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Poor Jade fading fast - she looks quite beautiful......

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PillicockSatOnPillicockHill · 27/02/2009 21:44

and do you know what

i wont have a bad word said about her

Poor girl

Shit parents and crappy childhood
YES she went in BB and acted like a fool and YES she went in BB a second ime and said some ignorant racist stuff

but she was 'ill educated' and she did not 'know better' but in her favour :

she educated herself

she learned her lesson

she apologised and meant it

I AM a fan of Jade

I like her a lot and feel much sadness at this vibrant and humour full life cut short

Her little boys were goign to have the mother she never had and i SO relate to that

so KISSES for Jade tonight and much love -sign in if you wish !

No dessention please - not on here!

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medatiouswoman · 04/03/2009 23:41

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Monkeytrousers1 · 04/03/2009 23:47

lol. No, I am not, and have never been, a Moldie.

Totally! Free speech and I would defend you right to say it. I also agree with you. I am a bit befuddled over this. I am trying to work it out myself, hence the swings and roundabouts. It is funny and I am a twat - and much worse for caring. Totally!

medatiouswoman · 04/03/2009 23:47

MT1 - It's lovely that you have been keeping such a close eye on MN's falling standards whilst being deregistered.

Monkeytrousers1 · 04/03/2009 23:49

Cheers

thumbwitch · 04/03/2009 23:53

Um, I'm quite glad that they kept all the babyP stuff to one thread and I was one who asked for it, because people kept posting threads with highly distressing thread TITLES that I didn't need to see.

Came to MN too late for the MMcC stuff but I can't see it was in the same league, more like the Jade Goody league, I would have thought.

And the only other threads I am aware of being rounded up into one are the mouldiegate threads.

Are there so many more? FWIW, I don't think that it's so much a case of sidelining certain MNers (to suggest one thread only) but more to stop there being about 5 threads at once that say very similar things. Or am I being hopelessly naive?

FrannyandZooey · 05/03/2009 08:12

medatiouswoman if you want to have a pop at monkeytrousers, have the decency to do it in your usual name

Monkeytrousers1 · 05/03/2009 09:57

I dunno Thumbwitch. Maybe it's me being hopelessly naive. I really have no idea - most of the time I'm just thinking aloud, which is obvioulsy giving Mendatiouswomen a hoot. (I'm glad I inspire her so [grin}) I found the BabyP stuff distressing too - its more the principle of segregating popular (which is what they are) threads cos they distasteful to some of us. It just doesn't sit right. I can't out my finger on it. An I know I am probably taking this too serioulsy. Maybe I could blame it on perimenopause

Thanks Franny - It really doesn't bother me people trying to have a pop. I'm used to it, and from better people than MW! I just realised MW's name is a take on a (ho-ho) typo of mine. Oh the wit! I wasn't paying her a great deal of attention, actually. I thought she was just a random rubbernecker out for some cheap thrills.

AitchTwoOh · 05/03/2009 10:35

people must have the right to ask, MNHQ must have the right to refuse. i really don't see the problem, MT.

and i do think that in some cases MNHQ has a duty of pastoral care over its members. there was so much keening and wailing (and disgusting threats to the parents) on the baby p threads that there was good reason to be concerned for the mental health of some of the main participants.

if some people took issue with the (imo) over-identification, as they have every right to do on a discussion board, then there is a case to be made that at least keeping the discussion to one thread means that the dissent will fall away (as did happen on mmc and bp threads) because it's not as in your face on the active boards.

maybe in these cases keeping it to one thread is a good thing? it discourages the 'you are morons' camp because, well, in their view at least the morons are contained, and keeps the 'you are snooty bitches' camp off the thread as their main bugbear has been dealt with. seems like a practical solution to an intractable problem of having so many different people posting on a forum.

2shoes · 05/03/2009 10:39

Imo the corraling of the MM and baby p threads was good. I mean they were bad.
the mm in particular.
what I object to is being told by the op that I have to post in a certain way(and then by other posters) to me that is crazy, no one has contol over a thread.

wannaBe · 05/03/2009 10:49

well, it seems that even

max clifford has had enough

Lemontart · 05/03/2009 10:54

Nice to see your name still around MT, flouncing never really seemed your style.

Aitch, your last post (10:35) makes a lot of sense to me and I agree that the one thread benefits are sensible for certain topics. I also dislike the sweeping insults as a lazy way of arguing points on threads. Doesn?t really seem part of the mn spirit of "robust and honest discussion" to me. Perhaps I am getting old and more like my mother

2shoes · 05/03/2009 10:56

the insults are a pain(I have been attacked personally twice on this thread, by someone I have never heard of)
people are entitled to different opinions, callin each other names is just childish

daftpunk · 05/03/2009 11:07

i didn't post on the baby P threads and wasn't here when MM went missing...so have no idea how they went??, the only problem i had on this thread was the op was clearly a jade fan and did ask for posts supporting jade...where is the problem with that?...if you dissagree and want to start a jade bashing thread...start one...at least you get all like minded people together....when all different opinions are flying around that's when the trouble starts.

