OMG - teen dies after being given cervical cancer vaccine

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Yes Beachcomber, and the scaremongering accusations already too. It makes me worried that some people might actually prefer a news blackout.

Why was she vaccinated?

This alleged condition has been identified. What is it? Give it a name.

I will write a script for the next bit: doctors won't reveal what it is because of patient confidentiality.

Well I have just pulled dd1(12) out of this. I am kicking myself for signing in the first place without researching it tbh. Even without this poor girl's death the information doesn't make for reassuring reading. I am going to defer for a few years and think again.

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IT HAS JUST BEEN ANNOUNCED ~ SHE DIED FROM A TUMOUR IN HER CHEST

IT WAS NOT FROM THE JAB

thanks RT

you must be a journalist

It's on the BBC website.

bbc says it was a malignent tumor

Poor girl.

At least this should hopefully put a stop to the scaremongering.

NO I am just a telly addict and it was announced on Channel 5 ~ THE WRIGHT STUFF just before 10.30am

the RT in kangamummys name stands for Radio Times.

Poor girl. I was so schocked that it was reported in this way in the first place. In a country of 6o million people, teenagers must die every day soon after doing things such as riding a bike or eating a banana and yet it would never be reported in a way to suggest a link between the two.

'At least this should hopefully put a stop to the scaremongering. '

I don't equate having reservations about vaccinating only adolescent females with such a new vaccine that only provides protection from 70% of HPV strains that can cause cervical cancer when 95% of all cervical cancers are caused by HPV (often in conjuntion with another significant risk factor such as cigarette smoking) for no one knows how long scaremongering.

I have HPV myself. I've had cervical cell abnormalities and a LEEP treatment for it, too.

I'd consider giving my child Gardasil, but only if they're vaccinating the boys, too. Boys catch and transmit HPV, too!

Till such time, my two daughters won't be having this series of vaccines.

This isn't scaremongering. Of course it was reported this way: she died two hours after the vaccine, and it's likely the timing of the vaccine contributed. It's complacent to compare a vaccine (with significant risk and contraindications) to eating a banana.

My daughter is not having it either. The benefits and risks are still unclear, to say the least. It is a huge experiment, and I want no part of it.

Sympathies to the poor parents.

Definitely we need more reporting like this. For example, she was at the doctor with a "mystery illness" according to Edam.

This will alert parents to the fact that actually, it's not just a raised temperature on the day which is a possible contraindication. There's much more too it than that, and if you have any health worries at all you should get them thoroughly checked out before you say yes.

Poor girl, poor parents, to be at such and advance stage that hadn't, afaik been, diagnosed.

I have decided to withdraw consent for the vaccine next week until we have had our specialist appointment which is a couple of weeks away, then, if/when we decide to go ahead it will be in the doctors surgery and I will go with her. Feel happier leaving it for a while.

We can only advise our DD's to use condoms when they start having sex just as we were advised to protect ourselves from unwanted pregnancies. At least the HPV jab, albeit with the controversies, has raised awareness of HPV, cervical cancers etc and the very great need to have regular smear tests.

As for scaremongering, the Health Authorities are just as guilty of this as the general public.

ae - bear in mind that condoms don't always protect against HPV

AvrilH, As with STI's and unwanted pregnancies nothing is going to be 100%, but thanks for pointing that out.

Stuffitllllama, I'm not sure why you're thinking that a vaccination had anything to do with this girl collapsing and dying of what sounds like a horribly invasive and probably inoperable heart tumour? It's a coincidence. They do happen.

It's such a horrible story, and I do understand why it was reported as it was, much though I deplore the incessant, uninformed and indiscriminatory vaccine-bashing that goes on in the media. But now, surely, we can stop asserting that the vaccine was in some way to blame. Whether or not there are other problems with it, or any other vaccine, it can't have killed this girl.

I'm irrational in my own way - now I'm fretting in a paranoid way about 'silent' tumours that could lurk unseen and unknown in my child's body. Rare though it is. But I'm not fretting about the vaccinations my son's had and will have in the future.

Condoms do have a good record of protecting against HPV. There was a link on another thread.

Mamag, the timing, more than anything: though I accept it's quite possible that not even the timing was affected. It's impossible to know.

Not sure about the "incessant, uninformed and indiscriminatory vaccine-bashing" though. If only.

are you Mamag? or someone different? did I miss a trick?

Nah, I'm NOT MamaG! I used to be MamaHobgoblin, changed because I thought it was too close to Hobbgoblin (whom I didn't know when I chose that name) and now I'm wondering if I should change again!

I agree, it is impossible to know, but we've all got the same level of info (ie. what's been reported as of this morning) and probability does seem to weigh in favour of the vaccine not being to blame.

I must say, although I'm still largely in support of this jab, this thread has informed me of a few things I was unaware of, such as it only being potent for 6 years. (is this officially acknowledged?)

At least 6 years, beyond that they don't know yet.

It's not just one jab, it's three of them. Because they're too cheap to punt for Gardasil, which is one jab.

So then we'll soon have plenty of young women who, for one reason or another, don't get all three, or instead pay for a load of people to monitor that the maximum number of young women get all three.

Would have just been cheaper to offer the Gardasil in the first place like most other EU nations.

Well big sigh of relief all round we can get back to giving young girls a jab that most of them don't need and which we don't actually know offers any significant protection and which has a bad safety record.

Personaly I'll be keeping an eye on this one as I am very at the idea that this poor girl had a mortal tumor of which she could have died at literally any moment and nobody knew anything about it beforehand.

Stuffit, you have missed my point. I am not comparing eating a banana to having a vaccine, I am pointing out that in this case, the vaccine was as releveant to her death as anything else she may have done that day i.e. not at all. Therefore it shouldn't have been reported in this manner until her death was investigated.

It is perfectly obvious that the vaccine was just a horrible coincidence and she was as likely to have died an hour before as an hour after.

Only it always is "after", isn't it?