Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

News

really not sure what to think of this, I mean will the baby live?

191 replies

Saint2shoes · 12/01/2009 18:09

here

OP posts:
RubyRioja · 12/01/2009 18:27

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

themildmanneredjanitor · 12/01/2009 18:27

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

RubyRioja · 12/01/2009 18:28

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

FattipuffsandThinnifers · 12/01/2009 18:28

I feel very sorry for this couple being in this situation and have no idea what I'd do myself, but these topics always make me sigh. IMO you're either basically pro-choice or anti-abortion.

If one is pro-choice then what gives one the right to judge someone on their reasons for abortion. Most people abort because they feel unable to cope with the impending child, whether due to disability, financial pressure, being alone, whatever. If you are pro-choice, why is this an opportunity to judge on abortion for one reasons but not another?

If you're anti-abortion (for any circumstance) it's a different matter of course.

themildmanneredjanitor · 12/01/2009 18:29

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

RubyRioja · 12/01/2009 18:29

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

FattipuffsandThinnifers · 12/01/2009 18:30

Didn't make sense did I - meant "judge an abortion for one reason but not another"

Clarissimo · 12/01/2009 18:30

This si one I'm not certain in, I cold easily understand why a Mum would choose not to ontinue with this pregnancy, more than most others.

I guess my outcome of choice for myself would be to have the babies but if they needed substantial treatment I might refuse it in favour o fholding in the time we had together.

RubyRioja · 12/01/2009 18:31

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

themildmanneredjanitor · 12/01/2009 18:32

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Northernlurker · 12/01/2009 18:32

In the majority of cases that you read about of fetal abnormality or siamese twins I have always felt that I would prefer to let nature take it's course and to work with the medical profession for the best outcome in terms of intervention and pain relief. In this case - if there is really only one body and one set of organs then a happy, even a bearable outcome seems impossible and I think I would contemplate termination. I would certainly be influenced in that by the effect on the children I already have. However - this poor lady doesn't have older children to consider. I also wonder if they are hoping later scans will show a better prognosis - the piece says she only became pregnant in December.

Clarissimo · 12/01/2009 18:33

'IMO you're either basically pro-choice or anti-abortion. '

Thats not truw; I am generally inclined towards other options whilst bearing in mind that sometimes situations are so extreme- rape, very young girls, risk to maternal health (inc. mental) for example- that a termination though sad is probably the right choice.

There's shades of grey in everything.

RubyRioja · 12/01/2009 18:35

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OneLieIn · 12/01/2009 18:35

I wonder what the risks are to her, the mum? It is all about the babies and not about her. Not just physical but psychological.

Personally, if I found myself in that situation, I think it would be incredibly difficult to make any decision and no decision is a decision in itself IYSWIM.

I really object to the way LIFE are quoted in the article, I don't know why.

OneLieIn · 12/01/2009 18:36

but what if nature taking its course meant her losing her own life or being severely physically or pyschologically scarred?

ForeverOptimistic · 12/01/2009 18:37

What an awful situation to be in.

I honestly don't know what I would do.

unfitmother · 12/01/2009 18:38

If she was "a loving parent" she would kill her child. WTF??
Wow - I would not rush to judge someone who terminated a pregnancy in such circumstances but cannot believe she is being judged as "selfish" for not doing so.

Northernlurker · 12/01/2009 18:38

Clarissimo - I think that actually makes you pro-choice - and your position is one I would share. Pro-choice does not mean push-abortion-as-the-best-option - though sometimes anti-abortion campaigners like to portray the pro-choice movement as such. For me terminating a pregnancy is a lousy choice to have to make whatever your circumstances. I think the least I can do for women in that situation is respect their right to make that choice by ensuring they have a legal and safe way in which to do so. That's why I'm pro-choice.

edam · 12/01/2009 18:38

Good grief. Poor woman. I doubt there's going to be happy outcome whatever she decides.

edam · 12/01/2009 18:38

Good grief. Poor woman. I doubt there's going to be happy outcome whatever she decides.

RubyRioja · 12/01/2009 18:38

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

unfitmother · 12/01/2009 18:40

No, it's not, both lives are sacred.

Clarissimo · 12/01/2009 18:41

I think you are right NL- but I am sadly pro-choice iyswim; I ahte it that sometimes its best and think those occasions are rarer but exist. Mum ahd a trmination before me after rubella made her baby too disabled to survive birth- how could I criticise a choice made by a lady who'd already lost 4 babies to stillbirth then been confronted with a relaity like that( after she went on to haev 3 of us straight off)

FattipuffsandThinnifers · 12/01/2009 18:42

Clarissimo, of course, I take your point.

What I meant really is that if one is essentially pro-choice you can see why some people might choose to terminate a pg which they feel unable to cope with (even if you youself would continue with the pg), regardless of the reasons. I mean, I might feel able to cope with a child with some form of SN, but I am essentially pro-choice, so would try not to make a judgement on someone (not saying you were btw) who felt unable to, and terminated.

themildmanneredjanitor · 12/01/2009 18:42

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Swipe left for the next trending thread