2shoes · 05/03/2009 11:11

but dp, if you start another thread about a thread you get told off.
why should an op dictate what you can post?

Threadworm · 05/03/2009 11:12

"when all different opinions are flying around that's when the trouble starts"

Wow. I thought that was the good bit.

Sometimes it makes really good sense for an OP to specify what sort of opinions, or spectrum of opinions will be helpful -- if she is an 'unconditional parenter' or whatever, she doesn't really want someone to come onto a thread she has started about some mbehaviour problem and trash UP.

But just a natter about Jade? I don't think that those who dislike the whole voyeurism thing or dislike Jade should be formally excluded from the thread.

daftpunk · 05/03/2009 11:39

lol..TW, i agree..that usually is the best part...

oh i don't know, i just thought on a thread about a young mother dying of cancer those fights could be avoided [naive]

2shoes · 05/03/2009 11:42

but dp, the fights are not about (imo) a young woman dying of cancer.
they are about the media circus she is part of(oh and her thug of a husband)

AitchTwoOh · 05/03/2009 12:41

"oh i don't know, i just thought on a thread about a young mother dying of cancer those fights could be avoided [naive]"

[disingenuous]

the whole POINT of jade from day 1, her saleability if you will, is that some people like her and others don't. it's the attention she needs (i did mean financially, now i rather wonder if it's psychological) and like a child, bad will do if good isn't available. she's a marmite character, that's why she sells mags.

but as it happens i very much think that has been put to one side on here, of COURSE everyone feels for the woman, of COURSE everyone feels for her children, but that doesn't make the fact that she is selling her dying days (just as she sold her life) any less worthy of discussion.

mersmam · 05/03/2009 13:12

As you say Aitch, of course everyone feels for her.

I just wish the newspapers didn't feel the need to report such depressing news all the time... Most of us are going through depressing times anyway with the economy the way it is, and most of us will have to face personal tragedy and loved ones dying at some point in our lives. I don't see why the media feel the need to enable us to live through other people's tragedy so much.

Like most people I think I feel compelled to read the news about Jade, and it makes me more and more sad each time...

Everything in the news at the moment just seems like it's designed to get us down further.

Why can't the media look for some happier things to concentrate on...

AitchTwoOh · 05/03/2009 13:16

because of this sentence here "Like most people I think I feel compelled to read the news about Jade."

they are not in the business of reporting improving stories, they just want the ones you'll feel compelled to read.

GypsyMoth · 05/03/2009 13:16

Mersmam .... What happier things? They can't just weed out the sad/violent/depressing news.......it's life, and jades cancer is happening to many,many families.

mersmam · 05/03/2009 13:20

Yes it is life, but as I said it happens to most people in their own personal lives so I don't see why we need to watch other people's tragedies as well... it's not even as if we can do anything to help.

They DO weed out the violent/sad/depressing news and report it because as Aitch says, that's what sells.

I'd just like to read about some more cheerful things that are going to make me feel more positive about life rather than suicidal... there must be SOME good things happening out there - can't the press go and look for them?

daftpunk · 05/03/2009 13:40

aitch..no, i'm not being disingenuous...iv'e never said i'm crying over jade, and i know she isn't everyones cup of tea, i don't know how clearer i can be about this?

this thread was started by someone who wanted to support jade, she asked for the posters who felt the same to post, nothing wrong with that imo.....she didn't get that of course, i don't think this thread was 10 posts old before the piss-takers turned up.

smallorange · 05/03/2009 13:49

I think people find the whole circus hard to stomach and I, for one, felt compelled to put my views across,'piss-taker' or not.

It honestly makes me feel sick. bleurghhhh

Threadworm · 05/03/2009 13:52

I really like Aitch's comment that "the whole POINT of jade from day 1, her saleability if you will, is that some people like her and others don't."

I think that explains why people felt it acceptable to come on the thread with negative views. They are responding to this created Marmite persona, knowing full well that the real jade has colluded to some extent with the creation.

And to anyone who feels that sympathetic posters are responding to the 'real jade', the young mum with cancer, not the persona, I can't help but feel that is intrusive. If there is a core of 'private jade', leave her alone (unless she comes on MN looking for support).

Some posters have said 'we wouldn't tolerate negative comments about an MNer with cancer.' No, but we wouldn't have been too happy about any thread discussing her illness begun by anyone other than her (or someone with permission from her).

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