Please uncover your face-Matthew Parrish

[mrsruffallo]

Interesting article here
I have noticed that there are more women covering up in the last few years.
Any opinions?

...or because she's treated differently to her brothers?

People making judgements on what should and should not be "allowed" for others when it is not something that will ever affect them is wrong. People making judgements on what people should wear based on their choice "scaring children" etc is wrong. Civilisation means, in part, freedom to choose for oneself.

Oh, I can't be bothered, there is only a disscussion if there is someone on the opposite side and I withdraw.

Lol stuffit, nice twisting there

no, I was serious

sorry don't understand

shouldn't both sides try to understand each other? i thought that was the point

I'm a woman - i don't like the message it sends, therefore it affects me. Should we all shut the fuck up about things that occur outside our comfort zones?

sorry riven, I have 3 minutes left, I will do my best to put across my point but then you are on your own!

There are practical issues with wearing a mask that make it different from just a decoration.

Difficulties in conversation since we are designed to read expressions has been mentioned. Especially hard on deaf people I would imagine, but I won't talk to someone I can't see.

Identification: Since if there are 6 people wearing masks you can't tell which is the one you were serving in a shop, which is the mother of the child you are handing over and so on.

Try walking into a bank wearing a mask (I think helmets are banned for this reason)

As for anyone being able to go through customs in a mask as I said before that is insane.

I've seen women driving in a veil - how can that be safe? !

It does - i've tried it.

Stuffit, you are right the two sides should understand but not the "ban it"/"don'tbanit" sides the wearers and the non-wearers, they are the only people who are important here and the fact that so many people who have never and will never wear one of these things for any good reason think they are ^qualified" to make judgements about someones way of life is, honestly, beyond ridiculous.

When I was 18 I did reveal a lot of flesh - i was young, slim, thought I was a babe and i did it because it made me feel good. I cringe now when I think of what I wore and had many a battle with my mother who was forever threatening to lock me in a cellar.

But it's a rite of passage - a teenage rebellion thing and you grow out of it. The veil or burka is not the same thing.

I don't know Riven - it belonged to my sister in law's mother and I tried it on - it had a slit for the eyes but the slit was tiny and I found it affected my spatial awareness and balance. yes, I'm sure you'd get used to it but i wouldn't want to.

no, Canute, but they can explain how it makes them feel

I think that's very important because when there's hostility or distrust then talking about these things can help

Nancy, tbh your arguments here are pretty bigotted and in any normal situation I would have walked away from your appaling behaviour long ago, you seem very keen to oppress women whilst arguing that you are liberating them.

Women being forced to wear somehing is oppression - women being forced not to wear something is ALSO OPPRESSION.

Riven, I agree about the opposite argument being made.

Explaining how something makes you feel is not the same as calling for it to be banned. Read back over some of the arguments here and apply them to disability/black skin/homlessness.

"Would you choose to wear something ugly? Something that was hot and uncomfortable? Something that made people stare at you? Made people abuse you? Made children frightened? Affected your vision and made the citizens of the country you had made your home uncomfortable?"

Come on, appy that to almost anything else and a stoning would commence - and rightly so, it is massivly offensive!

Reality - not it's not true. if they are requested to lift their veil they are taken into a side room, they aren't asked to lift the veil in the queue.

King - feeling passionately about something is not 'appalling behaviour' all my arguments are valid and intelligently put. Yours are more of the 'yeah, so?' variety.