OMG - teen dies after being given cervical cancer vaccine

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Some background from Cancer Research UK.

Abouteve, people are already worried, slinging ridiculous claims around really doesn't help anyone. The vaccine can't possibly cause genital warts! The vaccine used in the UK, Cervarix, does not protect against genital warts. It does not cause them!

I'm worried if you bothered to look because my DD was due to have it next week. I was quoting something I read today on the internet. Genital warts are a symptom of the HPV virus. However, I will read your link. Thanks.

There's lots of dodgy information on the net about health - anyone can say anything, it's not regulated! Always worth checking your sources to see if they are reputable organisations that might actually know what they are talking about, e.g. Cancer Research UK.

Thing about genital warts is the vaccine either does not (Cervirax) or does (Gardasil) protect against them - impossible for it to cause them. Genital warts are transmitted by sex (including oral sex depending on situation) with an infected person.

Edam, there is an American judicial group which has been monitoring adverse reactions to HPV vaccines. I will try to find the link for it.

One of the reactions that they have recorded is persistent and widespread genital warts which have sometimes spread to other parts of the body. I don't think that there have been many cases like this but there have certainly been some.

scroll down to pages 4 and 5

Document is from this page

Also can we stop saying things like this vaccine prevents 70% of cervical cancers as this is simply not true. It is far too early to even speculate on if this vaccine will prevent anything like that sort of figure. So far this vaccine has not prevented a single case of cancer. This vaccine is in an experimental phase where it is being given to the wider population but we will not know for decades if it has done any significant good or not.

Just to be clear the above links are about the HPV vaccine Gardasil.

The article I read was about Gardasil too. I wouldn't have thought it was that different from Cervarix, certainly some of the reported side effects are common to both drugs.

However, if Gardasil does protect against warts then it's fair to believe they could be a side effect.

I work in general practice and we were due to have a clinic for HPV this afternoon. It was not atall surprising to get to 10am today and find that all but 3 of 30 appointments had been cancelled.

I am not one to worry too much about vaccine but today I am very glad my DD isn't in this age range yet. I think it wil be very hard to sift valuable, accurate information on this subject from the hundreds of sources of unvalidated information.

AFAIK Cervarix doesn't protect against genital warts so it would seem logical to conclude that they would be an unlikely side effect of that particular vaccine.

Something I find very worrying though is that the safety trials conducted with Gardasil showed that the vaccine could lead to a worsening of pre-existing HPV infections.

Considering that girls are not being tested for pre-exisiting infections and that it is known that HPV can be contracted through means other than sexual contact, I think this issue is hugely concerning.

Figures vary hugely but there have been studies done which show that between 30% and 52% of 11 year old children have signs of exposure to HPV. The idea that HPV is purely sexually transmitted is false. Of course one would need to examine results for the strain of exposure in detail to decide the relevence of this to HPV vaccines.

However current info definitely suggests that it is utter madness to vaccinate young girls without screening for HPV infection. It is entirely possible that girls are being vaccinated who have contracted relevent HPV infections by sexual or other means.

I'm guessing the info handed out to parents fails to mention the above.

scroll to pages 4,5 and 6 for info on vaccine worsening baseline infections

thank you for your research and links beachcomber

Sky News is indicating that the girl has underlying medical conditions. No further info ont hat though.

On BBC too

did the others who were affected have "underlying medical conditions"??
seems like that old chestnut is used a lot now

Hello stuffitllama, you're welcome .

As I said, no further info on there as yet.

For the record it would seem that a number of deaths have occurred after HPV vaccination as the result of thrombotic events (blood clots).

Not much info on the news just now. Just that she had serious underlying medical condition.

From the BBC:
"Dr Caron Grainger, joint director of public health for NHS Coventry and Coventry City Council, said the results of a preliminary post-mortem examination had "revealed a serious underlying medical condition which was likely to have caused death".

"We are awaiting further test results which will take some time," she said. "However indications are that it was most unlikely that the HPV vaccination was the cause of death." "

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8281673.stm

"For the record it would seem that a number of deaths have occurred after HPV vaccination as the result of thrombotic events (blood clots). "

would seem?

surely they either have died or have not, and if they have died the media would be using it to sell papers

even if your assertion were true, it would have to be weighed against the lives saved

AvrilH, I think Beachcomber was referring to deaths in other countries which weren't reported in the UK. I'm sure she will explain this herself though.

abouteve - in that case she should inform the Daily Mail. How could they have missed such a scary health story?

There have been around 20 deaths in American, so I've read.

If she had a serious underlying medical condition surely her parents would have been advised for her NOT to have the vaccine?

If they were unaware of it, funny how within 24 hours they have discovered it and said that could well have been the cause of death.

I do not believe a word of it just yet. Too soon to have the answer of why this por girl died.

Makes me wonder if an excuse had to be rushed out so not to interfere with the vaccination programme, or to put people off continuing the course.

Not too sure what you mean Avril.

There have been a number of deaths after HPV vaccination where the cause of death has been identified as thrombotic. This is not an assertion, you can go and read about it on VAERS (the US system for recording adverse events and deaths after vaccination) if you like.

There has been limited media reporting but mostly in the US where the deaths occurred.

I'm only pointing this out in the event that it turns out that this poor child has suffered something similar.

HPV vaccines have yet to save a single life and it will be a take a long time and a great deal of complicated epidemiology and clinical studies to figure out how many lives, if any, they do save.

So far both HPV vaccines have concerning safety records and far from convincing efficacy study results.

DH and I were discussing this earlier, DD gets hers next year. Also had similar discussions re MMR. Obviously, losing a child or having their health damaged because of immunisation must be horrendous. But then what if they developed the disease and suffered as a result? I don't know the answer to those questions, but that's what I'm trying to weigh up.

Beachcomber - was there a proven causal link?

IIRC, VAERS only reports what happens. So if you give 100 people paracetamol, and one gets a pimple on their nose, that would be an adverse effect of sorts. It doesn't mean that one caused the other.

If, say, tens of millions of vaccines have been given in the US, it would be astonishing if there were no thrombotic deaths among those who had recieved it.