Girl, 2, drowned in her buggy after father let go to kiss mistress

[mrshamiltiongiles]

here

what a bastard

'You weren't there, you don't know what happened and don't know the family. Call my last post nasty if you like, I'm not sitting in judgement of a man who has just lost his child.'

Yeah, we know what happened.

A man went out with his other woman to a secluded place, probably to avoid being spotted, went to kiss her, didn't put the brakes on the buggy and one of his children is dead.

People make mistakes.

But mistakes have a measure of degree.

In other words, some mistakes are graver than others.

'It could happen to any of us . . . '

Um, it can definitely happen to people who are out with their bit on the side - with their friggin' kids, FFS, and you lot are going on about RESPECT, LOL! - to a secluded place and take their eye off the ball to snog and gal without the brake on the buggy.

The McCanns: 'It could happen to any of us . . . ' It can happen to anyone who leaves their young children alone in an unlocked apartment whilst they go out to drink and eat.

Mistakes, both of them. VERY, VERY big ones.

Don't see what's so 'disrepectful' about pointing that out.

Newsflash: the media is an industry that exists to profit.

Don't like what they have to sell, then don't buy it and maybe they'll try a different tack you find more palatable if enough people take the same point of view as you and don't buy as well.

Yup you are right aitch the media's agenda is purely financial, nothing to do with promoting particular politics, morals or ideologies.

By wet dream I mean fantasy-i.e you are maybe the sort of person they know will buy their crap without questioning it.

I'm sure this guy has many regrets but don't let that stop you kicking him whilst hes down.

I'm sure this has been said but it amazes me that people can behave like this. To take your children on an outing with your mistress. To go for a walk with your married lover and his kids. What sort of people behave like this?

It sounds like what happened was an accident though I imagine he and the mistress will see it as retribution. I know I would.

'you are maybe the sort of person they know will buy their crap without questioning it.'

If that's directed at Aitch I can say she is far more intelligent than that.

So many threads on here about cheating husbands and oddly enough on those you don't see 1/10 of the 'poor chap, forgive him' that you see here. Yet all those chaps were doing is cheating, not getting their kids killed into the bargain through their own carelessness whilst out behind their spouses' backs.

I have to be honest and say (god forbid) If I lost a child because of my husband was doing the nasty with some tart from work and not watching our children I would kill him, I would go to jail for it but I would kill him.

This man and his strumpet have to live with the fact they are responsible for the death of that poor little girl, she wont start school, go to uni, get a job, have a boyfriend, get married, have a baby, learn to drive or any or the things we hpe for our children.
The poor mother will live for the rest of her days knowing the man she married, had children with and trusted to protect them let one die and another get hurt because he could not keep it in his pants, I hope he and the strumpet re-live it every day the fact messing around with another womans husband/wife has caused so much heartbreak.
I hope the poor mother finds peace.

weren't they separated (him and his wife)?

can't say it took on any significance for me (the other details) other than the fact that a poor child died in an accident. Dreadful, dreadful story.

It said this morning they were seperated but of course the media failed to actually figure this out before jumping with a 'child killed whilst dad kissing his mistress' senstionalised piece of crap to get attention.

Even if they were seperated the strumpet has a hubby at home.
And if they were seperated why has it been said they will be staying together for the sake of the other children (always a good way to go that)

see now there you go again, staggerlee, being nasty and insulting. i don't buy any tabloids...

and the point of the political agenda is to sell papers. they go the way the wind is blowing, if they need to change, they do. witness the sun backing labour when it needed to. you're getting all worked up about expediency, that's a bit daft, surely?

aitch believes everything written in the papers. She does, honest.

heh heh

it's funny what conclusions people come to when they are making assumptions on the t'internet isn't it? I can't think of anyone more likely to question articles than your good self!

Sorry aitch-if you found me nasty and insulting. I'm not sure I accused you of reading tabloids did I? I haven't a clue what you read but whatever it is you seem to believe it.

Guess I'm just saying none of us know about this guys exact personal circumstances, all we do know if that an accident happened and a little girl died. And I admit I just can't see what else really matters

well I tend to agree with you there stagger

I felt sorry for that bloke whose kids died when he was driving the landrover he had tinkered with (and they drove off into a pond was it?). I know he got put in jail and goodness knows what's happened between him and his wife now...but a moment of madness, whatever it is, causing that sort of life long pain. Must be dreadful living with that. No amount of jail could ever get you over that sort of guilt.

"By wet dream I mean fantasy-i.e you are maybe the sort of person they know will buy their crap without questioning it."

i think we all should be capable of discussing this without it getting personal.

foxy, funnily enough i had a similar position with that guy, it was the idea of being his wife that blew my mind. yes, a moment of madness, but oh my GOD the pain for the wife. unthinkable. and while he is in pain i do agree that the law needed to take its course there.

yes I thought of that too aitch. Can you imagine? I saw the news on the day he was sentenced and I think they showed her. I remember thinking how on earth did she even manage to get out of bed. Because her life has been utterly destroyed. Awful story.

I recall you calling mamadiva 'creepy' earlier in this thread aitch. Seems like none of us are immune to getting personal eh?

I did try to apologise but it seems you ain't the forgiving type. Aw well...

I think we don't actually know the personal circumstances of these people, but if (as appears to have now been reported) the parents of the children were separated, then referring to the woman who was accompanying the father at the time as 'his mistress' is not only needlessly unpleasant but dishonest. Both these people immediately jumped into the sea after the buggy and did their best, at risk to themselves, to save the children. Is the generalized moron-lust for someone to Be Punished only going to be satisfied when one, or preferably both of them, commits suicide?

I agree with solidgold. 'Moron-lust' describes perfectly some of the sentiments expressed on this disgusting thread. Some of you sound like you are fully paid up members of the Taleban FFS. Baying for blood like dim witted animals.

no, i wasn't calling mamadiva creepy. i was calling the mawkish 'sleep well hunny etc' creepy. that's what i think i mean by finding all the posturing hollow.

There is some interesting psychology here.

I think what this thread shows is that, basically, lots of women really, really want to have a big, BIG vent at men who have affairs, and unpacking their spleen in the plethora of "My DH is a cheating lying b'stard" threads kindly provided for that very purpose is not enough. And so they lay into this guy, who has very conveniently illustrated that all adulterers are, of course, potential child-killers too. What a nice easy big stick to beat men with.

As if the poor guy and his family (whose complex situation we know nothing about beyond what the tabloids choose to tell us) haven't suffered enough.

I don't understand some of the posters on this thread who say 'its put a different slant on it for me' because he was separated from his wife.

Surely, to us strangers discussing this on a forum, it shouldn't matter if he was kissing someone he morally should or shouldn't have been?

That doesn't change the facts of what happened. I can understand the debate of whether the man was neglectful, foolish or just damm unfortunate but to think this man is more innocent or guilty depending on who he was kissing is madness to me

as has been explained, it's because while in charge of his children he wasn't also betraying his wife. i find it hard to understand why that's hard to understand.