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The BNP's Nick Griffin on Question Time, what are your thoughts?

973 replies

overmydeadbody · 19/10/2009 08:17

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BobbingForPeachys · 19/10/2009 20:14

ItswGrimUpNprth

Oh NG is intelligent all right, he saw a gap in the market and went for it.

Sadly, IQ doesn't relate to EQ, honour or scruples.

idlingabout · 19/10/2009 20:27

I would have liked to see some highly intelligent and articulate non-politicians up against Nick Griffin as they wouldnt be worried about how it would play with the electorate` and would therefore be able to nail him; people like Will Self and David Mitchell spring to mind.

edam · 19/10/2009 20:43

Charlie Brooker would have been good. Or Reginald D Hunter. Or Jo Brand. (Don't know why I'm stuck on comedians but we may as well have a few laughs at the BNP's expense.)

daftpunk · 19/10/2009 20:52

peachy;

i am not defending the BNP, but you have to ask yourself why they are doing so well in traditional labour voting towns..?

abra1d · 19/10/2009 20:57

Carol Thatcher?

Kewcumber · 19/10/2009 20:58

I strongly suspect that most of the BNP's potential voters don;t watch question timeso I think its pointless. However I hope that they have panellists and questioners smart enough to reveal them for the racist bigots they are.

If people are concerned about immigration (and I suspect they're not - I suspect its mostly the colour people are that bothers BNP voters not whether their parents and grandparents worked to pay for our education) there are better ways to deal with it than voting BNP.

edam · 19/10/2009 21:03

I saw a piece where a journalist interviewed passers-by in some town where the BNP had got a high turnout - East London/Essex fringes somewhere?

He managed to find several Black and Asian people who had voted BNP 'to keep the immigrants out'. Proves rather ironically that you can't tell anything about someone from the colour of their skin...

Kewcumber · 19/10/2009 21:05

"they feel like strangers in their own country" - what makes it their (our!) country more than someone who moved here or whose parents moved here or grandparents moved here?

Frankly for a country that raped and pillaged the natural resources of many countries for decades, even centuries and kept the best jobs for the BRits leaving menial jobs to the locals, we're hardly able to take the moral high ground now on what we deserve in "our" country.

If there is any evidence that there is significant unemplyment due to immigrations then there should be a review of quotas until the balance of people joining and leaving the country is about right. And quotas must include ALL immigrants including australians, New Zealanders Americans south africans etc not just anyone who is darker than beige

HerBewitcheditude · 19/10/2009 21:07

I bet it will have the highest audience figure for QT for years.

ilovemydogandmrobama · 19/10/2009 21:09

Of course he should be on Question Time and defend his racist ideas.

Seem to remember Sinn Fein were gagged for awhile, and Gerry Adam's voice was portrayed by an actor which was just ridiculous, other than giving actors with a Belfast accent a bit of work!

NG should have the BNP's policies exposed and challenged in a public forum.

abra1d · 19/10/2009 21:13

I think we need quotas. I also think we need to agree what our maximum population should be.

I think that this decision should be weighted to take into account the views of people who live in the south and south-east of England, which has seen most of the effects (good and bad) of immigration. If you live in Scotland, for instance, (declining population) your take will be very different. There would be a case for more immigrants for Scotland.

I went back to my old town a week back. It used to be a busy prosperous place but now it was a heaving nightmare. It didn't feel friendly, it felt quite threatening with so many people there. You couldn't get away from the crowds for a moment.

scottishmummy · 19/10/2009 21:24

let griffin appear.air his odious views for all to hear.to stifle him buys into the oft touted conspiracy theory

Twit · 19/10/2009 21:30

I think it is something that must be allowed to happen, as has already been stated, but I am worried that he will be able to weasel his way in, out and around questions and make the rest of them look slow and stupid. I'm concerned he may well end up getting more followers beause he will make out he is for 'us' and one of 'us'. In fact the more I think about it the more I worry.

VulpusinaWilfsuit · 19/10/2009 21:38

abraid, what do you mean when you say the south and south east have 'seen most of the effects of immigration'?

allok · 19/10/2009 22:23

Baroness Warsi was on only a few weeks ago wasn't she?

She's clever and down to earth, Nick Griffin, inspite of his cambridge education, isn't so it will be funny.

Yep, he should be on - to censor them is to martyr them - I wuold hope that those odd people who think BNP is the answer to all the woes in the UK might just decide think otherwise after Thursday.

edam · 19/10/2009 22:24

Vulpin, obv. I can't answer for abraid, but I'd guess pressure on housing/infrastructure from population growth?

abra1d · 20/10/2009 07:51

Sorry--I conked out. Yes, I was being slightly facetious but it slightly gets my goat when I'm told by people living in rolling acres in the north and Scotland that the expanding population isn't causing problems. They're often people in towns who could do with some fresh blood and energy to get things going.

I say this as someone who has benefited greatly from some immigrants: I saw a fantastic doctor from a Middle East country back in the winter. ANd my mother was an immigrant, too, back in the sixties.

Meanwhile, the builders have got their eyes on another former orchard down here. It's going to be grubbed up for houses.

Nanc123 · 20/10/2009 08:00

why give a party that spreads hatred a platform to influence people, Its liberalism gone mad

Nanc123 · 20/10/2009 08:03

if he was attacking other minorities he wouldn't get a platform - it disgusts me

abra1d · 20/10/2009 08:30

I don't think that's true, Nanc123. I'm a Catholic and I can turn on the radio or TV most days and have someone tell me how stupid or wrong I am. Remember Popetown on TV?

RamblingRosa · 20/10/2009 08:30

Someone might have mentioned it already but there was a good article about this in the Guardian on Saturday. They were saying that the producers of the show had been pushing to get NG on for years. They're not silly. They know it's going to give them an incredible ratings boost. The article was also pointing out that the other panellists could/should have refused to share a platform with NG.

Meanwhile, backtracking a page or two, did Badgerspaws say something about the BNP's record label? WTF?!

Tambajam · 20/10/2009 08:33

If he is a leader of a legal political party and able to make public speeches and do the usual hustings in other ways, he should be allowed to do Question Time.
It makes me feel sick but it has to happen.

sarah293 · 20/10/2009 08:35

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abra1d · 20/10/2009 08:52

I wonder if the BNP know that we are actually all Africans. Africa is where we originated from (or is likely to have been).