NIck Griffin tells BBC that boats carrying immigrants should be sunk

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I think his victory in the EU elections makes him think that he can reveal more of his true true heinous side.

How long before he starts extolling the virtue of gas chambers?

You mean they enforce the law? Like those wicked policeman who chase criminals and won't let them have a moments peace.

Refugees often have no control over where they are sent.

no - that's not the cost of a passport - that's the cost of applying for one - and it's got bugger all with being allowed to have a work permit, or permanent residence.

Refugees, workers (either from within the EU or without) etc don't automatically get handed a British passport - or the right to apply for one.

Well, "often" is probably a bit mild actually...

are you talking to me, onagar? there are ways of enforcing a law, and an office full of thugs cackling and celebrating when people are deported is not the way. they are not your usual suited civil service types, they are vetted so that they'll be able to fit in with their existing racist team members. at least up here they are, anyway.

Daftpunk is only reiterating government policy -- to send a refugee back when that country is deemed safe. Hardly controversial

actually i'm off to bed. onagar, it's perfectly likely that you don't know what you're talking about on this one. more likely than not. as a civilian, i certainly knew nothing about the way they operated until my friend took this job. women kidnapped, prostituted, raped, kept prisoner... finally they manage to escape their captors? yeah, let's start bullying them, why don't we? really show them what britain's made of.

aitch...i'm not saying all asylum seekers are taking the piss...i'm just saying people have to understand why the BNP are getting more votes...the BNP are popular (if that's the right word) in towns with large immigrant populations....why is that?..because the schools, the hospitals, and all other services in those areas are being stretched too far....something has to be done.

UQD - you are quite right - the story of how many aslyum seekers of how they ended up in this country are shocking beyond belief.

Some "lucky" ones manage to catch planes by amazingly having got a visa to visit the UK - and then claim when they get here - they know the the options that the majority of their fellow countrymen have of their adjoining countries are no better in many ways that what they are trying to flee.

Brilliant, another hamster-wheel thread for the fascists to run round.

Someone asked earlier who was paying for the benefits these cunning asylum seekers are snaffling.

Well, the answer is, I am. And I and thousands of people like me say that it's all right with us.

Why are the far right getting so many votes? Because there are a lot of workshy idiots around who would rather blame Johnny Foreigner for their predicament than accept the fact that they can't get a job because they did fck all at school and got the push from their last job for pilfering and coming in late. God forbid that it's their fault - MUCH easier to blame someone different.

Let's not forget that our first major wave of immigrants came here to fill jobs that the British felt were beneath them. It's a bit late to ask for them back now!

I'd like to see Griffin swing from a lamppost personally. Live like Benito, die like Benito.

We had a refugee do a talk to us where I used to work, as part of some training. It was very enlightening.

The first thing she did was to ask us to write down the five things that were most important to us. Then we had three of them randomly crossed out.

what are you on about miflaw?...so anyone who tries to understand the mind of a BNP voter is a fascist?...jesus christ.

Yes.

That's exactly what I said.

well done.

so do you think i'm a fascist with a capital F..?

well yes it is controversial actually - last year the government decided it was safe to start sending Zimbabweans back home..........yet people are still being beaten to death and torture for their political allegiances as we speak. Although there are runours abounding that they may be seeing sense on it now,,,,,,,,

UQD - I sense that we may have something in common after all - I usually seem only to come across you in the religion threads where we have opposing views.

What I meant, daftpunk, is that this thread is a forum in which racists, fascists and BNP apologists may demonstrate their little tricks and techniques to the rest of us.

The majority of the people on it are, thankfully, of the other (what I would call "sane" and "informed") persuasion.

But, inevitably, at the same time, little rodent eyes will be gleaming at this new chance to parade for the grown-ups.

wow -- I didn't know that Zimbabwe was deemed safe. I was wrong.

is that a yes or a no?...i prefer people giving it to me straight...

don't worry...i won't mind what you say..

although I have to say I always find it interesting that these debates about immigration always come down to the asylum seekers - the most vulnerable people that come to our country - leaving everything behind often bearing emotional and phsyical scars that will stay with them for life.

People never seem to be so quick to condemn the MUCH larger numbers who come here to work - as doctors, nurses, shop assistants, cleaners, street cleaners etc etc - mind I suppose that's because they're "paying their way" - or how about the EI migrants who can come and work to their hearts content, use our health services and then bugger off back home having made a nice little bit of money to take back to spend in their economy (well what they haven't already sent "home").....

What you are is none of my business.

I have no idea what a "fascist with a capital F" would be.

I have noticed that you do spend a lot of time "trying to understand the mind of a BNP voter" but I'm sure it's a neutral interest in comparative politics that drives you. Certainly, even as you rehearse far-right rhetoric, you vehemently deny being a voter or member for such a party.

So I resign myself to expressing no opinion. You are what you are.

here - I have actually personally seen one of the letters and to say I was was an understatement.

There have been recent movements to suggest they could be changing their mind - but 1000's of them are still living in limbo,

very diplomatic miflaw..

the initial ruling - which was 6yrs after the violence started.