should be on, its a democracy, but its a good chance for the masses to see what an arse he is.
I think the more opportunities the BNP have to show themselves up the better

not as big a problem as they are now..

not sure the tories are into kissing the arses of every single immigrant they let in...

you know DP, sometimes I really wish I were a Buddhist so I coulod believe that you might be reincarnated as someone needing asylum or just the opportunity to earn enough tohave a bit of security.

I shall have to settle for rolling my eyes at posts that seem so divorced from reality instead.

I do believe we need to revise our immigration policies, but based on space not race (and I understand the differential between in and out is somewhat less worrying than people such as the BNP would have us believe), but there's nothing easy about being an immigrant in the UK- we might have benefits, a housing system etc (yay) but ultimately most poeple I know given half a chance would choose family ties and belonging over those

I haven't read the whole thread but my fear is that he will end up coming across as a reasonable person - there is only one thing scarier than a fascist and that's an intelligent fascist. I know many disagree but I personally don't think we should allow the bnp to appear on QT - I don't think we should be giving them a voice to spout their vile views or legitimising them in anyway