3 sisters pg at 12, 14 and 16 - mother blames school for lack of sex education

[suzywong]

Of course it was in the Sun

I do not want to get in to the benefit angle at all, I just wonder if anyone else has any ideas about how to get the contraception message through to girls? I mean one of these kids was PG 3 times prior to this at under 16! Their mother blames the schools for not starting sex ed early enough.

What do you think?

an 11yr old having sex is just sick and the mother 'letting' it happen is disgraceful, honestly its a ringing up social services offence I would have thought

"I still come back wth disbelief that it happened to all 3 - could it be a case of she's got one, and probably attention and cash for it, therefore the others wanted one too - just like a Barbie doll or other trendy toy"

I really believe that was probably the case.

OK - it's very very wrong of the mother to allow her 11 year old to have a boyfriend to stay overnight (and I agree Social Services should be involved as it's like aidng phaedophelia) but it sounds like the parents of the boy knew about this.

They can hardly run to The SUn and point the only finger of blame at the mother. Why didn't they stop their son from being allowed to stay over?

I think Lita is a nice name

mothers fault. and the fathers fault

hmb, are you me? exactly my thoughts

I am sitting here with my jaw open ... and then I go all ... looking just like that ...
Can't believe this woman and her 3 daughters ... unbelievable!

Agree with everyone ... Happymerryberries - you write soooo well and speak so much sense ... your posts have been brilliant.

All I keep thinking is that if the 12 year old's baby has a baby when she is 12 ... then her mum will be a granny at 24 .... O - M - G !!!

Oh ... I knew a girl who had a brilliant future and career ahead of her. She helped the owner of a small company do the books. She was 17 and apparently had an amazing head for numbers although she didn't do well at school because of her behaviour. Her boss offered to help her finish her schooling and finance her through university to do an accounting degree ... guess what? She declined ... because she and her boyfriend were desperate for a baby so that they could get a flat and move out of her mum's house ...
A year later she was in her flat with a set of twins, on her own as boyfriend had run off. She was miserable.

Can anyone imagine how the conversation went though;

"Mum can I have my boyfriend sleep over in my room , we've moved on from heavy petting and want more privacy?"
"Course you can, pet,"

It's quite unthinkable, thank the lord, to 99% of the population

You started this thread suzy, so you shall finish it!!!!

I still feel a bit sorry for these girls (am I the only one?) as working in the industry I know how words can be twisted (though I agree the plain facts are shocking) but for example the mum denies blaming the school...
here?s a link to the local paper?s story which puts her side a bit more sympathetically I thought
mum?s story

The mother is blaming the Goverment too???

Nice to see their side of the story. Fact remains they are in a tough situation. Their mum has let them down badly and they have let her down. Hopefully they will all look after the new littlies ok.

I do think that the sexualisation of society is partly to blame for cases like this. On the one hand, the media is reporting this case, open-mouthed in horror; on the other, they are showing Celeb Love ISland nightly - as far as I can tell, this show is basically encouraging zlisters to be the 1st to sh*g on the telly. Talk about mixed messages.
I have taught many girls who see motherhood as their only chance of a 'career'. As they see it, its a better life than stacking shelves/cleaning offices etc, which is all some of these girls are equipped for intellectually. And they do desperately want someone to love, who will love them back.
Haven't yet read whole thread BTW.

Um,where are the fathers?
And their parents? They are part of the irresponsibility too.

I know someone who did a phd analysing some of the possible reasons why the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in Western Europe is in South Wales.
Deprived post-industrial communities, high unemployment, fractured families etc lead to low self-esteem and bleak future prospects. Pregnancy/motherhood often (mistakenly) seen as a way of affirming one's identity, becoming an adult, getting on in life etc.

The sexualization of society cannot help matters, but cannot be the main cause of this, as it exists in all the other European countries where the teenage birth rates are much lower too....

todays copy of the son, the father of the ekdest\girk baby (the baby\is very dark\sjinned) is asking for dna tests as he is white apparently.

sorry, hmb, you're right.

What i was trying to say was that the culture at the school is partly to blame - the culture being influenced in a small part by the teachers, but mostly by the children and their parents. The point being that I don't think the mother is entirely to blame - mostly, but not entirely.

Also really don't understand where the woman was coming from about letting the child's boyfriend stay over. At the very least she could have taken the opportunity to tell her about safe sex at that point surely?

I am with all of those who think that ultimately the responsibility lies with the parents, not the school. Schools are there to educate our children academicallly. Parents should be looking after their children's moral welfare. It depresses me that a parent would blame a school for her daughters getting into such a mess.

Also sex education - i.e. how all the bits & bobs work is hardly the same as someone sitting down & explaining why it may not be a good idea to have a baby at 12!!!!! GRRRRRRRR

Scroll down. See the local papers article. She didn't blame the school. Said the school had really helped.

She merely said that Sex Education should begin at an earlier age.

I don't know, I don't think the biological stuff is what matters. Somehow, somewhere, someone needs to give these girls help about self respect, choices & wanting more than to shag their boyfriends & have a baby when they are still children themselves. Riciculously idealistic, but thats how I feel.

Anyone else seen this tragic story about another 13yo mum?

Oh dear, it doesn't get much worse than that does it.

With reference to the 3 sisters, does anyone think that if our benefits system was less generous then the teen pregnancy rate would fall?

sex education at an earlier age!! how about sex at a later age -16 or over

Can't read all this, but it's just incredible.

When I was 12 years old I was still playing with sindy dolls and my train set.
Yes I seem to remember that I'd had the odd snog (still remember the boy's name.... arhhhh), but just can't imagine that I would have had sex. Was still pretty naive when it happened when I was about 18 (knew about birth control tho')

My two thoughts are, why doesn't the mother know where her daughters are and what they are doing at 12 and 13 years of age, and really the same applies to the boys who got them pg.

looking at my 13 year old and shuddering at the thought of her being sexually active and a mum by the age she is now.....

What a sad story - the girl with cancer.

In fact. although we always think of teen pregnancies as a tragedy at least these girls can experience the sheer pleasures of motherhood.

Many women nowadays don't have the opportunity because of men who fail to commit until its to late. That makes me even ier