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3 sisters pg at 12, 14 and 16 - mother blames school for lack of sex education

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suzywong · 23/05/2005 05:56

Of course it was in the Sun

I do not want to get in to the benefit angle at all, I just wonder if anyone else has any ideas about how to get the contraception message through to girls? I mean one of these kids was PG 3 times prior to this at under 16! Their mother blames the schools for not starting sex ed early enough.

What do you think?

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katzguk · 23/05/2005 09:16

its in the mirror to

how

PinkFluffPudding · 23/05/2005 09:23

OMG - I'm SICK of the blame culture our country seems to be sinking to.

If the school was to blame then using the stats of every daughter in every family getting up the duff at an obscenely young age would equate to ALL the kids in their school getting pregnant. A bit of a coincidence eh mum?

Also, who does this woman think she is, complaining about all the handouts? She doesn't have to pay a mortgage and I assume the benefits are tax free? That leaves one helluva lot more disposable income available than most 'nuclear' families get these days... what kind of message is that sending out?

Stupid, stupid (oh no I'm gona say it), stupid, stupid (aahh, ahh aahh, can't help it....) F-ING CHAV!!!!!!

God.... I'm pissed off.

Must stop posting on MN in the mornings, I'm foul. Will go and play with dd instead.

Fio2 · 23/05/2005 09:25

i am totally shocked at 12 tbh

mum is obv a bit thick

assumedname · 23/05/2005 09:27

Unbelievable.

Fio2 · 23/05/2005 09:29

it was in the telegraph too mrs wong

Windermere · 23/05/2005 09:29

I have just read the article that Katzguk posted. I don't want to start a debate on benefits but I am Shocked!. I had no idea that the benefits were so high £250 per week for one of them without having to pay rent! After paying our mortgage we are left with less than that and my dh is an engineering manager who has studied for 6 years! I think I may be beginning to understand why having kids and relying on handouts is so attractive.

Nemo1977 · 23/05/2005 09:29

OMG so obviosuly the mother herself couldnt discuss sex ed with her daughters,sigh

Windermere · 23/05/2005 09:34

Poor babies

emily05 · 23/05/2005 09:39

what pisses me off is that we are a hard working family. When we had ds we really worked hard to be able to afford the expense of looking after a baby.
At the moment we cant afford to have baby number two. so stories like this really get to me. maybe we should just give up working, sell our house and then we would be able to afford it by signing on.

Auntfanny · 23/05/2005 09:47

well i know i was pg at 17 but my ds was planned with my partner of 4 years nad i had alot of sex ed at school, so that mother is obviously trying to cover her not so good parenting skills my mum always talked to us about how babies were made and contraception so school are doing enough to teach them. i wanna know what a 12 year old is doing having sex anyway i wasnt even thinking of sex at the age of 12!

morningpaper · 23/05/2005 09:47

I think this is just symptommatic of lots of young women who think that they have no prospects of any sort of future except that of benefits. I very much doubt that any of these girls got pregnant accidentally.

Did anyone see the recent programme on very young mothers - it featured a family like this on a housing estate - they didn't know any women with jobs, never mind careers. All they had was babies to mark their rite of passage into adulthood. There was nothing else on the horizon for them. It was very sad.

One of Labour's proposed solutions is to extend the age of compulsory education from 16 to 18. It's a very difficult problem to address.

Auntfanny · 23/05/2005 09:52

i do agree morning paper, i have done loads of degrees online and by home courses and plan to work full time when ds is at school and dp has a good job so it didnt apply to us we just really wanted a baby the age didnt matter. but i do think that the way the world is people leave school not having a clue what there going to do and having hardly any experience of the real world.

lucykatie · 23/05/2005 09:54

blame the parent...oh sorry she calls herself the mother!!!!

what an absolute disgrace, at least they never have to work or sruggle on the 31,000 they get a year.

SCROUNGERS!!!

noddyholder · 23/05/2005 10:02

this makes my blood boil I was on kidney dialysis and was getting sicker and sicker we approached social services as we needed dp to give up work to look after me They told us to sell our house and we did!it has taken us 5 yrs to buy another

SoupDragon · 23/05/2005 10:03

I know I only have boys but I'm going to make damn sure they are aware of their responsibilities wrt contraception.

I don't believe you can stop your children having sex but you can equip them with the morals, common sense and information they need to make informed, safe and hopefully "correct" decisions.

noddyholder · 23/05/2005 10:04

it is no accident that all 3 are in the same situation The mother would have done something after the 1st one got pregnant if she was bothered

Bouj · 23/05/2005 10:10

School is only one aspect of a young child/teenagers life. The learn so much more from their own upbringings, and parents beliefs. My mother said to me at about 12 (when i first got my period I think) 'I have only ever been off the pill 3 times, and I have 3 kids. Falling pregnant was very easy for me and my mother - just something to think about'. Needless to say I was petrified, and never took any chances! Fear works wonders..

JoolsToo · 23/05/2005 10:17

typical - blame EVERYONE but yourself!

(I'm sure there are plenty of people too, who could manage quite nicely on £2,400 per month. No wonder people complain about the benefits system when they're working their ar*es off to keep their families going and earning nowhere near that amount!)

sparklymieow · 23/05/2005 10:17

Read this too, and was think that to blame the school is disgusting and she should take a long hard look at herself..... FFS three children pregnant before they were 17, doesn't take a genius to work out that if you have sex you can get a baby, and come on... after the first one got pregnant why didn't she sit down with the other two and explain about the birds and bees.........

Auntfanny · 23/05/2005 10:19

im not defending the girls here as they were boviously either very irrisponsible or just plain trying to get some benifit money but surley thoese babys have fathers who should be supporting it takes two to make a baby after all and they were also the ones not using contraception???

suzywong · 23/05/2005 10:25

we do have to wonder why the father's are not expected to be part of the children's lives, or the father's families at the very least, that really demonstrates a dire breakdown of community values to say the least, it's very sad.

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Caligula · 23/05/2005 10:26

Haven't read the whole thread but I think this is largely down to our culture as well, where everything is oversexualised and children are positively encouraged to be interested in adult pursuits and interests too old for them. Trying to find an outfit for a nine year old which doesn't actually make her look like a child prostitute, has become a challenge. Try to find reading matter, TV programmes, computer games, etc., which encourage children over the age of 8 to be children, not adults - you'll have to look long and hard.

This is a problem which can't be simplistically put down to one cause - no-one parents, teaches, markets, etc., in a vacuum. Depressing though.

JoolsToo · 23/05/2005 10:27

Caligula - as ever, spot on!

hamster · 23/05/2005 10:29

Well the mother is obviously a great role model-NOT.

I think that it's horrible. Unfortunately I think that it is a new culture, a new lifestyle. And that it is the norm to these people.

I left school 8 years ago, and can safely say not one girl out of a school of 1300 got pg at school age while I was there. I just don't understand how girls so young(esp the 12 year old) can have it in them to have sexual relationships. Where are the Dads in all of this?

The schools, in all reality can't teach them anything they don't already know. Young people today know all about sex-they're doing it after all! They need to learn about responsibilites.

Perhaps contraception should be made more available to school kids, but then why bother having a law that states 16 is the legal age of consent to sex?

Having a baby should be a beautiful, life completing thing-not a way of getting a few quid for a packet of fags.
Just my opinions folks.
Gonna go before I get angry!

sparklymieow · 23/05/2005 10:32

I'm 26 now and when I was at school, just 1 girls got pregnant when we were at school, think it was when we were in the 4th yr (so about 14 or 15) I was 18 when i had DS and even i think that I was too young, can't imagine what it must be like at 12.......

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