OMG - teen dies after being given cervical cancer vaccine

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I agree with wannabe.

Its not scaremongering. A girl has died following a routine vaccination. Surely the public deserve to be told about this. Those of you calling it scaremongering what do you suggest? Are you suggesting that that there is a newsblackout in cases like this?

I heard on the news that they are halting the programme whilst this death is investigated. Thank goodness for that.

It only prevents 70% of cervical cancer. It doesn't protect against STD's which condoms do. Also regular smears will detect any changes.

They should have brought out a safe vaccine for the boys imo.

I agree WannaBe. We need to find out what caused her death and stop vaccinating until we do.

If it was a "bad batch", others could die from the same batch

If it was that an underlying condition caused a reaction to the vaccine, we need to know what condition so that other girls with it can be prevented from an untimely, preventable death.

My dd is out of the age range to have it at school but has received a letter advising her to have it at the drs surgery. She has made her own decision NOT to go ahead with this (yet)

DD's school was supposed to be starting this programme next week. I had already decided after discussion with her that she would not have it(unknown long term side effects, I would prefer to teach her about not getting STDs).

She came home last week and said that a teacher at the school had told her that if she does not have it at school, we will HAVE to pay for it to be given at a doctors surgery. WTF {angry], we do not HAVE to do anything!!

I have just rang her school to clarify that they will not be giving the jab unless they have parental consent which I will not be giving!!

I am sure the authorities will come to the conclusion that the girl's death was caused by ABV (anything but vaccines). I hope there is a way for the family to get compensation....not that it would fix the situation.

How many of you drove your children to school this morning?

How many children will die this week on the way to and from school?

Will you stop them from going to school, riding a bike, being transported in a car or bus?

Risks and benefits - we have to always consider - will it stop you giving your children ibuprofen, antibiotics etc?

Would rather wait until hear more on what happened. No vaccine will ever be 100% safe but wonder how many people are actually alive today who would have died if they had not received diptheria, tetanus, meningitis etc.

bigmomma it costs about 450 i think for three doses and somewhere else i read that people have to pay if they want it outside the "programme"

It can be done at a doctors surgery for free for girls under a certain age. In the UK of course.

I for one won't be risking my dd.... doubt very much if she will have it now. can't see the point of the risk as chances are she will never fall in to one of the at risk groups.

couldn't agree more

(toffs hat to fellow cunty one)

i jsut don't get teh point of thsi vaccination program so dd won't be having it.

"It only prevents 70% of cervical cancer"

Isn't that pretty damn good?

But is doesn't prevent cervical cancer. It MAY lessen your chances of getting HPV -which in some very rare cases MAY lead to cervical cancer.

It is not an anti-cancer vaccine and should not be marketed as such.

i vaccinated dd against childhood diseases which without vaccination and herd immunity she would almost certainly get.

i just can't get excited by this vaccination. if they want herd immunity why aren't they doing the boys?

I have read a bit more about it today and don't want DD to have this jab. Doesn't seem necessary to me so not worth the risk. Who knows what the long term side effects are at this stage. Even read about girls getting a dose of genital warts after having the vaccine and not through the normal way.

Not commenting on whether the jab is safe or not, because I haven't read any studies.

However, I am going to indulge in some DM bashing as I found these on bad science:

English edition of DM
Irish Daily Mail
more Irish Daily Mail

I mean, they could at least try and have some consistency across the board.

They don't vaccinate boys because although boys can carry HPV it doesn't have the same effects. However I know of several members of the medical profession who have vaccinated their sons.

yes i know it doens't have teh same effect (i do have a basic graps of human anatomy) but normally when vaccinations are launced herd immunity is bleated on about and boys are part of the herd.

at least DM is impartial, bit more than you can say about bad sciencem which anyway lauds a lot of old surveys that Cochrane or whoever it was says were inadequate

all the papers are reporting it, not just DM

But these strains of HPV are precursor to cervical cancer and so by immunising women they hope to cut cervical cancer. Boys can carry it and pass it on - those who have had the immunisation will have a lower risk of developing the cancer and those who didn't stand a higher risk of developing cancer.

The boys just carry on regardless...

This isn't "herd" immunity programme.

so if a young person is unlikely to have sex, do they need it?

Saying someone might get knocked over so you shouldn't go out is just plain ridiculous. You can take steps to not get run over, if you decide to have a jab you are taking an unknown risk in many cases.

No 2shoes they won't need it. AFAIK HPV is passed to women by men. The more partners you have the more at risk but it can take just one partner to infect you if he has it.

Also this vaccine will only be effective for 6 years or so.

Condoms and regular smears instead is how I'm advising my DD.